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Since things are a little complicated with a lot of threads spread all over the place, I'm going to post all the relevant BIOS information we've given to people. If you don't see a BIOS you need, you can request it below. However, I'm making this thread mostly to inform people about some of the issues people run into when flashing their BIOS or having to update the MCU via Precision X1, so new BIOS additions will be a lower priority. PSA#1: TURN OFF "FAST BOOT" IN YOUR MOTHERBOARD BIOS.PSA#1: TURN OFF "FAST BOOT" IN YOUR MOTHERBOARD BIOS.PSA#1: TURN OFF "FAST BOOT" IN YOUR MOTHERBOARD BIOS. Longer PSA in spoilers. I strongly suggest that you read this at least once. It could prevent an RMA. Seriously.
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Once again, turn off Fast Boot in your motherboard BIOS while you're playing around with flashing your BIOS. If fast boot is enabled, Windows will treat your card as the same GPU unless there's an obvious change, such as you change from a GeForce RTX 3080 to a GeForce RTX 3090, for example. Otherwise, Windows will just assume that nothing in your system has changed, including the DeviceID, which will change when you flash to a different BIOS version. Because Windows doesn't update the information automatically, it will give Precision X1 the wrong information, which is how many of you have run into an MCU flashing issue. If fast boot is disabled, Windows should check the DeviceID of each hardware component during each boot. It's still worth it to restart a couple times after flashing or flipping the switch over to a different BIOS to make sure everything is working normally. So, please make sure to turn off Fast Boot until you are done flashing, and you've decided on which BIOS switch you want to use. At that point, you can restart and re-enable Fast Boot again, if you wish.
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PSA#2: DISABLE CSM IN YOUR MOTHERBOARD BIOS BEFORE FLASHING A REBAR BIOS. Longer PSA in spoilers. If you forget to disable CSM in your motherboard BIOS before flashing a ReBAR BIOS, then you may end up with a black screen upon your next boot. If you need to learn how to enable NVIDIA Resizable BAR, visit our FAQ: https://www.evga.com/support/faq/FAQdetails.aspx?faqid=59772
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Disable CSM in your motherboard BIOS, or you run the risk of getting a black screen at boot. For FTW3 cards, which you can flip the switch on the card to go to a non-ReBAR BIOS, you can quickly fix this and get picture again. However, for those of you with an XC3 card, you only get one BIOS, and it will likely lead to an RMA if CSM is not disabled. Note - It's true that you could run into some issues with booting into your OS or legacy hardware if you disable CSM. However, you can resolve those issues by re-enabling CSM. If you discover that you have an issue when you disable CSM, it's far better to learn what you need to do to fix those issues before you flash your card to an unrecoverable state. Plenty of people on this forum can help you figure out what you need to do to get your system ready for Resizable BAR. Lastly, some cards originally ship with a Resizable BAR BIOS, and newly built 30 Series cards will also ship with a Resizable BAR BIOS. The list of cards that began shipping with a ReBAR BIOS include: - EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 KPE HYDRO COPPER
- EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti (all cards)
- EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (all cards)
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Additional Notes: - For each XOC BIOS, I'm only going to post the ones with Resizable BAR. I don't currently have access to all the original XOC BIOS (thanks Jacob), and it would take time to procure them.
- If the included .exe files are not clear about which is the OC or the Normal BIOS for FTW3 cards, I will list which file is which.
BIOS Instructions (Windows Installation):- Disable Fast Boot in your motherboard BIOS
- Download the correct .zip file below for your graphics card below.
- Extract the files to a location on disk.
- Make sure no programs are running in the background, and double click Update.exe
- Press "Y" to begin the update.
- DO NOT TURN OFF POWER OR RESET DURING THE UPDATE PROCESS!
- After update, restart PC.
BIOS Flashes for EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti cardsThe EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 cards have an XOC BIOS to flash. Flash to the XOC version: Flash back to the default BIOS: BIOS Flashes for EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 cardsEVGA GeForce RTX 3090 Cards have several different versions. Please pay close attention to which cards you have before installing a BIOS. Although most of these BIOS versions won't cause problems if you flash between them, if you have a 3090OC card or a more newly manufactured 3090 FTW3, or 3090 FTW3 ULTRA, or 3090 FTW3 HYBRID card, then you already have the XOC BIOS on your OC switch. How to tell if you have a 3090 OC card and why it matters:
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Before flashing your BIOS, confirm which type of card you have. Because of some differences between the cards, flashing the wrong BIOS to your card could impact performance. Here's how to tell the difference: - You emailed EVGA Customer support using the 3090OC email, sent in your card for RMA, and received a new card as a replacement.
