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Question: Are the hybrids going to use the extremely loud and broken Aestek coolers that everyone got on the 2080 super series? Would just like to know before i waist another $800
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2020/09/17 09:30:20
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Went to Micro Center, sold out. People lined up previous day. Online orders probably went to bots only.
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Someone discovered that Nvidia's FE page was never meant to actually sell items. See here: https://twitter.com/romulof/status/1306600684616183808 This all confirms the findings of Moore's Law Is Dead guy from youtube. He predicted and explained all this **** some weeks ago. Nvidia is doing this on purpose.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/17 09:36:58
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ThirteenEra
Someone discovered that Nvidia's FE page was never meant to actually sell items.
See here: https://twitter.com/romulof/status/1306600684616183808
This all confirms the findings of Moore's Law Is Dead guy from youtube. He predicted and explained all this **** some weeks ago. Nvidia is doing this on purpose.
Yes, I noticed it also. I saw it happen with one refresh. Im seriously considering RDNA2. This is the slimy tactics that really piss me off.
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2020/09/17 09:49:10
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ThirteenEra
Someone discovered that Nvidia's FE page was never meant to actually sell items.
See here: https://twitter.com/romulof/status/1306600684616183808
This all confirms the findings of Moore's Law Is Dead guy from youtube. He predicted and explained all this **** some weeks ago. Nvidia is doing this on purpose.
Yes, I noticed it also. I saw it happen with one refresh. Im seriously considering RDNA2. This is the slimy tactics that really piss me off.
I just wish EVGA would start making AMD based products, especially motherboards since with Xen 3 AMD is probably going to pass Intel in gaming performance.
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2020/09/17 10:41:18
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Yep I guess the new distribution chain has put the scalpers right smack in the middle.
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2020/09/17 12:13:28
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I was up since 5:30am and was 1 click away from finalizing the purchase through the checkout process...and then the site crashed. and when the page was able to reload..."Out of stock". great.
any idea when the next batch might be?
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2020/09/17 12:21:26
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Still radio silence. I wonder if they even had any to sell to start with.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/17 12:41:26
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Those ebay listings with super high prices are all fake. They're made by people who probably don't even have a card on order and have a reserve set on them at some astronomical price point. They then have a bunch of slave accounts bid the listings up to a super high dollar amount but they make sure to never actually meet the reserve price so that the auctions always ends with no sale.
I also don't think that as many cards go to scalpers as people seem to believe. Most of the cards being listed by private sellers on the various marketplaces are people who don't have a card and weren't able to order one either. If you pay their markup then you will be waiting for them to ship it for months just like everyone who didn't pay the scalper's price because the scalper never had a card in hand to sell you. Wait and order it from a reputable 1st party seller and you'll pay MSRP and get it in the same amount of time.
As for the so called "bots", EVGA's shopping cart has a CAPTCHA in it so that should deter them, although I am confident that at least some of them can get around that.
What we all witnessed this morning happens at EVERY SINGLE new major GPU launch. There was nothing unexpected or novel about this morning. Tens of thousands of people descend on a couple of web sites all at the same time and hammer them with requests causing the servers that they are hosted on to crash or DDoS protections to kick in. Some people get in and manage to get their order through, some orders get delayed, some can't get the site to load until everything is out of stock, and some absolutely lose their minds and rage in these forums.
Time is a flat circle.
The truth of the matter is that initial stocks were (and always are) very low across the board on launch day. I do totally agree with the school of thought that says that it doesn't have to be this way and that there should be a lottery and names drawn for who gets the first round of cards. That would totally bypass a lot of the frustration that happens every launch day.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/17 12:42:29
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I was up since 5:30am and was 1 click away from finalizing the purchase through the checkout process...and then the site crashed. and when the page was able to reload..."Out of stock". great.
any idea when the next batch might be?
I was up at 5am too, but you got further than me. All I got was sites instantly crashing. Didn't even get to add anything to a cart. Sucks. I'm hoping I can jump on the FTW3. I just wish Jacob could be a little more detail orientated with the release time.
