According to EVGA timestamp is 12:47 PM here, GMT+1
 
I have high hopes for this one.

Actually I think in EU region EVGA had a failure in 3060 launch day.
I was able to create an order for 3060 and I was able to choose quantity, but then I screwed up and lost my order chance (****)
What I want to say with that is that - yesterday there wasn`t any quantity restrictions for 12G-P5-3657-KR orders. However today on product page quantity disclaimer is placed.
 

alin_toaga
If so then we might not receive our notifications any time soon since I imagine they need to honor those orders first?!

I would assume (or at least I would hope) that they would contact the customer and inform them of their error and that they would only be able to receive one card? Either that or just completely cancel the orders that have more than one card and require the customer to re-order just the one. Either way, there are going to be unhappy people, but one of those options would lead to a LOT less unhappy people than if they just fulfilled orders of like 5 cards per person.

nomoss

nick_shl
What is the difference between  and ? Does it worth $60 difference?
I did not know of existing of cheapest card, so got only one notification and there no chance to got another any time soon 
12G-P5-3655-KR 2/25/2021 9:29:54AM No
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:03:28AM Yes

It's a heavy card, you're going to want that backplate.

lolwut? no it's not. it's a small 2-fan 2-slot model that's like 8" long.
 
the $60 (really like $75 with taxes) isn't worth it.

Yeah a 3060 for more than $329 is not good value. On the other hand stock is of course terrible across the board so people will often take what they can get.

The people here have been helpful so I'm leaving this question here for the hivemind.
 
A buddy of mine snagged an EVGA 3070 yesterday at BB (his first attempt so we don't have to like him). Everything went as we all know the texted verification etc. Well last night he got an email from "Best Buy" that is pretty sketchy and a little unprofessionally written. They had nearly all the data from the order and noted that it would be cancelled unless he called a (1-800) number and verified his address and other details (his address was in the shipping data on the e-mail). He called BB customer service which could only confirm if he had an order and the status (pending).
 
I've bought a card and a PS5 through BB without this (although a bit of a pain) and never got anything like this - he did have to create a BB account and everything right before the drop.
 
Anyone else had anything like this, he's on the fence if he's going to call cause he wants the card, then again he was thinking of calling and making sure not to give any sensitive data.

Flintheart Glomgold
The people here have been helpful so I'm leaving this question here for the hivemind.
 
A buddy of mine snagged an EVGA 3070 yesterday at BB (his first attempt so we don't have to like him). Everything went as we all know the texted verification etc. Well last night he got an email from "Best Buy" that is pretty sketchy and a little unprofessionally written. They had nearly all the data from the order and noted that it would be cancelled unless he called a (1-800) number and verified his address and other details (his address was in the shipping data on the e-mail). He called BB customer service which could only confirm if he had an order and the status (pending).
 
I've bought a card and a PS5 through BB without this (although a bit of a pain) and never got anything like this - he did have to create a BB account and everything right before the drop.
 
Anyone else had anything like this, he's on the fence if he's going to call cause he wants the card, then again he was thinking of calling and making sure not to give any sensitive data.

I would not call some random number and give out my data. sounds like a phishing expedition to get your personal info in order to redirect the shipment.
 
only call the official Best Buy customer service number(s). If they can't confirm that they sent this request, then don't believe it. If they confirm it, then have them transfer you or have them verify the number is legit.

philipma1957
So all 3060 every where are sold out even though the card was cripple to mine eth in its bios.
 
The problem is it was not crippled to mine Octopus which earns about $3.80 a day using 3-4 kwatts even with California high cost power. of 45 cents 3.80-1.80 = 2 bucks a day. so the card is free in 200 days.  Thus it sold out.
So nvidia did not fix the issue and is now helping a different algo/coin Octopus vs Eth.
 
My day yesterday it took 1 hour and 4 minutes to list for  the 2x 3060 here
1 hour on Best Buy to get nothing 
 
5 minutes to sign up for newegg's shuffle
1 minute to see I won and evga 3060 chance to buy.
4 minutes to check out and buy it for 438 with the tax.
 
so 2 hours and 15 minutes spent to get 1 card.
this one 
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3657-KR
 
at close to the correct price.
 
So these will not end the gpu shortage since miners will want a card that earns 3.80 a day for only 4 kwatts of power.
This card is  listing on ebay  for $899 and $998
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/...Dual-Fan/274697584121?
 
https://www.ebay.com/sch/...697421234&_sacat=0
 
 
So no help for gaming. But it at least looks as if Nvidia did something.
 
I will get to build a third pc  with a 3000 series card.
 