- You've more recently purchased an EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 card (FTW3/FTW3 ULTRA/HYBRID). Here's a couple ways to check:
- Move the BIOS Switch to OC, then check the BIOS via GPU-Z. If the maximum wattage is 500W, then you have a 3090OC card.
- Check the DeviceID in GPU-Z or PX1. If you see near the "3842", the 3090OC cards will say "3981" for FTW3, "3982" for FTW3 ULTRA, and "3983" for HYBRID.
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EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 HYDROCOPPER override BIOS - ReBAR ONLY
These BIOS are used to flash your your card back to the default HYDROCOPPER card. Don't flash these unless you've confirmed which type of card you have, (and you've already installed the card and configured your loop):
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From 3090OC Cards to : From non-HC BIOS - includes ReBAR - to:
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EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 HYBRID override BIOSThese BIOS are used to flash your regular 3090 FTW3/FTW3 ULTRA or 3090 XC3-based cards to act like a HYBRID card. Don't flash these unless you've confirmed which type of card you have, and whether you want a Resizable BAR BIOS:
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From 3090OC Cards to : From original FTW3/XC3 cards - includes ReBAR - to: From original FTW3/XC3 cards - without ReBAR - to:
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EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 Default BIOS override BIOSThese BIOS are essentially the means to flash back to your original card. Maybe you took off your HYBRID cooler, or want to update to a Resizable BAR BIOS, etc.; these BIOS versions will flash your card back to your previous model. Again, please confirm which card you have before flashing:
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Flash to the 3090OC BIOS (make sure you have a 3090OC card first...see above). Remember, the OC BIOS contains the XOC 500W BIOS: Flash to the XOC versions of the original FTW3/FTW3 Ultra/HYBRID cards (includes ReBAR): Flash to the ReBAR update for each EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 card: Flash to the stock BIOS version of the FTW3 and XC3 based cards:
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BIOS Flashes for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti cardsEVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti cards have only a few options, since they are shipped with the Resizable BAR BIOS. Also note that the 3080 Ti FTW3 cards are shipped with an "XOC" BIOS with a 450W power limit out of the box; simply switch over to the OC BIOS. EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti HYBRID override BIOSThese BIOS are used to flash your regular 3080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA or 3080 Ti XC3-based cards to act like a HYBRID card:
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From original 3080 Ti FTW3/XC3 cards - includes ReBAR - to:
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EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Default BIOS override BIOSThese BIOS are essentially the means to flash back to your original card. Maybe you took off your HYBRID cooler to go back to air, etc.; these BIOS versions will flash your card back to your previous model. Again, please confirm which card you have before flashing:
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Flash to the stock BIOS version of the FTW3 and XC3 based cards:
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BIOS Flashes for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 12GB cardsEVGA GeForce RTX 3080 12GB cards have only a few options, since they are shipped with the Resizable BAR BIOS and XOC BIOS. Please note that the 3080 12GB cards should not be flashed to 3080 10GB cards or 3080 Ti cards; the flash utility shouldn't let you, but it's better not to tempt fate. EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 12GB HYBRID override BIOSThese BIOS are used to flash your regular 3080 12GB FTW3 ULTRA or 3080 12GB XC3-based cards to act like a HYBRID card after you add your kit:
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From original 3080 12GB FTW3/XC3 cards - includes ReBAR/XOC - to:
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EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 12GB Default BIOS override BIOSThese BIOS are essentially the means to flash back to your original card after taking off your HYBRID cooler to go back to air, etc. Please confirm which card you have before flashing:
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Flash to the Stock BIOS version - includes ReBAR/XOC - to:
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BIOS Flashes for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 LHR cards (-KL / -KH / -RL suffix)EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 LHR Cards have several different versions. Please pay close attention to which cards you have before installing a BIOS, although most of these BIOS versions won't cause problems if you flash between them. All versions of the 3080 LHR cards carry the Resizable BAR BIOS.PSA#3: DON'T FLASH AN LHR CARD TO A NON-LHR BIOS. I KNOW YOU'RE THINKING IT. JUST.DON'T.EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 HYDROCOPPER LHR override BIOSThese BIOS are used to flash your card back to the default HYDROCOPPER card. Don't flash these unless you've confirmed which type of card you have (and you've already installed your HC block and configured your loop): EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 HYBRID LHR override BIOS (+HY XOC) These BIOS are used to flash your regular 3080 FTW3/FTW3 ULTRA or 3080 XC3-based LHR cards to act like a HYBRID card. Don't flash these unless you've confirmed which type of card you have:
