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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/24 18:19:36
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basically you want to "displace" any air pockets with matter. That matter can be vaseline, kneadable eraser, insulation etc. I was at work and I forgot to post the pictures on my work computer! I would defiantly get some plasti-dip and coat the motherboard around the socket. defiantly on the resistors next to the socket. Those things do NOT do well with moisture.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/24 18:47:46
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Put vaseline in the socket, then slap the cpu in? put regular thermal paste on the cpu. How bout the RAM..is it close enough it needs protection?
Will blowing a house fan on the whole thing reduce the chance of condensation, or is that not necessary?
Now the GPU's...seems I would need to do tops and bottoms of each 295, right? kneadable eraser ok?
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/24 18:50:40
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for what you cant really get to...your next best friend...shop towels!...them things do wonders on soaking up water.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/24 19:58:28
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Broke through P42k non-physx. Only 135 points away from andre yang's best vantage score (4 5870's) 
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/24 20:08:55
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wooohooooo!!  
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/24 20:12:02
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Sweet!!!!!!! Vince
Hey sorry for late response. Yah its dual sided and works with asus 295 and reference 295 + all the other cards including upcoming fermi. It does work ok with dry ice becuase of teh larger top, but really its made for LN2
Vince
Looks like I will be able to run some CPU+GPU DICE sometime this summer. 480/295.. Mhm that's a great combo. Take that Vokl!
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/24 20:18:15
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Great score Q! That's insane!
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/24 20:53:21
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Great job Q! Keep it up!
Tomorrow is my last day of school before spring break. DICE here i come.  I also plan to finish up my little project. What board and proc. should i use first under cold? I can't decide b/c i am worried about f'ing it up with condensation.  My DFI LP UT P35-T2R, my Gigabyte EP45-UD3P, or my EVGA 750i FTW? Obviously, the EVGA has lifetime warranty, but it is also the weakest overclocker, and the vreg and nb get toasty when pushing volts; also it has the least indepth oc'ing options. The Giga is still under warranty (at least i think), and is good for quads; but i don't know how Giga's CS or RMA process is. The DFI is secnod hand, so no warranty; it's good for duals; also though it has the cleanest socket area (no caps around it). The procs are q9300, e7400, e1500, pd 915, p4 660. I haven't used the e1500 or p4 660, but i figure i could test 'em out on air and see what they can do before tossing them under the cold. I was thinking maybe DFI + pd 915 (hit 4.7 fairly easily with it)... I just want some opinions though.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/24 20:56:39
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Halo_003
Sweet!!!!!!!
Vince
Hey sorry for late response. Yah its dual sided and works with asus 295 and reference 295 + all the other cards including upcoming fermi. It does work ok with dry ice becuase of teh larger top, but really its made for LN2
Vince
Looks like I will be able to run some CPU+GPU DICE sometime this summer. 480/295.. Mhm that's a great combo. Take that Vokl!
I seem to recall saying i wasnt certain if the new models were double sided 
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/24 21:07:55
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Halo_003
Sweet!!!!!!!
Vince
Hey sorry for late response. Yah its dual sided and works with asus 295 and reference 295 + all the other cards including upcoming fermi. It does work ok with dry ice becuase of teh larger top, but really its made for LN2
Vince
Looks like I will be able to run some CPU+GPU DICE sometime this summer. 480/295.. Mhm that's a great combo. Take that Vokl!
I seem to recall saying i wasnt certain if the new models were double sided
Haha. I'm just messing with you. I want to get a P55 Classified and a i7 860 for some DICE fun but I'm doubtful on that. It would be hella fun though.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 03:08:39
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GOOD LORD?! Awalley & Q, those 980X's are insane! you guys are JUST at the BEGINNING too! imagine what they will be doing later on down the months when you guys begin to dial them in.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 07:09:07
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If you have time Nate, post some pics on how to insulate. I may try what Rudster recommended first, since it's pretty easy. Would there be a difference in insulating techniques once I build a chiller?
Step 1: Order a sheet of 12x12x 3/8 closed-cell EV Foam from McMaster Carr. (3/8" puts you JUST over the height of the CPU socket-about the height of the chip itself. Step 2: Cut out voids in the foam for the cpu socket, 4 caps & square thingy to the right of the socket, and the 6 caps between NB & CPU.  Should fit like this:  Step 3: Take off the CPU socket hold down (T-15 torx bit) and then Plasti dip around the CPU socket (put your cpu cover over it. go up to the sides of the socket sealing around the plastic sides of the socket itself. Step 4: Fill in the gaps of the CPU socket with kneadable eraser.  Setp 5: Add any additional kneadable eraser around the socket to "seal up" between the foam, and socket. Test fit with your super secret waterblock and ensure good contact like so:  Then you have to insulate over the top of your waterblock, AND the tubing because that will freeze too. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 09:35:32
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WOW, thanks Nate! How about GPU's. I can also see my bitspower fittings on the gpus freezing as well, right?
