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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/07 17:22:45 (permalink)
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The flat side does not go towards the block, the flat side has the black coating and goes towards the pcb to prevent short circuit and then the little black sticky washers go between the pcb and the screw head.


No Issues here.
The GPU Bracket is for PCB Strength as it sits lower on the PCB then the GPU Die and Bracket that is already on the PCB. 

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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/07 17:24:58 (permalink)
So far my Max Temp is on RAM1 42°C GPU 1 29°C GPU 2 32°C GPU PCB 38°C

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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/07 18:16:41 (permalink)
Thinking about some having Higher Temperatures then when the Hybrid Cooler was installed...
Did anyone remove the Back Plate from the PCB when they installed the Hydro Copper Water Block?
I did not remove mine....

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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/07 18:19:04 (permalink)
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The flat side does not go towards the block, the flat side has the black coating and goes towards the pcb to prevent short circuit and then the little black sticky washers go between the pcb and the screw head.


Well, EVGA support told me that the flat side goes towards the block and the insulation was supposed to be applied on the side with the protuberances
If they say something I assume is correct!



You need to read your directions better step #13. People did the same mistake with earlier hydro coppers and short circuited gpu's. The bracket is to prevent to much pressure on the die with pressure, when installed properly it will not stick up and prevent the block from contacting the gpu die.


The manual you’re referring to is for the KP block. I know this is a KP thread, but the issue is the same I had.
My card is a FTW3 and the HC manual is not as clear as the KP HC.
I did installed it properly, but the GPU is not stable.
EVGA support got back to me today, hopefully they’ll fix it.

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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/07 18:28:00 (permalink)
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So far my Max Temp is on RAM1 42°C GPU 1 29°C GPU 2 32°C GPU PCB 38°C


That’s under load? Wow. What’s your setup again to refresh my memory?

Also - how did you keep the backplate on?
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/07 18:42:02 (permalink)
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So far my Max Temp is on RAM1 42°C GPU 1 29°C GPU 2 32°C GPU PCB 38°C


That’s under load? Wow. What’s your setup again to refresh my memory?

Also - how did you keep the backplate on?

It stayed on its own, I did not lift if off the PCB.
Same as the FTW3/XC Graphics Cards, why some remove it I am not sure as the Directions tell you that you do not need to.
See EVGA RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N + HC Waterblock + Water/Chiller/Sub Zero Cooling Club for this setup.
 
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/07 19:08:13 (permalink)
Highest temp is 47°C on CPU core after TSE. This is with oc and reaching 2115 on the core. Its worse than the hybrid cooler but only 3° more than my 2080 ti XC2 Ultra when I had that in the system. THat did not have the monoblock in the loop.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/07 19:10:06 (permalink)
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Highest temp is 47°C on CPU core after TSE. This is with oc and reaching 2115 on the core. Its worse than the hybrid cooler but only 3° more than my 2080 ti XC2 Ultra when I had that in the system. THat did not have the monoblock in the loop.

Nice, I can never get my CPU that low when benchmarking.

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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/07 19:35:43 (permalink)
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Highest temp is 47°C on CPU core after TSE. This is with oc and reaching 2115 on the core. Its worse than the hybrid cooler but only 3° more than my 2080 ti XC2 Ultra when I had that in the system. THat did not have the monoblock in the loop.

Nice, I can never get my CPU that low when benchmarking.


Oof Supposed to say gpu core... 
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/07 19:40:35 (permalink)
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Highest temp is 47°C on CPU GPU core after TSE. This is with oc and reaching 2115 on the core. Its worse than the hybrid cooler but only 3° more than my 2080 ti XC2 Ultra when I had that in the system. THat did not have the monoblock in the loop.

Nice, I can never get my CPU that low when benchmarking.

Oof Supposed to say gpu core... 

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Even Better keeping the GPU Below 50°C.
What is your GPU PCB Temperature? 

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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/22 14:34:03 (permalink)
I am now seeing the GPU PCB Temperatures running closer to MEM1 @ 42°C and 44°C @ 99% Load pushing 330 Watts non-stop for the last Few days.
Or Since 19 June 2019 so going on 4 Days Now.
Maybe the KPE Hydro Copper Water Block just need a little longer Break-In Time. GPU1 39°C & GPU2 40°C Coolant @ 26°C Flow 3.7 LPM Room 21°C
3.7 LPM Flow is from the Out on the GPU so I guess I could test the Flow going into the GPU to see the Difference if any. The Flow is the Same.
It is not about how high or low but how close they are together now as before the GPU PCB Temp was 40°C and MEM1 was 50°C or so.
Using a Standard Custom Water Loop.
$84.99 Radiator, 3x120mm Fans, 54mm Thick, 30-FPI Copper  Part No.  HX-360XC and Basic D5 Pump
Running in Push/Pull  $10.24 Fan, 120x38mm, 116CFM  


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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 10:52:18 (permalink)
I'm going with 2x ek dual d5 serial pumps. Lol

That high restrictive KP block can suck on that.

Order placed.. so another $600 down the tubes.