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XOC version of 3080 FTW3 HYBRID LHR cards w/ Device ID [4898] only or 3080 FTW3 LHR [4897] only (check in PX1 or GPU-Z) - to: From original 3080 FTW3/XC3 LHR cards - to:
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EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Default BIOS override BIOS (+FTW3 XOC) These BIOS are essentially the means to flash back to your original non-HYBRID/non-HC card. Maybe you took off your HYBRID cooler, etc.; these BIOS versions will flash your card back to your previous model. Again, please confirm which card you have before flashing:
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Flash to the XOC versions of the 3080 FTW3/FTW3 Ultra/HYBRID LHR cards: Flash to the Stock BIOS version (contains ReBAR) for each EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 LHR card:
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BIOS Flashes for EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 cardsEVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Cards have several different versions. Please pay close attention to which cards you have before installing a BIOS. Although most of these BIOS versions won't cause problems if you flash between them. EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 HYDROCOPPER override BIOS - ReBAR ONLY
These BIOS are used to flash your card back to the default HYDROCOPPER BIOS. Don't flash these unless you've confirmed which type of card you have, (and you've already installed the card and configured your loop): EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 HYBRID override BIOSThese BIOS are used to flash your regular 3080 FTW3/FTW3 ULTRA or 3080 XC3-based cards to act like a HYBRID card. Don't flash these unless you've confirmed which type of card you have, and whether you want a Resizable BAR BIOS:
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From original FTW3/XC3 cards - includes ReBAR - to: From original FTW3/XC3 cards - without ReBAR - to:
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EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Default BIOS override BIOS (+HY and FTW3 XOC)
These BIOS are essentially the means to flash back to your original card. Maybe you took off your HYBRID cooler, or want to update to a Resizable BAR BIOS, etc.; these BIOS versions will flash your card back to your previous model. Again, please confirm which card you have before flashing: So there you have it. Way too much information. However, here are some additional threads that either contain some of the basic information or have much longer discussions about some of these BIOS versions:
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/24 01:06:13
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Hello, none of links related to " EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 HYBRID override BIOS" download works :-/ @EVGATech_LeeM could you please check it.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/24 04:39:16
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spider1701 Hello, none of links related to "EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 HYBRID override BIOS" download works :-/ @EVGATech_LeeM could you please check it.
It helps when you remember to upload the files. Thanks for checking and posting about it. Fixed now.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/24 06:51:03
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Confirmed... all seams to be OK now :-)
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/24 12:02:22
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Question, I just received my replacement 3090 FTW3 ultra. when using port royal to do testing, I am unable to get anywhere close to 500w? even after setting it to 119% in x1 precision or msi afterburner, it maxes out around 460-461w with a max of 110% TDP in gpuz.
what am i doing wrong? the old card I RMA'ed was able to hit 500w, and hit the target TDP of 119% but had really high pcie slot powerdraw. the new card has fixed the high pcie slot power draw, but unable to hit the target when in the OC switch position.
do I need to RMA this again?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/24 18:09:06
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@EVGATech_LeeM can you please post the BIOS links for the Hydro Copper cards just as you have for the air and hybrid cards? specifically looking for the ones for 3080ti XC3 Hydro Copper
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/24 18:52:44
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In the 3080 Ti spoiler list, you have 3090 mislabeled in there for the 3080 Ti air cooled cards.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/24 19:28:13
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gsrcrxsi @EVGATech_LeeM can you please post the BIOS links for the Hydro Copper cards just as you have for the air and hybrid cards? specifically looking for the ones for 3080ti XC3 Hydro Copper
I don't have them currently (for the 3080 Ti), but I've requested them. For the 30 Series, I only encourage people to use the HC BIOS if you actually have the HC card version. This is mainly due to different components used on these cards for the sole purpose to improve the way the blocks sit on the card (hence, this is reflected in the BIOS), and may not necessarily work on other card designs. Otherwise, there's no other reason to flash an HC BIOS to a non-HC card; unlike the situation with HYBRID BIOS, which utilizes a different fan scheme.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/24 19:28:33
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kram36 In the 3080 Ti spoiler list, you have 3090 mislabeled in there for the 3080 Ti air cooled cards.
