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2019/06/06 15:26:48 (permalink)
Hey people. I got the Kingpin Hydro Copper on Monday and installed it yesterday in a new loop. My issue is that I am getting temps higher on the Hydro copper than I was with the Hybrid card. I was wondering if anyone else was having this issue. I already took the card apart and reapplied thermal paste. I got my temps from 53C to 48C, but that is still much higher than the 39 to 44 I was seeing with the hybrid. I have a 360 slim and 420 slim set up. 

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 15:33:53 (permalink)
    That doesn’t seem right. Is the block seated well? I assume so since you did a repaste to check.

    What kind of fans do you have on the rads vs. what was on the KPE rad? Any difference in fan speed at all? Any change in your ambient temp? Using the same case? And is it a single loop including the CPU? What CPU if so?
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 15:35:30 (permalink)
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    That doesn’t seem right. Is the block seated well? I assume so since you did a repaste to check.

    What kind of fans do you have on the rads vs. what was on the KPE rad? Any difference in speed at all? And is it a single loop including the CPU? What CPU if so?

    Thanks for replying so quick! I am using one loop and it has a 7700k in it that isnt OC. I am using the same fans. Corsair ml120 Pros on the 360 Rad and 140 pros for the 420 both is push pull. I was using 4 of my 120s on the 240 AiO. 
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 15:38:22 (permalink)
    What pump? Looks like a full loop with both CPU and GPU.

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 15:43:54 (permalink)
    Its the EK D5 acrylic pump. I used this for my 1080 ti W/ 7700k and my 2080ti XC2 Ultra and only got 43C with less fans and 39C when all fans at 100%. This thing without an OC is hitting 53C with ecrything at 100% Here is a link to the pump. It is also at 100% https://www.microcenter.com/product/488084/ek-xres-140-revo-d5-pwm-water-cooling-pump-and-reservoir
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 15:45:42 (permalink)
    Well looks obvious.. remove the block and check the contact. No way the aio should be colder then the new setup.

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 15:48:44 (permalink)
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    Well looks obvious.. remove the block and check the contact. No way the aio should be colder then the new setup.

    I already did that. I re-pasted and the temps seemed to have gone down a few degrees. I followed the Guide that they have that comes with it as well and I don't really see what I could have done wrong. This isn't my first video card block, Just my first hydro copper.  It seems to be making contact. I was wondering if it was where I have the fluid entering the card. I have it coming in through the right side bottom and coming out of the left side top. See picture above for complete clarification. 
     
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 15:50:52 (permalink)
    The ftw3 2080ti copper block that's the same stated they it dont matter which side is in..flow would be the same.

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 15:52:01 (permalink)
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    The ftw3 2080ti copper block that's the same stated they it dont matter which side is in..flow would be the same.

    Darn was really hoping it would be something like that. I guess Ill take it apart again. Not that I don't think I can make a mistake but I don't see how when I'm just applying the block. 
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 16:22:04 (permalink)
    Did you get all the air bubbles out of the block
     
    What did the contact pattern look like - when you reapplied the TIM ?
     
    Did your thermal pads show proper contact ?

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 16:23:13 (permalink)
    What are your Coolant Temperatures?
    What is the Flow Rate for the Coolant?
    You are dumping the Heat off of the CPU into the GPU. What is your CPU Temperature?
    I see No Real Flow/Turbulence with the Coolant.
    Nice Card by the way.
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 16:47:32 (permalink)
    They’ve stated that flow is the same regardless of the inlet/outlet config? To my eyes it seems like it would be different but what do I know?
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 16:57:58 (permalink)
    For the most part, as long as they are on each side.

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 17:03:58 (permalink)
    Now that I see the photo, that bcav reposted

    Loop looks like the pump to the GPU block to the CPU mono-block (?)