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2020/09/17 12:48:14
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The truth of the matter is that initial stocks were (and always are) very low across the board on launch day. I do totally agree with the school of thought that says that it doesn't have to be this way and that there should be a lottery and names drawn for who gets the first round of cards. That would totally bypass a lot of the frustration that happens every launch day.
Yes but at the end of the day, EVGA and all vendors sold out of their stock, exactly what they want to do. Inventory costs to keep it around. I think none of the manufacturers have any incentive to do things the right way.
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Got in queue for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra so hopefully I don't have to worry about contesting with bots when those release. They didn't sell those today, right? 
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I'm not sure if this claim is true or not, but I sure hope it is. nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/398094/i-wrote-a-bot-to-inflate-scalper-prices-with-no-in/
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2020/09/17 13:16:07
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Got in queue for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra so hopefully I don't have to worry about contesting with bots when those release. They didn't sell those today, right?
?? how did you get into a que?
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2020/09/17 13:26:51
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Fitzfrenzied
The truth of the matter is that initial stocks were (and always are) very low across the board on launch day. I do totally agree with the school of thought that says that it doesn't have to be this way and that there should be a lottery and names drawn for who gets the first round of cards. That would totally bypass a lot of the frustration that happens every launch day.
Yes but at the end of the day, EVGA and all vendors sold out of their stock, exactly what they want to do. Inventory costs to keep it around. I think none of the manufacturers have any incentive to do things the right way.
Do you really think there are not enough real buyers for the 3080 for them to not sell out in the first 10 minutes instead of the first 10 seconds?
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2020/09/17 13:33:56
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ShadowBlade006
Got in queue for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra so hopefully I don't have to worry about contesting with bots when those release. They didn't sell those today, right?
?? how did you get into a que?
They are listed in the step up program
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2020/09/17 13:34:52
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To stop bots and scalpers on the NVIDIA store, we’re doing everything humanly possible, including manually reviewing orders, to get these cards in the hands of legitimate customers.
EVGA should do that too.
I'm 95% sure I remember EVGA doing that when the 1080's came out. Every site sold out faster than I could get one. They reviewed orders and cancelled bot orders. Within a few days they did a second batch of the reclaimed orders and I picked an FTW up.
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2020/09/17 13:45:20
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Got in queue for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra so hopefully I don't have to worry about contesting with bots when those release. They didn't sell those today, right?
?? how did you get into a que?
They are listed in the step up program
i wonder if i buy a 2060 and then have it stepped up right away and tell them to not even ship me the other card it would work. They should just do a wait-list for everyone. I don't mind waiting, I just don't want to fight bots every time stock shows up
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2020/09/17 13:47:47
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F5alcon
To stop bots and scalpers on the NVIDIA store, we’re doing everything humanly possible, including manually reviewing orders, to get these cards in the hands of legitimate customers.
EVGA should do that too.
I'm 95% sure I remember EVGA doing that when the 1080's came out. Every site sold out faster than I could get one. They reviewed orders and cancelled bot orders. Within a few days they did a second batch of the reclaimed orders and I picked an FTW up.
You FTW,lol
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2020/09/17 13:53:15
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Condolences to all of the people who panic sold their 2080 Ti for $500 on ebay thinking the 3080 was truly 2x the performance of the 2080 (and 65% faster than 2080 Ti). Here's what overclocked 2080 Ti looks like compared to overclocked 3080 @ 4K (20%). https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1306254834383941633 Do note that this shrinks to 10% at 1440p. So unless youre at 4K there is no point in upgrading. Steam Survey: Steam Hardware & Software Survey 2% of systems surveyed are at 3840x2160
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2020/09/17 13:56:38
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Got in queue for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra so hopefully I don't have to worry about contesting with bots when those release. They didn't sell those today, right?
?? how did you get into a que?
They are listed in the step up program
i wonder if i buy a 2060 and then have it stepped up right away and tell them to not even ship me the other card it would work. They should just do a wait-list for everyone. I don't mind waiting, I just don't want to fight bots every time stock shows up
You have to register the S/N with them first but if you went and got a card you could do the step up as long as it’s still listed
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/17 13:58:33
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this is why pre order is much more better. you never get over loaded and can easily avoid automation by using anti bot techniques. also it gives proper numbers so that the company can meet the demand at least up to 80% if the supply pipelines are properly managed pre launched (again based on the pre order demands).