Thanks. Fixed.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/24 19:34:30
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gsrcrxsi @EVGATech_LeeM can you please post the BIOS links for the Hydro Copper cards just as you have for the air and hybrid cards? specifically looking for the ones for 3080ti XC3 Hydro Copper
I don't have them currently (for the 3080 Ti), but I've requested them. For the 30 Series, I only encourage people to use the HC BIOS if you actually have the HC card version. This is mainly due to different components used on these cards for the sole purpose to improve the way the blocks sit on the card (hence, this is reflected in the BIOS), and may not necessarily work on other card designs. Otherwise, there's no other reason to flash an HC BIOS to a non-HC card; unlike the situation with HYBRID BIOS, which utilizes a different fan scheme.
So if someone bought a 3080 Ti Hydro Copper card and wanted to put the Hybrid kit on it, it wouldn't work? https://forums.evga.com/YES-You-can-replace-the-30803090-Hydro-copper-with-a-HybridAIO-kit-m3406152.aspx
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/24 20:14:21
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gsrcrxsi @EVGATech_LeeM can you please post the BIOS links for the Hydro Copper cards just as you have for the air and hybrid cards? specifically looking for the ones for 3080ti XC3 Hydro Copper
I don't have them currently (for the 3080 Ti), but I've requested them. For the 30 Series, I only encourage people to use the HC BIOS if you actually have the HC card version. This is mainly due to different components used on these cards for the sole purpose to improve the way the blocks sit on the card (hence, this is reflected in the BIOS), and may not necessarily work on other card designs. Otherwise, there's no other reason to flash an HC BIOS to a non-HC card; unlike the situation with HYBRID BIOS, which utilizes a different fan scheme.
So if someone bought a 3080 Ti Hydro Copper card and wanted to put the Hybrid kit on it, it wouldn't work? https://forums.evga.com/YES-You-can-replace-the-30803090-Hydro-copper-with-a-HybridAIO-kit-m3406152.aspx
*Sigh* Not recommended, but going from HC to HY won't cause physical damage if you are careful. Likewise, flashing the BIOS from HC to HY should be OK, but again, not recommended. We aren't selling the HC blocks this time around, but if you are going from an HY card (or any non-HC card, for that matter) to an HC card (maybe you grabbed someone's block off Ebay), there will be physical damage. No need to speculate about the BIOS. I suppose I should point out that since we aren't selling the HC blocks this time, we don't have an installation manual for how to put the waterblock back on.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 04:13:42
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gsrcrxsi @EVGATech_LeeM can you please post the BIOS links for the Hydro Copper cards just as you have for the air and hybrid cards? specifically looking for the ones for 3080ti XC3 Hydro Copper
I don't have them currently (for the 3080 Ti), but I've requested them. For the 30 Series, I only encourage people to use the HC BIOS if you actually have the HC card version. This is mainly due to different components used on these cards for the sole purpose to improve the way the blocks sit on the card (hence, this is reflected in the BIOS), and may not necessarily work on other card designs. Otherwise, there's no other reason to flash an HC BIOS to a non-HC card; unlike the situation with HYBRID BIOS, which utilizes a different fan scheme.
So if someone bought a 3080 Ti Hydro Copper card and wanted to put the Hybrid kit on it, it wouldn't work? https://forums.evga.com/YES-You-can-replace-the-30803090-Hydro-copper-with-a-HybridAIO-kit-m3406152.aspx
*Sigh* Not recommended, but going from HC to HY won't cause physical damage if you are careful. Likewise, flashing the BIOS from HC to HY should be OK, but again, not recommended. We aren't selling the HC blocks this time around, but if you are going from an HY card (or any non-HC card, for that matter) to an HC card (maybe you grabbed someone's block off Ebay), there will be physical damage. No need to speculate about the BIOS. I suppose I should point out that since we aren't selling the HC blocks this time, we don't have an installation manual for how to put the waterblock back on.
Great information to have. Thanks for the reply.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 08:27:41
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Changing my post* I updated the BIOS for the Hybrid 3080 FTW3. My X1 now says I have an 3080 FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID. I am also having issues with my fans revving up on their own, regardless of the curve I have set. When I launch a game like WoW, my radiator fans kick on to their highest RPM...
