DukeCLR
Very good weekend,  I just looked at some of those videos, the deliding itself doesn't look too bad but using the LM seems tricky, some guys tape off the area and apply to both sides while some don't.  does the TIM you used fail after a period or will it last for the duration?

I taped mine off and it was super easy.  I'm not sure of the duration of the TIM... but the LM and GCE had nothing but rave reviews and I'm most definitely impressed.
 

GTXJackBauer
I just realized one thing while everyone's freaking about temps, you're all roughly pumping 5.0 Ghz with higher voltage.  Duh! I wouldn't fault the IHS while I know it's hasn't been favored for a number of years but yeah, you guys are pushing these chips fairly well so you can't blame the IHS completely.
 
Also, I would advise on not running the chips passed 85c.  At that point and beyond it starts to slowly chip away at the chips longevity, let alone killing the warranty once delid.

I see what you're saying but my temps were going into the low 80's even at stock 4.2Ghz and went slightly higher when I went to 4.8...  the initial post delid numbers I posted yesterday were at 4.8 and I've since went to 5Ghz and they've remained very good... 60's and 70's so while I may have voided the warranty on my now $300 chip the temps are much better so I'm happy.
 
I'm still very happy with Intel overall.  :)
 

ricchi_
CL Liquid ultra should be applied and left alone, no need to re-apply "ever". As long as it has no contact with aluminium, there should be no degradation.
 
@ TRClark911 i meant to apply the Liquid ultra to the GPU die, although there might be more stuff to short around there. 

Good to know thanks. 
 
Oh, my bad.  Yeah I just used the liquid ultra on the CPU die... not GPU.

Not me. Mine hits into the 80s and I haven't even started overclocking yet. The 7700k is pretty much a factory overclocked 6700, and based on the community's results it definitely should have been a candidate for a soldered heat spreader. Also, 5GHz is a very small overclock for a chip that turbos at 4.5 stock.

One innovation that would allow MUCH higher clocks would be a soldered heat spreads since heat is pretty much the main obstacle this generation. Hence the criticism.

Thanks for all the info on this guys... good to know!
 
I'm happy with the results on both the GPU hybrid install and CPU delid.  As I'm typing this the GPU is idling at 19C and the CPU at 25C... load temps on both have been amazing.. low 40's on the GPU and upper 60's to lower 70's on the CPU.
 
Couldn't be happier!  A nearly 50% improvement (-41C) on GPU temps and a ballpark -16C improvement on the CPU.
 
3Dmark scores went up 150-500 pts on each test as well running a stable +165 +225 on GPU and the CPU at 5Ghz.

Firestrike - 23,259 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12267370
Firestrike Extreme - 13,889 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12267454
Firestrike Ultra - 7,439 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12267548
Timespy - 9,628 http://www.3dmark.com/spy/152840
 
 

LVNeptune
Those temps are excellent for sure but I would expect that it would be much lower especially after a delid. I'm around 88c using Antec 7 but I would expect the delid to allow for 5ghz much easier.

 
Yeah... I'm very happy with the results.  I previously had stability issues at 5ghz... but now it runs smooth... just a bit warmer.
 
As said prior to the delid previous highs were Prime95 blend test @ 92C... Furmark CPU burner around the same... and encoding videos at 100% load would push me into the mid 80's. After delidding Prime 95 blend test peaked @ 76C, Furmark CPU burner @ 72C... encoding videos at 100% load peaked at 68C. Basically I've seen a ballpark 16C decrease in temps from the delid.
 
Those temps are at 4.8ghz before and after the delid.
 
The delid allows for a stable 5ghz... but temps are about 10C warmer than 4.8...  so basically I take a 16C drop and run at the same 4.8ghz... or I run at 5ghz and roughly a 5C drop over the original numbers... which still has me in the mid 80's on stress testing and encoding.
 
Am I wrong for saying I think it might be better to stay at 4.8?

 

LVNeptune
I think it would be preference at that point. The CPU should start to thermal throttle when it hits 95c and I believe the "max" it can take before crashing is around 99c. Other than really sweet numbers is there a real performance gain?

The GPU is dialed in and stable with full load temps in the low 40's...  The difference in 3dMark benchmarks were 150-500 pts between 4.8 and 5ghz... which probably translates to what?  3 fps?
 