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 09:36:48
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What's the blue painter's tape on the ram slot? temporary, or is that to protect the slot from condensation.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 09:58:43
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No phys test run
Look at the 2nd cpu test and compare it to a 920 run if you have one. Unless i am losing my mind the 920 scores twice as much.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 10:23:22
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What's the blue painter's tape on the ram slot? temporary, or is that to protect the slot from condensation.
was just a temp, but I left it there, was more to protect it from the plasti-dip. The GPU insulation for a dual 295 would require its own thread. I have TON's of pictures. It involves MUCH plasti-dip
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 11:27:41
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No phys test run
Look at the 2nd cpu test and compare it to a 920 run if you have one. Unless i am losing my mind the 920 scores twice as much.
Yeah but I'm sure that's with Physx enabled. He ran it without. For example my results are like this: Physx on, 920 @ 4.06Ghz - about 170-180 step/s Physx off, 920 @ 4.06Ghz - about 24-26 step/s @ Nate, Would those pics help me when prepping for a GPU DICE pot?
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 12:20:39
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No phys test run
Look at the 2nd cpu test and compare it to a 920 run if you have one. Unless i am losing my mind the 920 scores twice as much.
Yeah but I'm sure that's with Physx enabled. He ran it without. For example my results are like this:
Physx on, 920 @ 4.06Ghz - about 170-180 step/s
Physx off, 920 @ 4.06Ghz - about 24-26 step/s
@ Nate, Would those pics help me when prepping for a GPU DICE pot?
Right on i was not sure. I will have to test it when i get off work.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 12:58:45
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he is getting 50 to 55 with 6 cores <--and this will change(up or down) when you over clock the vga card
we are getting 33 to 37 with 4 cores <--and this will change(up or down) when you over clock the vga card
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 14:09:59
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No phys test run
Look at the 2nd cpu test and compare it to a 920 run if you have one. Unless i am losing my mind the 920 scores twice as much.
You are mistaken, this is with out physics enabled, no graphics card assistance. If I am wrong show me a 920 that scores more than 34-37 fps on the physics (2nd) test with out physics meaning no graphics card assistance.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 16:29:06
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Just picked up a #19 and #10 in 05 and 06 with my mom's laptop. I doubt I'll be on much, if at all this weekend though. I have Senior Champs. (Very important meet)
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 18:33:15
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and for the record...when i say go up or down... i mean by 1 point..lol cause that's all you gonna get over clocking the card on a non physx run. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 19:10:19
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Alright Halo! Picking up some points, WTG! Good luck @ champs....swim like it's your last meet. Really, nothing conservative, take the risk, surprise them all....
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 19:14:11
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Thanks Q! Technically it is my last meet. Of this season anyways. Mhm... When that damn house in Chicago sells I might pick up 2 980X's.. One for me and one for mah dad. But at least 1. I'll just bench both of them, and keep whichever clocks higher on DICE. 
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 23:00:53
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Anyone have problems with vantage running ppu enabled? Does warm up and stops, only with ppu enabled.
Reinstalled drivers and vantage still no go. Even with nothing overclocked.
So far 2 different video cards 9800 and GTS250.
Have not run with enabled in a long time.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 23:13:11
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ok, stupid question, is coming your way
I have not read the whole tread, but what are you guys doing/ trying to do.
I know its all about getting the best benchmarks with /and achieving the lowest temps.
but what methods,
just wanted to know, looks super cool , btw.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 23:20:54
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ok, stupid question, is coming your way
I have not read the whole tread, but what are you guys doing/ trying to do.
I know its all about getting the best benchmarks with /and achieving the lowest temps.
but what methods,
just wanted to know, looks super cool , btw.
Any and all methods, building chillers, dice pots, slush buckets, using automobile radiators, air conditioners, outside in the cold, evaporators, phase change, etc. Someone does it and can help you do it too.
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/25 23:21:13
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Anyone have problems with vantage running ppu enabled? Does warm up and stops, only with ppu enabled.
Reinstalled drivers and vantage still no go. Even with nothing overclocked.
So far 2 different video cards 9800 and GTS250.
Have not run with enabled in a long time.
check what version of physx is installed. this could be the problem as well..
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Re:Get It Colder......2
2010/03/26 03:21:12
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Well I got my replacement 759 and confirmed the restarting was the board.
Replacement worked a couple hours, then bios checksum error.
Now an instant FF did all the tricks that are listed, even swapped bios chips.
This sucks.
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