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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 21:05:35
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I was finally able to get my q6600 (after testing) to where my 680i couldn't... 
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 21:08:18
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just use distilled water with a biocide, can't beat it in a non chilled loop
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 21:15:58
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microcenter special + distilled water here...and it's still up and running...
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 22:08:05
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/03 22:26:16
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 03:01:34
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this one is MUUUUCHHH better  FAR MORE interesting
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 04:29:03
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Hey, i had another quick question, i've talked to a few people, Gary from Sidewinder was one of them.
they are a bit worried about a single mcp655 pump to run through my gpu/chipset/cpu and 3 rads in a mountain mods case.
i know nate said that its a beast and he has ZERO problems going far distances of tubing with his, but what do you guys think? would i be better off with getting a double pump custom top type thing? or should i just stick with a single mcp655?'
also i'm worried if theres too much pressure with 2 pumps, i'm worried ill run into leaks from the extra pressure traveling.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 06:18:21
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oh... I was thinking about that last night. my ONE mcp 655 goes through this entire loop (not necessarily in this order:
Triple Rad
Triple Rad
Double Rad
Plexi Res
Plexi Res
Chipset cooler(my custom made one)
Mosfet cooler
Chiller Res
20+feet of 1/2" tubing...
AND THE OTHER CHILLER PUMP off!!
(the other chiller pump is normally used, but on occasion I have forgotten to turn it on, and you still see water cascading down the chiller over the evaporator when I forget to turn on the primary pump. When the primary pump is on, the flow increases)
If that isn't a testimonial, I don't know what is. But, if you can afford 2, then by all means. If you have 2, you can also personally try separate loops
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 10:16:11
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if you were going to go with a 2 pump system I would suggest a top like OC333 suggested and two MCP 355s but as nate has proven the MCP-655 is a monster pump, check out this thread if you want further proof: http://www.411overkill.co...ic.php?f=92&t=6399 that monster res/rad has a 2gallon reservoir ;)
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 10:53:07
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mines got slightly over 2 gallons of prestone. I think he said his Honda radiator held around a gallon. I don't think the quantity of liquid matters. I have always wanted to put a car radiator outside my window during the winter for free chiller cooling. I am helping a friend do that now.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 11:36:45
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So should I go with an MCP 655 over the 355 w/ top? (For ice water.)
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 11:39:36
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You have to make your own decisions. How cold are you looking to go? are you going above freezing?
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 12:03:07
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You have to make your own decisions. How cold are you looking to go? are you going above freezing?
As far as I know it should be just a ice slushie, so like -10 to 10C benching, normal 4x120 rad for 24/7, CPU only loop. Total cost will end up being like ~$250.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 14:06:56
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prestone will flow like water still.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 15:00:56
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Halo_003
So should I go with an MCP 655 over the 355 w/ top? (For ice water.)
I have the MCP 355 with the Laing top reservoir, Black Ice Extreme 560 rad, chiller, Masterkleer tubing 13/10mm(8meter) and it works great. If you really wanna go for ice water, use distilled water 2/3 and 1/3 Audi G12 plus and nothing more. I have around 6m of the tubes in daylight after 8 month there is no algae or whatever it looks like on the first day. And it was so easy to get rid of air with the top res, I just pre- filled the rad and chiller, started the pump and filled up what was missing to the top res. All together maybe 10 min of work.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 15:14:13
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Wizzard, welcome back! now get back to work on the 45K! 
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 15:21:46
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Nice! Which has better flow though?
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 15:46:16
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for my bootleg chilled water setup i use a submersible pump.. thing is a monster.. cost about $93 +20 in fittings to make it work for 1/2" tube
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 16:07:08
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Wizzard, welcome back! now get back to work on the 45K!
did last night, best was 44 876. I have probs to get good result with the physix test. I had 2 fps more in Jane Nash than you, 2 less in Calico, in AI 4200, I was sure that's a strong 46 but I never thought that I will have a ****ty 173 in Physix. I run now 4,9 GHz (21x235) but it 's not really stable. First thing now, I will go back on water with CPU to change to the latest BIOS. With my Bios max boot is 220 BLCK if I get a hard lock I must wait after cleaning CMOS that the temps go up to -20 or I can't boot anymore, just too cold.  . I hope that I'm able to boot with the latest Bios somewhere between 230 - 240 and than just some fine tuning with voltages. After 2 hours I can see ice on the back of the mobo, very funny, thanks god all protected with plast dip so no issue. 
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 16:07:27
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Hit the 680i overclocking limit with no sign of stopping! Good little P45... 
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 16:13:23
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i'm going to go with a single pump them, seems its really a beast.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 16:25:47
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Nice! Which has better flow though?
Halo, I really don't know but in my opinion, flow doesn't matter that much. Look in the old forum there have been some discussion about the impact of flow. According to the techn. sheet the 355 can pump to 4,7m the 655 to 3,7m, I believe that's because of the smaller diameter of the tube, not really sure about it. I had the 655 also on my list but didn't like the 1/2 fittings because I had already G 1/4 on the Aquagrafs and the Cuplex. What ever you choose you will be happy with it.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 17:25:02
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run dual pumps one in your case and one outside the case connected to a power supply. i used a  which is a 500 gph pump. also helps with filling a case with out turning on the main power. testing loops. the faster the flow that faster it cools a system..(just what i have seen so far)(thinking of getting a bigger one though)
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 17:30:19
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Alright, I'll probably just go with the 655 to save a bit of cash. Side note, I guess it wasn't my memory holding me back... 2000Mhz bench stable @ 1.75vdimm, 10-11-10-31-1T 
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 17:59:12
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jeez.. my kit runs 2000mhz 7-7-7-21
get you some better ram man
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 18:08:21
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jeez.. my kit runs 2000mhz 7-7-7-21
get you some better ram man
Maybe can't afford better ram man! Tell you what. Go here and see if your better ram can handle the speed. Cheap Super Talent DDR3 @ 2.4ghz. What can your's do?
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 18:11:55
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jeez.. my kit runs 2000mhz 7-7-7-21
get you some better ram man
Didn't ever try lower timings/voltage, just went straight to that, I was lazy.
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 18:15:08
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 18:37:33
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damn you shock!
i really have to start stepping up my overclock game. i think the highest i got with my ocz ram was 2200 mhz
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Re:Get It Colder II
2009/12/04 20:01:04
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damn you shock!
i really have to start stepping up my overclock game. i think the highest i got with my ocz ram was 2200 mhz
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