TRClark911

mack1080

TRClark911

demon09
:X shoot 19c idle that's lower then my ambient.after the hybrid install

Yeah... cool on the beach.  About to delid the CPU.
 

What app is this?

CAM... downloaded it from NZXT for the Kraken x62.

Thanks! Also, great temps :)

TRClark911

mack1080
Thanks! Also, great temps :)

Yeah... it's nice to be running at 100% CPU in the 60's and 70's... instead of mid 80's.  The delid was super easy.
Same for GPU...  low 40's is a whole lot better than mid 80's.
 
Lovin' it!!

Check out how little even a massive increase in physics score translates to 3DMark scores...Ha ha...
 
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12049438/fs/12267548

shadowboricua

TRClark911

GTXJackBauer
You could jack up the clocks for benches only and dial it down for 24/7 daily use and for longevity purposes.  You'll just have to calculate what you feel your sweet spot is in voltage, temps and audibles.

Yep... doing exactly that!  Jacking up to 5+ for benches and 24/7 use at 4.8...  the temps are solid at this speed... I've been encoding videos at 100% load for the last 2 hours and have peaked at 72C.  Doing the same thing at 5ghz puts temps in the 82-86C range.  Pretty big difference.  I was at those temps at 4.8 prior to the delid...  post delid I'm calling it good at 4.8 for 24/7 use.
 
1080 Ti FE hybrid is peaking at 42-43C with a stable +165 +225 OC... and still down almost 50% from the FE blower temps.
 
I'm good.  Nothing else for me to do here.
 

 
 

Hmmm... I get temperatures hovering around the 60s to 72 on 100% load on my 7700k without delidding at 4.9 ghz. At 5.0, it goes up to the low 80s. I guess I won't be delidding.

those are some pretty impressive temps for 4.9ghz non delided cpu. was the 100% load from aida 64 fpu test ? my 7700k was quite the firey beast before my delid. I run my memory on my T.i at +400 much above that will drop my score or cause the green screen colors in overwatch

TRClark911

HeavyHemi

TRClark911

Yeah... it's nice to be running at 100% CPU in the 60's and 70's... instead of mid 80's.  The delid was super easy.
Same for GPU...  low 40's is a whole lot better than mid 80's.
 
Lovin' it!!

Check out how little even a massive increase in physics score translates to 3DMark scores...Ha ha...
 
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12049438/fs/12267548

Wow... nice comparison.  They definitely weigh graphics a lot higher... LOL
 
I notice that memory clock you have... way above mine.  I'm stable at +165 core and crash every time at +175... presumably because I'm going over 2100mhz.   (If I'm wrong please let me know, haven't done OCing since the GeForce 3 64mb was in style)
 
With the memory though I'm good at +225.  Much beyond that (and I've been to +540) drops my score... 1000 points or more.  I think I read somewhere something about errors causing a massive decrease in performance?

Not sure what was going on with the memory clocks as they were on the default and should read 2754mhz for the speed.

GTXJackBauer
I forgot to note, you should try an older version of Prime95 because some of the newer ones tax the heck out of the CPU beyond your average benchmark which is pointless if the rig is stable prior.  Can't recall which version it is but it has something to do with the CPU instructions that are pushed to the extreme and everyone gets high temps no matter what, even to the point of some losing their CPUs over it.

P95v28 uses the AVX instructions which does seriously increase the power draw. Personally I think it's 'cheating' to limit it. The FTWK board by default has the AVX offset set to 3 (on Broadwell-E), meaning the clocks are reduced by 300mhz when using AVX instructions. I based my overclock and thermals on P95v28 and with a zero AVX offset and/or IBT AgentGod version. IOW, worst case.

TRClark911

HeavyHemi
Not sure what was going on with the memory clocks as they were on the default and should read 2754mhz for the speed.

All good... +225 on memory is stable.  Much beyond that drops the score.
 
Anyway I'm pretty much dialed in where I want to be.  I bench at 5ghz and run 24/7 at 4.8ghz... The delid dropped my 4.8 temps about 16C... but a stable 5ghz brings them back up about 10-12C so I don't really see the point.
 
I'm happy at 4.8 with temps in mid 60s and low to mid 70's under 100% CPU... and the hybrid has my GPU in the low 40's at 100% load.
 
Both idle in the low to mid 20's.
 
Good to go.

I just meant that 3DMark can be wonky on reporting clocks on the GPU or CPU. As far as higher memory clocks decreasing scores, that is due to error correction on the memory. You can actually clock the memory high enough to cause memory errors, which do not result in visible artifacts on screen. However, the error correction reduces the memory throughput as it needs to resend the data. So yeah, I'm pretty much waiting on a Hybrid. B&H says "May 2nd" is when they are expecting stock. Meanwhile I check the page here occasionally just to annoy myself I guess.... What a botched launch...especially for the TITAN (P) owners who were misled for months.

I would love to get that hybrid kit, its been sold out for awhile now.  I got the auto notify in my email and instantly sold out.  Sad Panda. 

cloiselle1
Did you try it with normal thermal paste and check temps or did you just go straight to a liquid metal?
 