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 17:08:06 (permalink)
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    What are your Coolant Temperatures?
    What is the Flow Rate for the Coolant?
    You are dumping the Heat off of the CPU into the GPU. What is your CPU Temperature?
    I see No Real Flow/Turbulence with the Coolant.
    Nice Card by the way.
    Thanks! Coolant is at 27°c going into cpu and exiting. Flow rate is 12 L/M. Cpu with a 4.8 OC is reaching 60° Max in Cinebench and only goes up from 30-32° idle to 38-42° with heaven running @1440p.
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 17:27:08 (permalink)
    Wow! 12 LPM, that is really Super Duper.
    Got it: Flow Rate 1,500 Liter/Hour (396 Gallons/Hour)
    https://www.microcenter.com/product/488084/ek-xres-140-revo-d5-pwm-water-cooling-pump-and-reservoir
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 17:32:19 (permalink)
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    Wow! 12 LPM, that is really Super Duper.
    That's what the fluid speed readout on my mono block says. I'm going to assume its correct. 720 L/H is about in line with the spec.
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 18:29:53 (permalink)
    Mine shows about 5 celcius lower temps at idle with the hydro copper installed now. I'll get started on some benching in the morning probably.

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 18:42:43 (permalink)
    Here are the spread patterns. I'm re fitting the card again.

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 18:43:59 (permalink)
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    Mine shows about 5 celcius lower temps at idle with the hydro copper installed now. I'll get started on some benching in the morning probably.




    Interested to see the results. 
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 18:51:43 (permalink)
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    Here are the spread patterns. I'm re fitting the card again.

    What TIM is that?
    Looks Like a Brain

     
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 19:01:33 (permalink)
    Thats the worst TIM pattern i have ever seen, i don't think i have ever seen TIM look like that before.

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 19:07:24 (permalink)
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    Thats the worst TIM pattern i have ever seen, i don't think i have ever seen TIM look like that before.
    That's after I pull if of straight up. But its Thermal grizzly Hydronaught. Never had an issue with it before.
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 19:10:51 (permalink)
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    Thats the worst TIM pattern i have ever seen, i don't think i have ever seen TIM look like that before.
    That's after I pull if of straight up. But its Thermal grizzly Hydronaught. Never had an issue with it before.



    Thats just not right, is it an old tube or something? That just shouldn't look like that.

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 19:23:43 (permalink)
    https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/products/14-hydronaut-en
    http://www.thermal-grizzly.com/images/downloads/TG-Datasheet-Hydronaut-EN.pdf
    Colour light grey
    Video shows light grey as well not that dark grey on your HC Block


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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 19:30:15 (permalink)
    Its not the color its the pattern of it, it just shouldn't be all cracked like that i wouldn't think.

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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 19:47:36 (permalink)
    I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that but man, after seeing pics of the blocks installed in systems I gotta say I think the OLED screen looks like crap on the HC. Doesn't help that it's crooked in the example in this thread! I am surprised because I thought with just the naked pics of the block that it looked nice.
     
    Wish they made it more modular so you could completely remove the screen... then maybe it'd be worth the $350. Or give us a block without OLED and with OLED; options are always nice. It's funny when you're on the waterblock page and you see $179, $179, $199, $199 and then BLAMMO $349!
     
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 19:54:14 (permalink)
    A Remote OLED would have been Cool.


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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 20:17:24 (permalink)
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    A Remote OLED would have been Cool.


    I still think we should have the option to use the OLED from the Hybrid in a fashion like you mention. Isn’t there two output headers on the PCB? I could be totally wrong as I’m half asleep right now. :)

    On topic, I agree with the others. I have been using Hydronaut and Kryonaut for a long time now and have never seen a spread pattern like that. Out of curiosity, what method of application do you use when applying your TIM? I have always used the thin, full coverage application as suggested on the packaging from Thermal Grizzly and have never had an issue.
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    Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/06 20:56:58 (permalink)
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    Here are the spread patterns. I'm re fitting the card again.


    Ouch.. looks like a horror flick

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