s10blazed
Glad to know a general time-frame.  I'm not the type to sit and hit refresh though.  I take the gamble that I'll see the email notification in time.

AHowes

sixty7velle
I read online that micro center is going to be selling combo deals similar to the diy configurator on here. Supposed to help cards go to gamers instead of Richard miners

That's over with as it seems they just gave in after all the bad press and now just selling them at $900+.. still quite a few left in stock at my store.. evga sold out fast though.

Still got my ftw3 hybrid much cheaper then there lowest priced card at $910 + tax.

jd63636
Hello fellow lurkers  The waiting game begins again 

Oheck

QuintLeo

juankfuentesr
95% of the demand are for the miners, it's his fault

Miners are not 95% of the demand or even close.
I seriously doubt miners have been 30% of the demand most months out of the last year - and DEFINITELY not in December when the cards ran out.
I strongly doubt that miners have ever been 30% or even 20% of the demand for NVidia cards ever, though I would not be shocked if they were 20% or more of the demand for AMD cards some months out of the last year.
 
AMD and NVidia combined shipped AT LEAST 10 million GPUs each quarter last year - the total was close to 50 million for the entire year.
Miners accounted for AT MOST 10 million GPUs sold ALL OF LAST YEAR, based on "total network hashrate" added to all cryptocoins that can use GPUs - my ACTUAL estimate is closer to 5 million, but it presumes miners bought mostly the higher hashrate cards for each coin.
 
 GAMER DEMAND is the bulk of the current shortage, NOT miner demand - the numbers just don't add up for any other HONEST conclusion.
 
 Note that AMD had a heck of a year with Ryzen - which is NOT a high demand CPU for mining rigs - SOME SORT of video had to go in all those Ryzen-based machines since NONE OF THEM have on-chip GPUs that have been sold to date.
 

The problem still lies at the feet of miners.  I don't care if they took a smaller portion then actual gamers when it comes to inventory.  They soaked up the remaining inventory that companies produce based on their average annual sales for their customer base, thus our total lack of product and price gouging from retailers as a result.  There are, according to your math, 10 million units not making it to their intended consumers.  Thus, the shortage.

sixty7velle

thatonedude14

Oheck

QuintLeo

juankfuentesr
95% of the demand are for the miners, it's his fault

Miners are not 95% of the demand or even close.
I seriously doubt miners have been 30% of the demand most months out of the last year - and DEFINITELY not in December when the cards ran out.
I strongly doubt that miners have ever been 30% or even 20% of the demand for NVidia cards ever, though I would not be shocked if they were 20% or more of the demand for AMD cards some months out of the last year.
 
AMD and NVidia combined shipped AT LEAST 10 million GPUs each quarter last year - the total was close to 50 million for the entire year.
Miners accounted for AT MOST 10 million GPUs sold ALL OF LAST YEAR, based on "total network hashrate" added to all cryptocoins that can use GPUs - my ACTUAL estimate is closer to 5 million, but it presumes miners bought mostly the higher hashrate cards for each coin.
 
 GAMER DEMAND is the bulk of the current shortage, NOT miner demand - the numbers just don't add up for any other HONEST conclusion.
 
 Note that AMD had a heck of a year with Ryzen - which is NOT a high demand CPU for mining rigs - SOME SORT of video had to go in all those Ryzen-based machines since NONE OF THEM have on-chip GPUs that have been sold to date.
 

The problem still lies at the feet of miners.  I don't care if they took a smaller portion then actual gamers when it comes to inventory.  They soaked up the remaining inventory that companies produce based on their average annual sales for their customer base, thus our total lack of product and price gouging from retailers as a result.  There are, according to your math, 10 million units not making it to their intended consumers.  Thus, the shortage.

I feel like a lot of it is also third party resellers buying them and then trying to resell on amazon or ebay for huge markups. 

After ebay takes their 10%, and PayPal takes their 3%, not worth messing with imo. Might be some profit in the 1070's. If you source amd cards at msrp, you could make a killing.
Ending up with $1,020 in my ftw3 hybrid 1080ti going the diy route. They are listed to 1100 to 1200 on ebay so would be lucky to get my money back and will have a junk case with a 1000w gold psu for a future build.

sixty7velle
It should be here wednesday. Purchased Thursday or Friday. Already have my old cards and a fan removed and waiting for the hybrid to show up. Very excited.