 

And around and around we go, The new 3060 were never going to be gaming only, THERE ARE TO MANY THINGS OUT THERE TO MINE. Nvidia made a token jester to the gaming community by "crippling the new 3060 for mining"  They released a new driver package yesterday that when installed affects the 3060ti mining as well I know I tested it on mine. Rolled the driver back and its fine and where it was before on my SINGLE 3060ti. The new 3060's were always going to be able to Mine one way or another they will never be able to cripple their cards in such a way as to kill mining with them and only allow gaming. So guess what Nvidia says "See how great we are and how much we care we are doing this for you to help you. We did it in the BIOS of the card (haha they will never know). We love you all and want what's best for you BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH" BS. And people are buying it, GPU Mining is always going to be a problem for brand new cards a lot of factors have led to the shortages we are now seeing yes Covid, yes issues at the factory's, yes silicone shortages, yes issues at the ports. Its all adding up to a major cluster** but it is what it is.
 
Blaming the mining community for buying cards like everyone else is absolutely not the right of it. Scalpers yes they are making things worse but they are the ones doing the bot buying of the cards and making them sell out so fast then selling on ebay for stupid prices. Thats not the miners. And saying its all because the miners they are doing is total BS. They are doing it because they have found ways to do it and because the last year there are a lot more people sitting at home on their computers finding ways to try to make ends meet. The scalpers are no different and they will continue to do this across all the retail stores. They do it on just about every item out there that's for sale.
 
So I am sorry you have such a bad taste in your mouth about Miners but they are not contributing as much to the issue you as you would like to believe. Some sure but so are the THOUSANDS of gamers trying to upgrade their cards, when there are thousands of cards on sale at EBAY by scalpers how is that the miners fault. The scalpers don't care who is buying the cards anymore than Nvidia does. Gamers are just as likely to pay the ridiculous prices they are charging as the miners are just a fact. 
 
The new 3060's sold out to scalpers and people that were lucky enough to get one before the scalpers got them all. That is how it is all the time. People taking advantage of the situation with the supply (Scalpers) is causing more issues then the miners. But I get it its easier to blame the miners and say oh poor me there is miner next door and he bought 4 cards from scalpers and 2 from a couple of different stores so he made it so I cant get a card. Ya unfortunately all I can say is ya it bought 6 cards that you didnt. He also paid more for those cards so of course he was able to get them. If you were willing to pay the prices on Ebay you would have a new card also but if your not (and I don't blame you for that) and I know I sure as hell wont buy one off ebay then we are stuck waiting in long queues hoping for the best. Passing blame to a group that ultimately is like everyone else just trying to make their money and take care of their own is not going to help the situation at all. 
 
So that being said for those that don't have cards I feel the pain as I am still trying to get cards for my kids computers and one of the hopefully new 3060's for my parents new computer. Will I be waiting most of this year probably but it is what it is. If you want your cards so badly they are available on EBAY if you don't care about cost. However the scalpers will get what they want the more people that buy them from them. Just how it is.
 
End of the Rant.

nomoss

gsrcrxsi

nomoss

nick_shl
What is the difference between  and ? Does it worth $60 difference?
I did not know of existing of cheapest card, so got only one notification and there no chance to got another any time soon 
12G-P5-3655-KR 2/25/2021 9:29:54AM No
12G-P5-3657-KR 2/25/2021 9:03:28AM Yes

It's a heavy card, you're going to want that backplate.

lolwut? no it's not. it's a small 2-fan 2-slot model that's like 8" long.
 
the $60 (really like $75 with taxes) isn't worth it.

It weighs over 2 pounds.  Enjoy your card sag, I guess.
Also I don't know of any state that charges 25% sales tax.  

Backplates don't do a whole lot for card sag and the 3060 isn't a great value past to begin with, much less once you start paying $389 or so for it.

stoney77788

philipma1957
So all 3060 every where are sold out even though the card was cripple to mine eth in its bios.
 
The problem is it was not crippled to mine Octopus which earns about $3.80 a day using 3-4 kwatts even with California high cost power. of 45 cents 3.80-1.80 = 2 bucks a day. so the card is free in 200 days.  Thus it sold out.
So nvidia did not fix the issue and is now helping a different algo/coin Octopus vs Eth.
 
My day yesterday it took 1 hour and 4 minutes to list for  the 2x 3060 here
1 hour on Best Buy to get nothing 
 
5 minutes to sign up for newegg's shuffle
1 minute to see I won and evga 3060 chance to buy.
4 minutes to check out and buy it for 438 with the tax.
 
so 2 hours and 15 minutes spent to get 1 card.
this one 
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3657-KR
 
at close to the correct price.
 
So these will not end the gpu shortage since miners will want a card that earns 3.80 a day for only 4 kwatts of power.
This card is  listing on ebay  for $899 and $998
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/...Dual-Fan/274697584121?
 
https://www.ebay.com/sch/...697421234&_sacat=0
 
 
So no help for gaming. But it at least looks as if Nvidia did something.
 
I will get to build a third pc  with a 3000 series card.
 
