I've talked myself out of rushing in, reference cards limited to 320w, fe to 370, I'm waiting for an ftw3 hybrid for that 370-400w goodness.
 
Time to watch the carnage unfold for the next 26 hours as the hybrids wont be out tomorrow anyway

GuitarGuy93
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32GE1bfxRVo

Looks pretty good.
User defined fan control brings significant temp drop from 72->61C
Interesting talk about bottlenecking. Some gonna need to upgrade CPU.
3080 @1440P>2080Ti @1080P

yeah, imma wait and gamble on the FTW3.....god if i don't get my grubby hands on it, and the FE is also sold out....imma punch a dolphin!

This looks amazing.

"Perhaps more importantly, the RTX 3080 is the first graphics card we've tested that manages to break 60 fps in every game in our current test suite at 4K ultra, averaging nearly 100 fps overall"
via toms hardware
 
I cant wait to see the 3090. I understand now why nvidia for the first time is talking about 8k. when your lower card is already getting 100fps ultra at 4k its time to start the 8k discussion for the more beefy card. Imagine FTW3 cards under water pulling 500+ watts. You may get AT LEAST an additional 15% improvement on 3090 OC'd which would make it close to 40% faster than stock 3080

communicated where? i'm looking at the front page of the 30xx cards, and it's not there. Also, what about that whole thingy with the FTW3 delays and all.......post information on the website, not some random tweet or something......

Where: On this forum, on numerous others like OCUK, Reddit, twitter...
FTW3: they have recently said that it has been delayed, it will launch but not be available tomorrow. Hopefully few days after, but they don't know.
Besides Nvidia has the AIBs on a short leash for this launch... all managed.
 
Relax. Quit crying.

Its already been confirmed that it can be undervolted. 
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/..._possible_on_the_3080/

Best Buy has some prices up for EVGA XC3

https://www.bestbuy.com/s...20GeForce%20RTX%203060

You do realize you are comparing two different types of ram right?

HawkOculus
I agree in terms of this new Nvidia launch though. The lack of consistency of information is highly annoying.

That, along with other significant issues** should make people a lot less frantic about trying to adopt one as early as humanly possible.
 
** Such as:
 
1. The benchmark embargo (A company never prevents great news from being disseminated just before release)
2. The fact that people forget to take time into account when judging how impressive a generational gain is.
 
From the 980 Ti, the 1080 Ti brought a 50% avg. framerate increase after 21 months, for $700 USD (~$742 in 2020). Most people considered it a pretty impressive offering.
 
From the 2080 Ti, the 3090 may bring, at best--very optimistically--a 68% avg framerate increase after 24 months, for "$1500" USD. Sarcastic quotes.
 
So at best the 3090 has a Price-To-Yearly % Gain ratio 75% higher than the 1080 Ti.
 
And if 3090 avg. framerates are only ~50% higher than the 2080 Ti, the 3090 would have a Price-To-Yearly % Gain ratio 130% higher than the 1080 Ti.
 
Remember, we're talking framerates, not FLOPS, and prices are adjusted for inflation (it would look even worse if they weren't). That's not exactly....great.
 
I'm not saying that the 3090 is garbage--I may well end up having to buy one myself. All I'm saying is that the insane hype that the "Influencers" have drummed up is simply not deserved. In terms of the per-year framerate gains it provides, it's either slightly better or slightly worse than the 1080 Ti, and when price is taken into account, it's flat-out disappointing--the opposite of the way it's been represented in the media--like it's some amazing, unprecedented coup.
 
EDIT: I corrected an error--I had swapped the 1080 Ti and 3090 in the Price-To-Y%G examples.

I really don't fret about the pseudo mathematics folks use to examine economic / technical progress.  Money spent is forgone, period.  nVidia's profitability is the business of their shareholders, not the consumer.  So exercise your right as a consumer, buy or don't.
 
To me the only math that matters is my old card does not game effectively at 4k and the 3080 does. 
 
So the choice is simple.  Stay at sub-60 fps and be dependent on g-sync.  Or buy either a 3080 or a 3090, or wait for AMD to catch up.

Wartymender
Does anyone know if the hydro copper 3090 or 3080 will be the internals of the FTW3 or an xc3 of their respective version?

Wartymender
Also, with the delay of the FTW3 does that mean the internals of the 3090 hydro copper will not be an FTW3? 
 

Hydro has been offered as Both in past generation cards, no reason to think this will change
 
Previous generations of cards --> FTW3 was a Custom PCB board with many improvements
 
We will see the details when EVGA gets to raise the curtain

Wartymender
Also, with the delay of the FTW3 does that mean the internals of the 3090 hydro copper will not be an FTW3? 
 

Why would it change? the FTW3 is delayed a few days and the hydro copper isn't supposed to come out for weeks or longer

Hey guys, so Jacob tweeted that Evga has pages up (and prices) for 30 series now. The problem is, its only on their US site (evga.com). You cannot order cards for EU delivery there.
 
Eu.Evga.Com (eu version) still doesnt have the cards - any idea when the pages/prices will go up?