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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/27 17:48:27 (permalink)
Glad that EVGA had the foresight to make the changes needed. Will support by buying a FTW3 3080 or 2090 ;)


 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 00:30:56 (permalink)
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Why would they need to report anything?  Its fixed on the production units.  Im sure they ran into other issues that where fixed prior to production do you expect EVGA to tells us each of those??  Love EVGA first class all the way. 


 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 01:01:00 (permalink)
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 01:33:56 (permalink)
tayback longlegFor real. Hysterics all around with this 30 series launch, good lord.

 
 
i noticed that people crying the most are those who are too poor to buy the card in the first place. i came across a bunch of these people on an unmoderated "tech" website i'd rather not name (they don't deserve the exposure). i have a 3090, i'm not worried. 3 year manufacturer warranty + 1 year amex warranty. i also wasn't worried about the 2080ti failures. i got an EVGA 2080ti on release day. despite the same morons foaming at the mouth and screaming that the sky is falling, i never had a single issue after nearly 2 years of use. 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 01:51:18 (permalink)
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Does the 6 MLCC design mean more quality and block crashing?

I won't answer that. Some say all is better some say 2 in the middle is better. Here is a video Buildzoid did for Gamers Nexus of the breakdown FE and what he thinks. A very smart dude.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THMukcOzB8g




One thing I also noticed is the FE and ASUS use all surface mount VRM caps, while the FTW3 uses a bunch of thru-hole caps. That includes the 3090 FTW3, which seems a bit odd for a $1800 card.  Meh.


? i  also see see thru-hole thingies way right on the oc strix 3090. (don't think there caps? but still thru-hole)
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-3090-strix-oc/images/front.jpg
 
The fe kinda HAD to use everything surface mount sins err they don't really have the space for thru-hole.
The FE seems to have a lot of stuff on the backside compared to normal as well.
I guess both have there cons and pro's like with everything
post edited by Axejess - 2020/09/28 01:57:32


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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 02:27:25 (permalink)
Hardware Unboxed have issues on FE and ASUS TUF editions which do have proper capacitors. So the issue seems to be related not only with the capacitors.
 

 
Any comment on this?
 
 

 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 02:38:00 (permalink)
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Hardware Unboxed have issues on FE and ASUS TUF editions which do have proper capacitors. So the issue seems to be related not only with the capacitors.
 

 
Any comment on this?
 
 


Sounds like a driver issue in my personal opinion. 

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 03:55:33 (permalink)
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Hi all,
 
Recently there has been some discussion about the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 series.
 
During our mass production QC testing we discovered a full 6 POSCAPs solution cannot pass the real world applications testing. It took almost a week of R&D effort to find the cause and reduce the POSCAPs to 4 and add 20 MLCC caps prior to shipping production boards, this is why the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 series was delayed at launch. There were no 6 POSCAP production EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 boards shipped.
 
But, due to the time crunch, some of the reviewers were sent a pre-production version with 6 POSCAP’s, we are working with those reviewers directly to replace their boards with production versions.
EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 series with 5 POSCAPs + 10 MLCC solution is matched with the XC3 spec without issues.
 
Also note that we have updated the product pictures at EVGA.com to reflect the production components that shipped to gamers and enthusiasts since day 1 of product launch.
Once you receive the card you can compare for yourself, EVGA stands behind its products!
 
Thanks
EVGA

 

 





Well, THIS is huge! Thank You Jacob for that clear and concise explanation!
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 06:40:59 (permalink)
Can’t wait to see how this shakes out
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 08:51:10 (permalink)
Looks AIB's are now changing their PCB's to match that 2+4 configuration as seen on Founders Edition.
 
Rush launch just to get solid market share. Set too high and way too aggressive boost clocks, send some cherrypicked samples to reviewers, so they can show some high numbers. Start the mass production with issues and then downgrade clocks/boost via new drivers, PCB changes or/and BIOS updates, that will cripple the benchmarks after all the reviews have already been made.
 