I've had a few chip on standard tim with no issues ( reapplying once a year though, ) and I'm reading about a lot of guys having issues with something that seems pretty nonsense " pump out. " and pastes supposedly drying up, which in both cases I've never seen on 2 3570k's, a 4770k and a 4790k all with variou standard tim's under the dye, 
 
I ask because I want to go to liquid metal this weekend, and curious if you had a side by side comparison of the temp difference from a standard tim to a lm. 

All I have is comparisons before and after the delid.
 
Doing 100% CPU things like encoding video had me in the low to mid 80's prior to the delid... 70-72C after.  Stress tests with Prime95 pushed me around 90C...  75C after.  I'm in the mid 60's to mid 70's on everything now.  The CPU was originally installed with Thermaltake TG-7 Extreme on the Kraken after removing the stock paste. After the delid I used liquid ultra on the die and Gelid GC Extreme on the Kraken.  I had multiple people on OC websites tell me "use liquid ultra on die, normal thermal paste on heat spreader" so that's what I did.
 
https://rockitcool.myshopify.com/pages/using-the-rockit-88
 
The video on that page is how I did it... the only exception being I used a dab of glue on the underside 4 corners of the heat spreader and then installed it rather than installing it first then dabbing the glue on the corners as seen in video.  To me my way would allow for a better bond and I was right. 
 
Pics are in the PC link in my sig. 
 
I was told the liquid ultra should never need to be reapplied.  Not sure about thermal paste drying up, this is my first build since 2001 so I have limited knowledge about that. Also, I used the same Gelid GC Extreme on the 1080 Ti hybrid cooler after cleaning off the stock paste.  My temps were cut nearly 50%... from the mid 80's at full load (50% fan... 60C at 100% fan which was really loud) to the low 40's. CPU idles around 25C now... GPU around 20C.  Ambient temp is about 66F.
 
 
 

ricchi_
 
have a look here: https://forums.anandtech....ifferent-tims.2285595/

Glad I went with liquid ultra on the die... :)

I'm scared to delid my i7 7700K. I know the benefits is over 20 degrees less and a more silent PC.
not worth the risk of breaking a 350$ CPU IMO.

condemned5
I'm scared to delid my i7 7700K. I know the benefits is over 20 degrees less and a more silent PC.
not worth the risk of breaking a 350$ CPU IMO.

You're right, it's not worth the risk.
 
That's why I bought the idiot proof tool...
 
 

 
It worked exactly as advertised and for $38 was a small price to pay to ensure I didn't break the CPU.
 
I then sold the delid tool to another guy here on the forums and got back most of what I paid...  In the end all it cost me was a few bucks to do it myself.

Good morning TRClark911,
 I have the same exact motherboard as you, and I will be delidding my I7 7700K after seeing your great result. I was wondering if you can post a screenshot of your bios setup for overclocking your processor to 5GHZ. 
 

I also have the same cpu cooler as you, and was wondering if you are plugging the X62 into the motherboard "PUMP_FAN1" or the actual "CPU_FAN1" connector. Also do you leave it in PWM or DC mode, and whether it's on "Smart FAN mode" or manual setting?
 
Thank you.
 

Why is it that EVGA can't provide correct instructions for their own products?  We have to figure it out because we are so smart?  Sorry fellas, but this is a huge fail.  Does Jacob know about this huge shortfall?  The least EVGA could do is post corrected and more complete instructions in the forums.  Just my two cents.

Iluv2raceit
Why is it that EVGA can't provide correct instructions for their own products?  We have to figure it out because we are so smart?  Sorry fellas, but this is a huge fail.  Does Jacob know about this huge shortfall?  The least EVGA could do is post corrected and more complete instructions in the forums.  Just my two cents.

I agree about the instructions.  It actually looked like they pulled them straight out of the 1080 kit... and they weren't in sequential order of things to do either.   I mentioned it upthread when the instructions went from one thing straight to installing the cooler on the GPU with the 4 spring screws previously removed... made no mention of installing the backplate first but I figured it out immediately LOL...
 
Before I started I watched the gamer nexus video of their 1080 to Ti hybrid mod just to get an idea about how the Ti FE comes apart.
 
It wasn't difficult just a bit time consuming with all those tiny backplate screws.  If I were to do it again I'd be much faster now that I have an idea about how it goes together. 
 
Pics are in my PC link in the sig.

evga-lover
Thank you for your quick response.
 

TRClark911
  Also... this PWM or DC mode and smart fan mode, are these x62 settings or BIOS settings?  

 
This is a bios setting. I'm trying to figure out if I should let the motherboard control the fan speed, or does the NZXT firmware take precedent over the bios settings and manages the fan and pump speed. 
 
Currently my daily driver is 4.9GHZ at 1.350 vcore.  At 5GHZ Windows will load and normal web browsing is fine. It's only when I am running an intense game or bench marking does it crash. I'm a little leery about putting the vcore higher than 1.35. Hopefully it will run stable after the delidding.

I really have no idea about that.  What I can tell you is my BIOS is running completely at default other than the 1 button OC things I mentioned earlier.  Going to 5ghz all I've done is change the multiplier from 48 to 50.  So whatever the PWM DC mode and smart fan mode settings are at default, that's what I am running.
 
Whenever I need to tweak anything such as fan speeds, I do it in CAM.
 
You should run a stable 5ghz after the delid if mine is any indication.  I'll check that plug in for the X62 later this evening and let you know.