Does anyone know what the difference is "normally" between a FTW3 Ultra and a base card...  for example is it usually 10% faster than stock.. 15% ..  ???

AHowes
All around better card.. higher clocks cause it's a cooler card with quieter much larger cooler with more fans and way higher power limit.

So you get what you pay for.

Perfect that is what I was wondering..  Thank you

Strat919
Will the FTW3 Ultra 3090 be available on the 24th?

Yes and 6 a.m. Pacific Time (15:00 Berlin time)

no ftw3 no sale
However I'm in the market for a 3090 which may yield some different sku distribution

redarman

irakandjii

AHowes
All around better card.. higher clocks cause it's a cooler card with quieter much larger cooler with more fans and way higher power limit.

So you get what you pay for.

Perfect that is what I was wondering..  Thank you

I'm open to being wrong but generally I've found that the "better" models of cards scale poorly with the price increase. For example if you spend 20% more on the card you're not getting 20% increase in FPS or 20% higher benchmark score. It's a diminishing return if you look at it that way.

Ya get what you pay for.. buy the cheapest card.. complain about the loud hot cooler and wanting to water cool it.. but in the end it wont matter much for clocks cause the card is power limited! So in the end your unhappy and stuck with it.

Why I always go for the highest most expensive cards and CPUs.

If your not a tech nerd and dont read reviews so specs wont bother you and never install px1 or Afterburner to check the clocks or temps and have a headset to block out the loud fans. Then by all means buy the cheapest card.

We will hear you on the forums eventually asking for help.

ehabash1
no ftw3 no sale
However I'm in the market for a 3090 which may yield some different sku distribution

Yeah this is some bizarre situation as well. You will watch every one of the 3080 card to sellout because you're waiting for FTW3 which might be released anytime without any warning beforehand. If you miss that release window, you are basically left empty handed. If they would have released on 17th, then you would have a chance. Now we need to F5 like how long, 1 week relentlessly?
 

Quantity newegg US has listed for Thursday Morning..
 
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F5alcon
And we have already seen a leaked Quadro with the full GA102 die with 48GB GDDR6 just switch that to 24GB GDDR6X at the full 21Gbps instead of 19Gbps and they have a Titan with 5-10% more performance than the 3090. Plus there still is a GA100 die with no announced products. 

It appears that you replied to the wrong person? It was the person that I replied to that said that the 3090 would remain the top card, not me.

vulcan1978
If youre coming from 2080 Ti the math works out like this:
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Get it? 

vulcan1978...with respect, what are you talking about, lol?  I replied to your speculation about the "gaping chasm in price and performance" between 3080 and 3090 as it relates to possible reactions to Big Navi.
 
I said nothing whatever about any other generation, or any relative performance between any other generation.

F5alcon

Desaccorde
Seems like FTW3s will be delayed for a bit. Not long but might not be available on launch.
 

i hope they either let us still order them on the 17th or tell us when they are coming out in advance, don't just want to have a random release that refresh bots just get all the stock because nobody else knows to be checking. 

I agree 100%, either let us order them on the 17th or give us a date and time.  Jacob's response on twitter to "set a notify" is a joke.  By the time the in-stock notifications go out, they will already all be sold out.

 
 
I wanted to address a couple points that have been mentioned:
 
1. Not all of a console's RAM is available for games. The last I checked, the Series X had 13GB available of 16GB (The XB1 had 5.5GB of 8GB). Even if that's changed, the point is that a good amount has to be reserved for all sorts of services at all times, whether they're being used or not (It's not like a PC in which the user makes these decisions).
 
Also, as @Omoeba pointed out, the console RAM is shared between CPU and GPU. This means that there is no set amount for either. It's almost certain that the lion's share will go to the GPU at any given time, but the allotment ratio can vary based on developer decision, and also from moment to moment in-game. Basically, it's entirely possible that a console game could use ~9GB of VRAM. Given the fact that almost all modern AAA "PC" games are just toss-ported from console with zero optimization, and only the minimal coding required to get it to function, we can expect PC VRAM usage to often be significantly higher (I hope this situation changes, but I expect the opposite).
 
2. Regarding the 10GB of the RTX 3080, I consider it rather blah-inspiring, to put it mildly. I honestly think it's ridiculous for a person to have 11GB of VRAM in 2017...and 10GB of VRAM in 2024, which is what will happen if he buys the card in the beginning of 2021 and use it for 3 years. Even used only 2 years, that's only 10GB six years after he had 11GB. If one balks at paying $1500+ for a GPU, that's what he's looking at. [EDIT: I altered this paragraph to reflect that the 1080 Ti had 11GB 1.5 years before the 2080 Ti (March 2017).]
 
EDIT: A person upgrading from a 1080 is looking at a "whopping" 25% increase in VRAM after five years. If he keeps it for only 2 years, he'll have a meager 25% more VRAM seven years later.
 
Even as it stands, there are people whose individual use cases and hardware setups require a lot of VRAM, and they represent a lot of the people who buy high-end cards. Once AAA games start being designed for 13GB instead of 5.5GB in a year or two, that is going to take a huge leap. So this is an issue that concerns mid-range cards as well (If necessary, I imagine lower end cards will just have a bunch of lower-speed RAM, so they are able to play games, albeit at low framerates).
 
I don't think the 30 Series is jaw-dropping fantastic as the Hypers make out. In addition to other issues, A person who paid an inflated $1000 for a measly 30% gain 2080 Ti has the option of paying $300 less for insufficient VRAM, or $500 more for a lot more VRAM. A person who wants a 1080 Ti or 2080 Ti replacement with enough RAM must shell out $1500+, which is drastically more than the 2080 Ti, and super-drastically more than the 1080 Ti, even accounting for inflation. Not exactly something to break out the party hats and kazoos for, is all I'm saying.

I dont see them on the USA site but maybe my phone redirects to some other country or site type than a PC. Got a link to any of the evga 3090 listings?

If the 3080 comes out on the 17th why is EVGA being so quiet about it?!... I mean not even a Pre-Order?

https://www.amazon.com/stores/GeForce/RTX3080_GEFORCERTX30SERIES/page/6B204EA4-AAAC-4776-82B1-D7C3BD9DDC82 Maybe I can reply to my own message?

aight, so, this is the first time i'm buying(MAYBE) a new gen card at launch, since my current card, 1080ti, i got it a while into it's lifetime. So, let me say this: this ENTIRE launch is a *Removed Language* show. We don't know WHEN it will launch, other than he says/she says, nor the price, and hell, APPARENTLY there might be a delay for the ftw3 and above, and it's NOT from EVGA, but, from what i recall, some guy on twitter.......what i'm saying is that it would be AMAZING if we got a solid release date, with a price and availability. i don't believe i'm asking for too much. this is the same as the new consoles. they're supposed to be launched RIGHT around the corner, but we know just about NOTHING about them, i.e. price, release date(for ps5, but that MIGHT change today) and actual launch titles!