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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 12:42:51
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If the 3080 comes out on the 17th why is EVGA being so quiet about it?!... I mean not even a Pre-Order?
Nvidia isn't allowing them too
Was that a joke?... I forgot to laugh. Yet others are allowed to post (PRE-RELEASE and Auto-Notify)
Nvidia doesn't allow preorders but EVGA has the product pages up now.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 12:56:31
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If the 3080 comes out on the 17th why is EVGA being so quiet about it?!... I mean not even a Pre-Order?
Nvidia isn't allowing them too
Was that a joke?... I forgot to laugh. Yet others are allowed to post (PRE-RELEASE and Auto-Notify)
Nvidia doesn't allow preorders but EVGA has the product pages up now.
Only in USA. EU.evga.com is still empty :(
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 13:01:59
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Is the "Compare" function broken for anyone else on the 3080 product page?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 13:10:48
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Also, with the delay of the FTW3 does that mean the internals of the 3090 hydro copper will not be an FTW3?
Why would it change? the FTW3 is delayed a few days and the hydro copper isn't supposed to come out for weeks or longer
Ok, so the hydro copper will have the same internals as the FTW3 just with a water block and releasing at a later date.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 13:17:37
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Ok, so the hydro copper will have the same internals as the FTW3 just with a water block and releasing at a later date.
Not exactly. There will likely be XC3 Hydro Copper and FTW3 Hydro Copper. Different PCBs, so different water blocks.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 13:20:01
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Does anyone know if the XC3 black is the same binned chip as the XC3 gaming?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 13:33:43
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Does anyone know if the XC3 black is the same binned chip as the XC3 gaming?
If I had to guess I would say no. Black is probably B0.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 13:46:23
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Hopefully we can put the allocation versus usage argument to rest: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/itx0pm/doom_eternal_confirmed_vram_limitation_with_8gb/ (Copied text from the link above) The Hardware unboxed review of the 3080 confirmed that the massive FPS increase with the 3080 that led Nvidia to use it at 4k with 'Nightmare' (max) settings and conclude up to 100% fps increase at 4k (Hardware Unboxed confirmed 109%) was entirely due to a VRAM limitation. 4k Ultra Nightmare2080 - 883080 - 189In the video he confirms that game running at 4k with absolute max settings used 9gb of VRAM on the 3080 (more than the 2080 has), and before 'ALLOCATED VERSUS USED' comes into play, he said that all he did was turn the 'ULTRA NIGHTMARE' texture pool size setting to 'ULTRA' (1 lower than max), and it dropped the VRAM usage on the 2080 to 7gb, and the FPS difference lowered to 70% instead of 109% 4k Ultra Nightmare (lower texture pool settings to 'Ultra' instead of 'Ultra Nightmare')2080 - 1113080 - 189 This clearly indicates a limitation of VRAM with the 2080 GDDR6. However, something to consider. People are insisting that GDDR6x is so much faster, than VRAM quantity doesn't matter. However, when the 3080 was reporting using 9gb, the 2080 was reporting being capped at 8gb, and it was seeing performance drop. When the settings were lowered, the 2080 saw 7gb, and saw that massive 26% FPS increase. This means that we can trust this game shows VRAM usage, not allocation, and even GDDR6X on a game from earlier this year is already approaching maximum VRAM for the card.The question becomes, how long do you expect this to be a 'one-off scenario for the 1% of games at absolute maximum settings'*The 2080 vs 3080 video is the Digital Foundry video they released after the 3080 reveal, stickied belowHere's a twitter quote from the lead engine designer of Doom Eternal itself:VRAM Increasing for Next Gen TitlesHardware Unboxed Video
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 13:51:58
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Are they going to be available at midnight, or whats the exact time we are looking at?
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 13:58:19
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Does anyone know if the XC3 black is the same binned chip as the XC3 gaming?
I dont think EVGA has mentioned anything about binning but if i had to guess its probably like this: All XC3 cards = Bin 0 All FTW3 cards = Bin 1 Kingpin = Bin 2
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 14:01:41
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Does anyone know if the XC3 black is the same binned chip as the XC3 gaming?
I dont think EVGA has mentioned anything about binning but if i had to guess its probably like this:
All XC3 cards = Bin 0
All FTW3 cards = Bin 1
Kingpin = Bin 2
What's the FE going to be then, Bin2? nVidia normally keeps the best for themselves.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 14:01:48
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Are they going to be available at midnight, or whats the exact time we are looking at?
6am PDT
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 14:04:00
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Are they going to be available at midnight, or whats the exact time we are looking at?
6am PDT
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 14:04:08
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If the 3080 comes out on the 17th why is EVGA being so quiet about it?!... I mean not even a Pre-Order?
Nvidia isn't allowing them too
Was that a joke?... I forgot to laugh. Yet others are allowed to post (PRE-RELEASE and Auto-Notify)
Preorders are not the same as auto notify, we can't read your mind about what you mean to ask.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 14:10:20
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Clint Toris
Does anyone know if the XC3 black is the same binned chip as the XC3 gaming?
I dont think EVGA has mentioned anything about binning but if i had to guess its probably like this:
All XC3 cards = Bin 0
All FTW3 cards = Bin 1
Kingpin = Bin 2
What's the FE going to be then, Bin2? nVidia normally keeps the best for themselves.