Looks like a perfect launch to me
 
post edited by YURIIII - 2020/09/28 09:00:28
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 10:14:30 (permalink)
Awesome



 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 10:37:27 (permalink)
I had a chance to get the Asus and Gigabyte cards but I chose to wait for the 3080 FTW3. Hope I can get my hand on one soon.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 13:53:00 (permalink)
I wonder if some of the other partners were aware of the capacitor issue and chose to ship at launch anyway?

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 14:30:17 (permalink)
I hope that we can still expect a ramp up in production for October / November.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 15:08:17 (permalink)
It's too bad EVGA doesn't make AMD video cards. I wouldn't hesitate getting a Big Navi made by EVGA (if the leaks are as good as they say.)
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 15:17:30 (permalink)
solomonshvi noticed that people crying the most are those who are too poor to buy the card in the first place.

I don't think a more elitist, douche-bag thing has ever been said.

You sound like a wonderful human being.




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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 16:47:11 (permalink)
Just so happens I have always bought EVGA and have never ever had 1 quit on me going back to 9800's thats why I buy EVGA and I'm not a fanboy I go with what works at reasonable price for what it is. Nvidia is insane with $1500 3090 wouldn't buy it even if I had $1500. But if someone has $1500 to blow on it sure why not it's your money.

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 16:52:31 (permalink)
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It's too bad EVGA doesn't make AMD video cards. I wouldn't hesitate getting a Big Navi made by EVGA (if the leaks are as good as they say.)


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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 18:53:14 (permalink)
Thanks for the update! 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 19:03:54 (permalink)
Thanks for the info! Hope to get one of these cards soon. :D
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 19:52:30 (permalink)
The whole caps thing is being blown way out of proportion, acting as if it is the sole cause of the crashes. 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 20:23:01 (permalink)
It seems like the latest Nvidia drivers addressed this issue? Unfortunately they did it in a way that may have affected people who were not experiencing the issue at all. Not a terrible thing if the cards were simply boosting too high but certain bad for optics on Nvidia's end lol.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 20:52:19 (permalink)
The fact that Jacob is so active in answering questions is literally awesome no other company is doing anything close to this level of customer outreach
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 21:07:43 (permalink)
The crashes are more frequency based then caps based. At least from what I’ve been reading Up on seems when they are pushed close to 2k or beyond is when the crashes start. Guessing the 8nm Samsung is already at its limits in base form. 
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/28 21:12:15 (permalink)
^^^ Especially since they are already pushed to 300+ watts out of the box shows that they are just about at their limits for the most part. And overclocking gives a nice 3% bump in performance
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/29 01:03:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Sajin 2020/09/29 07:21:40

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/29 04:46:03 (permalink)
Nice video.. basically put that crap to bed.

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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/29 05:04:40 (permalink)
Interesting video. Still, going from +70 to +100 is substantial for such a minor change in hardware, that was somewhere within 50-100Mhz of additional stability. THG got +115 with the all-MLCC ASUS 3080 TUF card. Instead of paying for a factory OC, paying for extra MLCC caps would appear to have some value...


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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/29 07:46:55 (permalink)
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U guys knew about this issue weeks, if not months ago...and you are all coming out of the closet now...ONLY BECAUSE OF INDEPENDENT REPORTING. This is not how u build trust...


I heard NVidia didn’t give its partners very much time to test The cards. so I would be more thankful a few manufactures tested and probably discovered such a thing would happen. Means odds are the ones that have the issue the manufacture didn’t test them or didn’t do very good testing.
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Re: Message about EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 POSCAPs 2020/09/29 08:26:53 (permalink)
I bought a 3080 xc3 gaming and i saw several teates with 5 pops and 10 mlcc not working... why evga keep this project? Why they do not only did like asus did? To change all to high quality ones? We trust in evga, and we buy this brand because has the most quality itens on market. Please, at the minimum, do the same as you did for the ftw3... use the samw project as the founders edition woth 20 mlcc.
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