I think 4.8 is the best bet... solid CPU temps in the 65-75 range at 100% load and stress tests.  Can't complain.  It's still a nice bump from the stock 4.2...

LVNeptune
Nice. I need to order the delid and relid kit when I get back to a pc. Also that liquid metal too.

It's a nice kit from Rockit 88.  I just sold and shipped mine to a fellow EVGA forum member.  Don't see myself using it again anytime soon so got back most of what I paid for it...

You could jack up the clocks for benches only and dial it down for 24/7 daily use and for longevity purposes.  You'll just have to calculate what you feel your sweet spot is in voltage, temps and audibles.

What have you been testing with?

With Valley I get +200/+400 stable

GTXJackBauer
I just realized one thing while everyone's freaking about temps, you're all roughly pumping 5.0 Ghz with higher voltage.  Duh! I wouldn't fault the IHS while I know it's hasn't been favored for a number of years but yeah, you guys are pushing these chips fairly well so you can't blame the IHS completely.
 
Also, I would advise on not running the chips passed 85c.  At that point and beyond it starts to slowly chip away at the chips longevity, let alone killing the warranty once delid.

That's more like 90 being the point where long term degradation begins. 85 is the top of the safe for normal operation with these and the previous chips.

90 and above is no good under 80 is ideal while 85 peak is acceptable.

Taken from a lot of info put out by asus, intel & guys like Der8aurer etc.

TRClark911

demon09
:X shoot 19c idle that's lower then my ambient.after the hybrid install

Yeah... cool on the beach.  About to delid the CPU.
 

What app is this?

mack1080

TRClark911

demon09
:X shoot 19c idle that's lower then my ambient.after the hybrid install

Yeah... cool on the beach.  About to delid the CPU.
 

What app is this?

CAM... downloaded it from NZXT for the Kraken x62.

TRClark911

LVNeptune
What have you been testing with?

With Valley I get +200/+400 stable

+165 +225 is best I've pulled off...
 
I've crashed multiple times at +175 and while I have taken the memory clock all the way up to +540 it's also dropped my 3Dmark score by up to 1000 points (graphics score lowered) on the tests... thought I read somewhere that even with error correction on the memory side it leads to performance loss.
 
I'm no expert but I would guess that is what is happening.  I've mainly ran the 3 3Dmark FS benchmarks... I've got crashes running those which is a good enough indicator for me.  For stability I've stress tested with Furmark.

I'm kind of over 3D Mark. Software has never been stable for me. It crashes on stock clocks. Same thing with my 980Ti

cloiselle1

GTXJackBauer
I just realized one thing while everyone's freaking about temps, you're all roughly pumping 5.0 Ghz with higher voltage.  Duh! I wouldn't fault the IHS while I know it's hasn't been favored for a number of years but yeah, you guys are pushing these chips fairly well so you can't blame the IHS completely.
 
Also, I would advise on not running the chips passed 85c.  At that point and beyond it starts to slowly chip away at the chips longevity, let alone killing the warranty once delid.

That's more like 90 being the point where long term degradation begins. 85 is the top of the safe for normal operation with these and the previous chips.

90 and above is no good under 80 is ideal while 85 peak is acceptable.

Taken from a lot of info put out by asus, intel & guys like Der8aurer etc.

 
You basically echoed what I just with the exception to saying that 90c instead of 85c.  I've read and known that it basically starts around 85c from my 15+ year knowledge, obviously at a slower rate, hence why I said slowly chipping away than at the 90c+ range.  All is good.
 

LVNeptune

GTXJackBauer
I just realized one thing while everyone's freaking about temps, you're all roughly pumping 5.0 Ghz with higher voltage.  Duh! I wouldn't fault the IHS while I know it's hasn't been favored for a number of years but yeah, you guys are pushing these chips fairly well so you can't blame the IHS completely.
 
Also, I would advise on not running the chips passed 85c.  At that point and beyond it starts to slowly chip away at the chips longevity, let alone killing the warranty once delid.

Not taking OC into consideration. The stock thermal compound they started using on Kaby Lake is terrible. The temps on water cooling should be much lower than they already are. People are seeing a 20c drop replacing the existing stuff with liquid metal.

Well, when they started getting away from soldered IHS a few years back, it's just been a uphill battle for most.  
 
I just have a different way of doing things than delidding the CPU and destroying the warranty.  I just can't find myself taking a gamble on a $300-$600+ CPU but that's just me personally.