Dunno tbh. Im sure well find out in a few weeks.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 14:18:44
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Hey could any mods please help - when will EU site of Evga have 3080 listings? Will they be open for orders same time as US website?
Im Uk based, and eu.evga.com doesnt even have pages set for 30 series at all. Its worrying.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 14:22:47
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Hey could any mods please help - when will EU site of Evga have 3080 listings? Will they be open for orders same time as US website?
Im Uk based, and eu.evga.com doesnt even have pages set for 30 series at all. Its worrying.
It doesn't have anything for Z490 either and how long has that platform been out. The only reasonable conclusion is that you can't rely on the EVGA store website tomorrow. You'd be better off checking out one of the UK e-retailers... the usual suspects.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 14:23:12
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Hey could any mods please help - when will EU site of Evga have 3080 listings? Will they be open for orders same time as US website?
Im Uk based, and eu.evga.com doesnt even have pages set for 30 series at all. Its worrying.
Mods have no more information than you have unfortunately. EVGA customer service may be able to answer, but I am not sure honestly. The other option would be to ask Jacob through Twitter.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 14:26:13
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Hey could any mods please help - when will EU site of Evga have 3080 listings? Will they be open for orders same time as US website?
Im Uk based, and eu.evga.com doesnt even have pages set for 30 series at all. Its worrying.
It doesn't have anything for Z490 either and how long has that platform been out. The only reasonable conclusion is that you can't rely on the EVGA store website tomorrow. You'd be better off checking out one of the UK e-retailers... the usual suspects.
Except none of UK retailers have FTW3 even listed. the_Scarlet_one
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Hey could any mods please help - when will EU site of Evga have 3080 listings? Will they be open for orders same time as US website?
Im Uk based, and eu.evga.com doesnt even have pages set for 30 series at all. Its worrying.
Mods have no more information than you have unfortunately. EVGA customer service may be able to answer, but I am not sure honestly. The other option would be to ask Jacob through Twitter.
He's not replying sadly. Asked twice now :/
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 14:28:32
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They don't want our money.
Fine. I got choices.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 14:31:35
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They don't want our money.
Fine. I got choices.
Yeah thats what im thinking too. Shame because i really wanted an EVGA card, but it almost seems like EVGA is just doing its best not to sell me one :/
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2020/09/16 15:22:13
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Shame because i really wanted an EVGA card, but it almost seems like EVGA is just doing its best not to sell me one :/
I don't know about anyone else, but I typically use a GPU for at least 2.5 years. I would gladly wait a measly matter of days or weeks in order to get an EVGA card instead of being stuck for years with a card from another company with inferior workmanship and customer service.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 15:25:40
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Shame because i really wanted an EVGA card, but it almost seems like EVGA is just doing its best not to sell me one :/
I don't know about anyone else, but I typically use a GPU for at least 2.5 years. I would gladly wait a measly matter of days or weeks in order to get an EVGA card instead of being stuck for years with a card from another company with inferior workmanship and customer service.
If i cant seem to get the company to SELL me the product, im not entirely sure i'll be able to get that company to "service" my product if the need arises. Dont get me wrong, i know EVGA is accepted as fantastic gpu maker, but it seems like they dont really care about EU customers. So it might be better for me to just say it and go with someone who has a bit more presence in EU (like asus). Will see how tomorrow goes. VULGAR LANGUAGE REMOVED. Do not post vulgar language.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 15:34:19
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Maybe I missed something, but is there any reason why EVGA isn't listing the 3080 FTW models on their product page?
Thanks
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 15:39:11
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If the 3080 comes out on the 17th why is EVGA being so quiet about it?!... I mean not even a Pre-Order?
Nvidia isn't allowing them too
Was that a joke?... I forgot to laugh. Yet others are allowed to post (PRE-RELEASE and Auto-Notify)
Preorders are not the same as auto notify, we can't read your mind about what you mean to ask.
Duh...3rd Weeker. Please show me where I said they are the same? - I can wait.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 15:41:20
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Maybe I missed something, but is there any reason why EVGA isn't listing the 3080 FTW models on their product page?
Thanks
They will after the first models
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2020/09/16 15:46:07
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Shame because i really wanted an EVGA card, but it almost seems like EVGA is just doing its best not to sell me one :/
I don't know about anyone else, but I typically use a GPU for at least 2.5 years. I would gladly wait a measly matter of days or weeks in order to get an EVGA card instead of being stuck for years with a card from another company with inferior workmanship and customer service.
If i cant seem to get the company to SELL me the product, im not entirely sure i'll be able to get that company to "service" my product if the need arises.
Dont get me wrong, i know EVGA is accepted as fantastic gpu maker, but it seems like they dont really care about EU customers. So it might be better for me to just say it and go with someone who has a bit more presence in EU (like asus).
Will see how tomorrow goes.
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You don't have to buy EVGA products from this site, third party retailers sell them too and you might even get them faster ;)
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 16:03:12
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You don't have to buy EVGA products from this site, third party retailers sell them too and you might even get them faster ;)
None of the UK retailers list FTW3 models, only XC3
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/16 16:12:07
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Maybe I missed something, but is there any reason why EVGA isn't listing the 3080 FTW models on their product page?
Thanks
They will after the first models
Wait, so are the FTW models not releasing at the same time as the XC3 models? On newegg I noticed both the FTW and XC3 models are listed but only the XC3 have prices...
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