cptwafflepants
There have been confirmed reports of CTD with XC3 Ultra, I had an order for this card on Amazon but I just canceled it this morning. At this point, there's so much going wrong with this launch that has turned me off on adopting early. I decided to wait to see what the 3070 and Big Navi have to offer and let the partners figure it out and fix their issues before buying. Hoping that I can get an upgrade before Cyberpunk 2077, but if not, at least I'll appreciate the upgrade more when I do!

USALion
So every 3080 EVGA offering is safe? XC3 and FTW3, both regular and ultra?

drewballz
There is so much mis information in this thread.

First please watch this actual hardcore overclocking video that explains a ton more about this potential issue.

Here are some other points:
1) POSCAP is a specific model of capacitor made by Panasonic so calling all SMD polymers as so is like calling all soda Coke, it’s incorrect.
2) MLCCs are not just universally good as well. Just like all capacitors they have several models that have different spec etc, so you can’t just say small is good and big is bad
3) power delivery is more than 1 component, you need to investigate the entire pcb to actually say if it’s good or not

MLCCs and SMD polymers each have different specs different things they are good at etc, the best you can do is mix and match to fit your board, which is what I believe EVGA has done.

Avolate
They made a change to the Cap Array based on a theory that Igor's Labs came up with just by looking at PCB blueprints.   He is just guessing at the problem.    So the cards still need to be tested before we know they are good with this change.   
 

GTXJackBauer

Frammish
 
Also, graphics cards crash if you clock them too high. It’s just how it goes. All boards will fail at some level of overclock.

+1  Many people who don't get the OCs they want or passed the advertised speeds will think their GPU is an issue. 

As it stands, there are no issues with the GPUs and each one will OC differently from one another aka silicon lottery.

Frammish
I don’t know that answer. Nothing I’ve said about this capacitor issue precludes other issues on any manufacture’s boards, even EVGA’s. It could also be that the capacitor thing is only a band aid and that a true and proper fix requires a more involved change that manufacturers simply choose to treat as a defect.
 
I speak from experience. Sometimes you can make changes that totally resolve an issue and sometimes it’s a more fundamental problem.
 
Thing is, since EVGA says all their retail cards are proper, any other manufacturer’s cards failing clocks due to the capacitor issue is irrelevant. EVGA cards failing clocks would likely be some other issue. I can’t say for certain and am just taking them at their word. But EVGA guarantees these cards will hit and hold advertised clocks.
 
As these IC features get smaller, voltages get more critical. There is less margin for increasing or decreasing voltage. The 4 bit bits used on the memory bus are even more critical on voltages as they slice the logic voltage into 4 sublevels. We are probably going to have to rely more on the silicon lottery in the future than on our own ability to tweak voltages to get the highest clocks.
 
And users reporting issues only hints there could be a problem. It doesn’t mean there is one. So many are trying to run 3000 series cards on below-recommended rating power supplies and/or putting Y adapters on a single video power cable it’s not funny. The closer you get to a power supply's maximum rating, the more ripple and noise will be on the bus for mobo and video. That noise contributes big time to system overclockability or lack thereof. Until we see anecdotal evidence of crashing that excludes power and other issues, it’s hard to trust it.
 
What I do know is EVGA stands behind their stuff. I got a free step up over the thermal pad issue on the 10 series, and even a great deal on an EVGA power supply thrown in as a bonus. If you get an EVGA card that can’t hit its advertised clocks, they will make it right.
 
Actually, with how I was treated over that thermal pad issue, I’d be happy to get a slightly gimpy 3090 FTW3 Ultra because I know I’d at least get a great one in return and who knows what else. But I doubt that will happen.
 
On the other hand, I want a 3090 FTW3 Ultra. I need to stop posting so the rumor mill can give me the chance to get an order completed. 😁

roccale

R3L3NTL3SS
Am I the only one who's perfectly happy with EVGA's confidence and just wants to finally buy a 3080 FTW3?

Axejess

VBalls

TeslaDev
Still find it odd they used 220uF instead of 470uF, or 2 of each like the FE, for the SP Caps.  Unless the FE used 22uF on the MLCCs and EVGA is using 47uF...would have equal capacitance...but this is the FTW3...would expect better.  Strix looks to be rolling with 47uF for all 60 MLCCs per Buildzoid...giving more capacity with a better component.

 
This ^. Why is eVga using lower spec caps in a FTW board? Yeah they have a 4+2 setup, but I would have felt better if they were higher performance.

Hmm lets see if they can answer this pretty. I find it a interesting question if it matters at all though but still I would like to hear that as well :)
 
Fe has 2 470+220. Ftw 3 seems 4x220 xc3 5x220 but maybe all the smaller ones are bigger on the ftw compared to the fe so if you count them together does it matter at all? There are a whole laods and loads of smaller ones as well behind the gpu just check the pcture. And I do mean loads and loads of them.
And if it has not samish capacitance does it mater at all in real world usage? I am not a capacitance/capicitaor expert at all and I guess most of us aren't :)
 
If you check the forum people seems to have no issues whatssoever using them and oc ect.
 
For people that wanna know what we talk about see this pic
right fe with 2x220+2x470
left ftw3 4x 220

 

R3L3NTL3SS
Am I the only one who's perfectly happy with EVGA's confidence and just wants to finally buy a 3080 FTW3?

Nah I am quite happy with there recent statement and overall service but people can/may have questions right. That's where this forum is for. I just wanna learn sins I don't really understand the statements from buildzoid regarding higher cap number that''s why I am asking ;)


Still have my pre order open no worries :)