One of these days I can finally say I'm done with the build. :/

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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 10:58:10 (permalink)
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I'm going with 2x ek dual d5 serial pumps. Lol

That high restrictive KP block can suck on that.

Order placed.. so another $600 down the tubes.

One of these days I can finally say I'm done with the build. :/



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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:05:08 (permalink)
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I'm going with 2x ek dual d5 serial pumps. Lol

That high restrictive KP block can suck on that.

Order placed.. so another $600 down the tubes.

One of these days I can finally say I'm done with the build. :/

Im just trying to figure out why everyone seems to say this block is restrictive, i have absolutely no flow issues. If you have restrictions, wouldn't it be better to do DDC pumps with a higher pressure to get it threw the restrictive area?

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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:08:27 (permalink)
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That high restrictive KP block can suck on that.

3.7 LPM Going In or Going Out or is Coming Out. The Flow is the Same. Zero Restriction.
Or I could same Going in the Out is the same as Going in the In or is Out now?
Fun Tools.
A Flow Meter and Coolant Temperature Sensor.
Most members say there is a Flow Issue and are not even using a Flow Meter to really Know.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:22:58 (permalink)
What TIM is everyone running on their blocks?

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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:24:41 (permalink)
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What TIM is everyone running on their blocks?

TF8 ATM but going to change over to TFX

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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:30:08 (permalink)
Ended up putting my 9900k on an AiO and soft tubing the Hydro copper block with a new pump. My temps are still gettting up to 48C on the gpu in Superposition 8k. I am using an Ek 360 with Corsair 120 pros in push pull and an EK d5 pump/res. I dont understand how a 240 slim AiO is out performing a Hydro copper. 
 
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:39:11 (permalink)
On another note the RMA block they sent me wont let me screw in fittings so that's nice.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:39:16 (permalink)
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On another note the RMA block they sent me wont let me screw in fittings so that's nice.

Then you are not putting it in correctly.
 
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Ended up putting my 9900k on an AiO and soft tubing the Hydro copper block with a new pump. My temps are still gettting up to 48C on the gpu in Superposition 8k. I am using an Ek 360 with Corsair 120 pros in push pull and an EK d5 pump/res. I dont understand how a 240 slim AiO is out performing a Hydro copper. 

And What TIM are you using?
What Model EK 360? 
120mm Series Radiators
 
CoolStream XE series
CoolStream PE series
CoolStream SE series
 
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:42:30 (permalink)
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On another note the RMA block they sent me wont let me screw in fittings so that's nice.

Then you are not putting it in correctly.
 
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Ended up putting my 9900k on an AiO and soft tubing the Hydro copper block with a new pump. My temps are still gettting up to 48C on the gpu in Superposition 8k. I am using an Ek 360 with Corsair 120 pros in push pull and an EK d5 pump/res. I dont understand how a 240 slim AiO is out performing a Hydro copper. 

And What TIM are you using?
 
 
The rma block literally wont let me screw in the fittings all the way. My old block will this new one wont. Nothing to do with how I put them in. They just cant screw down.
I am using NF-T2 as some people on here suggested.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:47:05 (permalink)
"fittings all the way" how long are your Threads?
Not the same as "wont let me screw in fittings"
https://noctua.at/en/nt-h2-3-5g/specification ? Wonder what the

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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:47:38 (permalink)
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https://noctua.at/en/nt-h2-3-5g/specification ? Wonder what the
NT-H2. My bad
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:48:39 (permalink)
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"fittings all the way" how long are your Threads?
https://noctua.at/en/nt-h2-3-5g/specification ? Wonder what the
Normal fittings. They worked on the original block. This new block just wont let me thread them all the way down. I tested it and it leaks. Having to do an RMA on an RMA
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:49:54 (permalink)
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"fittings all the way" how long are your Threads?
Not the same as "wont let me screw in fittings"
https://noctua.at/en/nt-h2-3-5g/specification ? Wonder what the W/m.k is?
Normal fittings. They worked on the original block. This new block just wont let me thread them all the way down. I tested it and it leaks. Having to do an RMA on an RMA

Photos would help, but if it is leaking then you are not using the correct fittings.
Use different Fittings before you RMA needlessly.
 
https://www.unboxingtreatment.com/2019/04/unboxing-review-noctua-nt-h2-thermal-compound.html
I do not think I would have used this TIM even in the Carts they are comparing to MX-2 and OLD TIM
Not if showing what the W/m.k
TF8 is 13.8 W/m.k and TFX is 14.3 W / m.k  Even MX-4 8.5 W/(mK) All are 8 Year TIM and NT-H2 is only 5 Year.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 11:55:52 (permalink)
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"fittings all the way" how long are your Threads?
Not the same as "wont let me screw in fittings"
https://noctua.at/en/nt-h2-3-5g/specification ? Wonder what the
Normal fittings. They worked on the original block. This new block just wont let me thread them all the way down. I tested it and it leaks. Having to do an RMA on an RMA