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 10:51:41
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Thank you so much @ EVGATech_LeeM for aggregating this information and posting!
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 11:02:34
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EVGATech_LeeM *Sigh* Not recommended, but going from HC to HY won't cause physical damage if you are careful. Likewise, flashing the BIOS from HC to HY should be OK, but again, not recommended. We aren't selling the HC blocks this time around, but if you are going from an HY card (or any non-HC card, for that matter) to an HC card (maybe you grabbed someone's block off Ebay), there will be physical damage. No need to speculate about the BIOS. I suppose I should point out that since we aren't selling the HC blocks this time, we don't have an installation manual for how to put the waterblock back on.
Hi Lee, could you expand on this a little more? Do the HC cards use a different PCB than the standard FTW3/XC3 versions, or is it just a matter of not having correct thermal pads or mounting hardware included if you grab a block off eBay?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 11:22:54
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vcast Do you leave Fast Boot off after you have flashed? Or do you turn it back on after you have updated BIOS? And is there more benefit to using ReBAR? I updated the default 3080 FTW3 Hybrid. Can I enable ReBAR now on the X1 page?
It's up to you whether to use Fast Boot or not. The main reason you want to turn it off is when you are making changes to your system or card that needs to be updated in Windows. Windows will update software information when there's a major change (like going from a 3080 to 3090), but Fast Boot will ignore minor changes (like an MCU or BIOS update). Here's a short primer when to have it on or off: When to have Fast Boot OFF: - When running Precision X1 for the first time after installing a new card or after flashing the BIOS
- Before you change from one 3080 to a different 3080
- Changing a 3080 XC3 to a 3080 FTW3, for example
- Changing cards after an RMA if it's the same GPU. Why?
- Because you sent us an XC3 card and we replaced it with an XC3 ULTRA card
- Because the MCU version might be different than your previous card
- Because you had a different switch enabled on the card you sent back to us for RMA
- Because you had a different BIOS version flashed to the card you sent back to us for RMA (e.g. FTW3 HYBRID on a non-HYBRID FTW3 card)
- When flashing a new BIOS
- When flashing a BIOS from one type of card to another (e.g. FTW3 to FTW3 HYBRID)
- When switching an FTW3 card or KPE card from one BIOS chip to a different chip (e.g. Normal -> OC)
When it's OK to have Fast Boot ON: - Depending on who you ask, never....But I digress....
- After rebooting (just to be safe) a second time after changing from one GPU to a different GPU - e.g. 3080 to 3090
- After rebooting (just to be safe) a second time after flashing your BIOS
- After rebooting (just to be safe) a second time after changing the BIOS switch on your FTW3 or KPE card
- But mostly, once you're sure that you've done trying out different BIOS versions and you've updated each BIOS chip on your card for a while
Basically, you can probably see a theme here. If there's a chance that Windows might ignore a software update to your BIOS or MCU, then it's best to have Fast Boot off. Otherwise, you can leave it on. Regarding Resizable BAR, I'll leave the debate to others about the benefits of it right now. However, once you've updated your BIOS to the FTW3, you should be able to use the Resizable BAR update download in PX1. Please observe the PSA's that we have about making sure to disable CSM first, however.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 11:22:59
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EVGATech_LeeM *Sigh* Not recommended, but going from HC to HY won't cause physical damage if you are careful. Likewise, flashing the BIOS from HC to HY should be OK, but again, not recommended. We aren't selling the HC blocks this time around, but if you are going from an HY card (or any non-HC card, for that matter) to an HC card (maybe you grabbed someone's block off Ebay), there will be physical damage. No need to speculate about the BIOS. I suppose I should point out that since we aren't selling the HC blocks this time, we don't have an installation manual for how to put the waterblock back on.
Hi Lee, could you expand on this a little more? Do the HC cards use a different PCB than the standard FTW3/XC3 versions, or is it just a matter of not having correct thermal pads or mounting hardware included if you grab a block off eBay?
it sounds like the PCB is the same, but some components were swapped out for smaller ones. maybe like a different kind of capacitor or other component in certain locations to be physically smaller to fit under the waterblock better. that's my interpretation.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 11:26:11
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EVGATech_LeeM *Sigh* Not recommended, but going from HC to HY won't cause physical damage if you are careful. Likewise, flashing the BIOS from HC to HY should be OK, but again, not recommended. We aren't selling the HC blocks this time around, but if you are going from an HY card (or any non-HC card, for that matter) to an HC card (maybe you grabbed someone's block off Ebay), there will be physical damage. No need to speculate about the BIOS. I suppose I should point out that since we aren't selling the HC blocks this time, we don't have an installation manual for how to put the waterblock back on.