This. Don't know why they cant offer pre-orders, especially for people like me that have been buying cards from EVGA for more than a decade.
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2020/09/17 14:01:15
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ShadowBlade006
Got in queue for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra so hopefully I don't have to worry about contesting with bots when those release. They didn't sell those today, right?
?? how did you get into a que?
They are listed in the step up program
i wonder if i buy a 2060 and then have it stepped up right away and tell them to not even ship me the other card it would work. They should just do a wait-list for everyone. I don't mind waiting, I just don't want to fight bots every time stock shows up
You have to register the S/N with them first but if you went and got a card you could do the step up as long as it’s still listed
ah ok, not worth it then, just will try to do it the normal way
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2020/09/17 14:10:38
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Condolences to all of the people who panic sold their 2080 Ti for $500 on ebay thinking the 3080 was truly 2x the performance of the 2080 (and 65% faster than 2080 Ti).
Here's what overclocked 2080 Ti looks like compared to overclocked 3080 @ 4K (20%).
https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1306254834383941633
Do note that this shrinks to 10% at 1440p.
So unless youre at 4K there is no point in upgrading.
Steam Survey: Steam Hardware & Software Survey
2% of systems surveyed are at 3840x2160
It was pretty obvious from the get go that 3080 was NOT a replacement for 2080ti (or even 2080). I always understood it as: You have 2080/ti -> Either upgrade to 3090, if you really need the boost, or dont upgrade at all. You have 1080+ -> upgrade to 3080 if you plan to either increase fps (144hz) or resolution (4k). The only reason you would have to sell your 2080ti is either if you wanted to try and get a high price for it before the prices fell (i.e. instantly after announcement), or if you knew you were going to get 3090 for sure, and so wanted to try and get a good deal for it before that. If you sold 2080ti to buy 3080... Then you didnt do your research.
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Yeah I hear you, I agree with having a preorder
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2020/09/17 14:22:12
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Someone discovered that Nvidia's FE page was never meant to actually sell items.
See here: https://twitter.com/romulof/status/1306600684616183808
This all confirms the findings of Moore's Law Is Dead guy from youtube. He predicted and explained all this **** some weeks ago. Nvidia is doing this on purpose.
Yes, I noticed it also. I saw it happen with one refresh. Im seriously considering RDNA2. This is the slimy tactics that really piss me off.
I just wish EVGA would start making AMD based products, especially motherboards since with Xen 3 AMD is probably going to pass Intel in gaming performance.
Same here. AMD is on the up with CPUs. It seems like it's a solid INTEL and NVIDIA relationship going on here at EVGA. At what point do you think you have to move on and explore some new ground? Interesting to think about.
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Re: Introducing the EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Series with iCX3 Technology!
2020/09/17 14:44:19
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vulcan1978
Condolences to all of the people who panic sold their 2080 Ti for $500 on ebay thinking the 3080 was truly 2x the performance of the 2080 (and 65% faster than 2080 Ti).
Here's what overclocked 2080 Ti looks like compared to overclocked 3080 @ 4K (20%).
Do note that this shrinks to 10% at 1440p.
So unless youre at 4K there is no point in upgrading.
Steam Survey:
2% of systems surveyed are at 3840x2160
It was pretty obvious from the get go that 3080 was NOT a replacement for 2080ti (or even 2080). I always understood it as:
You have 2080/ti -> Either upgrade to 3090, if you really need the boost, or dont upgrade at all.
You have 1080+ -> upgrade to 3080 if you plan to either increase fps (144hz) or resolution (4k).
The only reason you would have to sell your 2080ti is either if you wanted to try and get a high price for it before the prices fell (i.e. instantly after announcement), or if you knew you were going to get 3090 for sure, and so wanted to try and get a good deal for it before that.
If you sold 2080ti to buy 3080... Then you didnt do your research.
I've been keeping an eye out, and it doesn't seem like there was as many being sold at that price as there were forum/twitter posts calling them stupid.
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