Photos would help, but if it is leaking then you are not using the correct fittings.
Use different Fittings before you RMA needlessly.
Dude, they are the same fitting for my original KP Hydro copper. This is the RMA. Why would they switch fitting sizes in between Replacement and original? They start to thread in then get halfway down and stop. I dont know why this seems hard to understand. I'm really wondering why the GPU temps are worse on a hydro copper then the Hybrid.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 12:03:28 (permalink)
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"fittings all the way" how long are your Threads?
Not the same as "wont let me screw in fittings"
https://noctua.at/en/nt-h2-3-5g/specification ? Wonder what the W/m.k is?
Normal fittings. They worked on the original block. This new block just wont let me thread them all the way down. I tested it and it leaks. Having to do an RMA on an RMA

Photos would help, but if it is leaking then you are not using the correct fittings.
Use different Fittings before you RMA needlessly.
 
https://www.unboxingtreatment.com/2019/04/unboxing-review-noctua-nt-h2-thermal-compound.html
I do not think I would have used this TIM even in the Carts they are comparing to MX-2 and OLD TIM
Not if showing what the W/m.k
TF8 is 13.8 W/m.k and TFX is 14.3 W / m.k  Even MX-4 8.5 W/(mK) All are 8 Year TIM and NT-H2 is only 5 Year.
Dude, they are the same fitting for my original KP Hydro copper. This is the RMA. Why would they switch fitting sizes in between Replacement and original? They start to thread in then get halfway down and stop. I dont know why this seems hard to understand. I'm really wondering why the GPU temps are worse on a hydro copper then the Hybrid.

All the Ports are this way?
The Thread Size is a Standard and EVGA has not changed them. 
You GPU Temperature could be because you are using NT-H2.
Most members here recommend MX-4 as I have in the past, Now I am using TF8 and TFX.
 
On a Side Note this is the only Post on the Forums that I see the use of NT-H2.
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I would not purchase Thermal Grizzly, I find that its extremely thick and very hard to apply correctly. Noctua especially the new formula (NT-H2) is very easy to apply...  

Ease of use has nothing to do with Performance
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 12:27:36 (permalink)
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"fittings all the way" how long are your Threads?
Not the same as "wont let me screw in fittings"
https://noctua.at/en/nt-h2-3-5g/specification ? Wonder what the W/m.k is?
Normal fittings. They worked on the original block. This new block just wont let me thread them all the way down. I tested it and it leaks. Having to do an RMA on an RMA

Photos would help, but if it is leaking then you are not using the correct fittings.
Use different Fittings before you RMA needlessly.

https://www.unboxingtreatment.com/2019/04/unboxing-review-noctua-nt-h2-thermal-compound.html
I do not think I would have used this TIM even in the Carts they are comparing to MX-2 and OLD TIM
Not if showing what the W/m.k
TF8 is 13.8 W/m.k and TFX is 14.3 W / m.k  Even MX-4 8.5 W/(mK) All are 8 Year TIM and NT-H2 is only 5 Year.
Dude, they are the same fitting for my original KP Hydro copper. This is the RMA. Why would they switch fitting sizes in between Replacement and original? They start to thread in then get halfway down and stop. I dont know why this seems hard to understand. I'm really wondering why the GPU temps are worse on a hydro copper then the Hybrid.

All the Ports are this way?
The Thread Size is a Standard and EVGA has not changed them. 
You GPU Temperature could be because you are using NT-H2.
Most members here recommend MX-4 as I have in the past, Now I am using TF8 and TFX.
 
On a Side Note this is the only Post on the Forums that I see the use of NT-H2.
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I would not purchase Thermal Grizzly, I find that its extremely thick and very hard to apply correctly. Noctua especially the new formula (NT-H2) is very easy to apply...  

Ease of use has nothing to do with Performance
You are correct that ease of use has nothing to do with performance. I've used 3 different TIMs and it hasn't helped the temps at all. Thermal Grizzly which quite a few people have said is fine, NT-H2 and the TIM EVGA provided. All yielded the same temps. From what I've seen on the forums I'm not the only one who's had this issue. I'll probably stick the Hybrid cooler back on and call it a day. I've taken this block off 7 times and refitted it with and without the GPU bracket. No change I think this is just a hit and miss with the hydro copper kingpin. First block came broken by the screen like quite a few others and 2nd one has an issue with the threads. Probably going to see if I can get a refund for the block and use the hybrid. Probably wont ever get another hydro copper again. I understand some people have had a good experience with theirs, but that doesnt mean all of the blocks were made up to standards.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 12:28:28 (permalink)
I actually used the TIM that come with the block, at the time the only thing I had was TG Conducto, it seems like all our temps are right around the same as well. I have Kryo on the way, but honestly I don't think Im going to go threw the hassle of changing it.

Mobo: EVGA Z390 Dark
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GPU: EVGA 2080 TI Kingpin w/ Hydro Copper
RAM: Corsair 2x16GB 3200mhz
SSD: Corsair MP510 980GB NVME
PSU: Corsair RM1000i


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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps. 2019/06/23 12:30:07 (permalink)
dhall243
I actually used the TIM that come with the block, at the time the only thing I had was TG Conducto, it seems like all our temps are right around the same as well.
The same as mine? 48°C? If so that's pretty disappointing considering it's a $350+tax waterblock.
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