Hi Lee, could you expand on this a little more? Do the HC cards use a different PCB than the standard FTW3/XC3 versions, or is it just a matter of not having correct thermal pads or mounting hardware included if you grab a block off eBay?
it sounds like the PCB is the same, but some components were swapped out for smaller ones. maybe like a different kind of capacitor or other component in certain locations to be physically smaller to fit under the waterblock better. that's my interpretation.
Yes, exactly. There's a row of capacitors that are swapped out for shorter ones to improve the way the block sits on the card. This has no effect on performance.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 11:27:40
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@ EVGATech_LeeM
Thank you for the info. I ran the BIOS for the 3080 FTW3 HYBRID, and I am now seeing that I have an ULTRA Hybrid in X1. Is this common for the FTW3 to show as an ULTRA after running the bios update? I have been troubleshooting an issue where my aio radiator fans with the hybrid rev up on their own when I am in a game. Regardless of fan control settings in X1, or if I close it and try to use Afterburner, my fans will rev to 100%.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 11:54:01
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vcast @EVGATech_LeeM
Thank you for the info. I ran the BIOS for the 3080 FTW3 HYBRID, and I am now seeing that I have an ULTRA Hybrid in X1. Is this common for the FTW3 to show as an ULTRA after running the bios update? I have been troubleshooting an issue where my aio radiator fans with the hybrid rev up on their own when I am in a game. Regardless of fan control settings in X1, or if I close it and try to use Afterburner, my fans will rev to 100%.
Technically, all the HYBRID cards in the 30 Series are considered "ULTRA", since they all are factory overclocked out of the box. Leaving aside that you can probably find some confusion on our marketing/naming on the products which don't necessarily say "ULTRA", there is only one version of each HYBRID card. Regarding the fan issues, I'll send you a PM.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 11:56:50
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Oh that's unfortunate, if a significant portion of the people buying these cards end up swapping for the hybrid it would be great if at least the nice blocks could be reused. Would I be correct in guessing that the replaced caps are the 2.5V polymer cans at the output of the VRMs? Did they get swapped to surface mount SP-caps or similar? I can't seem to find a shot of the HC PCB floating around.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 12:28:00
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Mr_Teal Oh that's unfortunate, if a significant portion of the people buying these cards end up swapping for the hybrid it would be great if at least the nice blocks could be reused. Would I be correct in guessing that the replaced caps are the 2.5V polymer cans at the output of the VRMs? Did they get swapped to surface mount SP-caps or similar? I can't seem to find a shot of the HC PCB floating around.
It's been a few weeks since I saw a side-by-side shot of the PCBs, but I believe it's the row of caps closest to the memory chips on both sides of the GPU (left/right). As you said, I believe these were swapped to surface mount SP-caps, but don't take that as gospel.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 15:43:03
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Is there going to be an XOC bios for the 3070 ti? I'm hitting power cap playing games at 1440p and it makes me sad
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/25 18:31:50
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Homeless2 Is there going to be an XOC bios for the 3070 ti? I'm hitting power cap playing games at 1440p and it makes me sad
I just got lucky enough to purchase an RTX 3070 Ti Ultra Gaming as well and I'd also love to know the answer to this.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/26 12:12:32
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Any news for the xoc bios for the 3080 ti?A lot of people are asking for it,it strange that evga is not planning for one...
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/26 15:32:45
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Good night, I have an EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA on the way and I understand that the bios that come are 450W. Is there something 500W for this graph? Thanks
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/27 19:33:32
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Can someone confirm that? The 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra comes with a 450w power limit from the factory on the default/normal BIOS?
Which software is most recommended to try and increase power? MSI Afterburner?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/27 20:23:11
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Will there be xoc bios for 3080 Ti? Hitting power limit on water. 500 or 520w would be nice.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/28 10:35:53
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Everyone is asking this,but Evga probably doesnt want to dump the only reason to burn more money for a 3090
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2021/06/28 10:41:21
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Edit: please clearly mention it's packaged to include both bios for dual bios cards. It's not obvious and if it is mentioned it's not clear enough to be easily noticed. This is a bit confusing for dual bios cards. Which bios is for which for the "normal" switch and which one is for the "OC" switch?
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