 

And around and around we go, The new 3060 were never going to be gaming only, THERE ARE TO MANY THINGS OUT THERE TO MINE. Nvidia made a token jester to the gaming community by "crippling the new 3060 for mining"  They released a new driver package yesterday that when installed affects the 3060ti mining as well I know I tested it on mine. Rolled the driver back and its fine and where it was before on my SINGLE 3060ti. The new 3060's were always going to be able to Mine one way or another they will never be able to cripple their cards in such a way as to kill mining with them and only allow gaming. So guess what Nvidia says "See how great we are and how much we care we are doing this for you to help you. We did it in the BIOS of the card (haha they will never know). We love you all and want what's best for you BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH" BS. And people are buying it, GPU Mining is always going to be a problem for brand new cards a lot of factors have led to the shortages we are now seeing yes Covid, yes issues at the factory's, yes silicone shortages, yes issues at the ports. Its all adding up to a major cluster** but it is what it is.
 
Blaming the mining community for buying cards like everyone else is absolutely not the right of it. Scalpers yes they are making things worse but they are the ones doing the bot buying of the cards and making them sell out so fast then selling on ebay for stupid prices. Thats not the miners. And saying its all because the miners they are doing is total BS. They are doing it because they have found ways to do it and because the last year there are a lot more people sitting at home on their computers finding ways to try to make ends meet. The scalpers are no different and they will continue to do this across all the retail stores. They do it on just about every item out there that's for sale.
 
So I am sorry you have such a bad taste in your mouth about Miners but they are not contributing as much to the issue you as you would like to believe. Some sure but so are the THOUSANDS of gamers trying to upgrade their cards, when there are thousands of cards on sale at EBAY by scalpers how is that the miners fault. The scalpers don't care who is buying the cards anymore than Nvidia does. Gamers are just as likely to pay the ridiculous prices they are charging as the miners are just a fact. 
 
The new 3060's sold out to scalpers and people that were lucky enough to get one before the scalpers got them all. That is how it is all the time. People taking advantage of the situation with the supply (Scalpers) is causing more issues then the miners. But I get it its easier to blame the miners and say oh poor me there is miner next door and he bought 4 cards from scalpers and 2 from a couple of different stores so he made it so I cant get a card. Ya unfortunately all I can say is ya it bought 6 cards that you didnt. He also paid more for those cards so of course he was able to get them. If you were willing to pay the prices on Ebay you would have a new card also but if your not (and I don't blame you for that) and I know I sure as hell wont buy one off ebay then we are stuck waiting in long queues hoping for the best. Passing blame to a group that ultimately is like everyone else just trying to make their money and take care of their own is not going to help the situation at all. 
 
So that being said for those that don't have cards I feel the pain as I am still trying to get cards for my kids computers and one of the hopefully new 3060's for my parents new computer. Will I be waiting most of this year probably but it is what it is. If you want your cards so badly they are available on EBAY if you don't care about cost. However the scalpers will get what they want the more people that buy them from them. Just how it is.
 
End of the Rant.

Maybe that's true from your point of view, however I disagree, miners are a significant part of the problem for people like me. I've been trying for just one card, JUST ONE, for over 5 months. When report after report after report shows miners hoarding hundreds if not thousands of cards at a time, and those cards will not be nearly as valuable after the miners are done with them reducing their lifespan but years. 

sturm375

stoney77788

philipma1957
So all 3060 every where are sold out even though the card was cripple to mine eth in its bios.
 
The problem is it was not crippled to mine Octopus which earns about $3.80 a day using 3-4 kwatts even with California high cost power. of 45 cents 3.80-1.80 = 2 bucks a day. so the card is free in 200 days.  Thus it sold out.
So nvidia did not fix the issue and is now helping a different algo/coin Octopus vs Eth.
 
My day yesterday it took 1 hour and 4 minutes to list for  the 2x 3060 here
1 hour on Best Buy to get nothing 
 
5 minutes to sign up for newegg's shuffle
1 minute to see I won and evga 3060 chance to buy.
4 minutes to check out and buy it for 438 with the tax.
 
so 2 hours and 15 minutes spent to get 1 card.
this one 
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3657-KR
 
at close to the correct price.
 
So these will not end the gpu shortage since miners will want a card that earns 3.80 a day for only 4 kwatts of power.
This card is  listing on ebay  for $899 and $998
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/...Dual-Fan/274697584121?
 
https://www.ebay.com/sch/...697421234&_sacat=0
 
 
So no help for gaming. But it at least looks as if Nvidia did something.
 
I will get to build a third pc  with a 3000 series card.
 
 

And around and around we go, The new 3060 were never going to be gaming only, THERE ARE TO MANY THINGS OUT THERE TO MINE. Nvidia made a token jester to the gaming community by "crippling the new 3060 for mining"  They released a new driver package yesterday that when installed affects the 3060ti mining as well I know I tested it on mine. Rolled the driver back and its fine and where it was before on my SINGLE 3060ti. The new 3060's were always going to be able to Mine one way or another they will never be able to cripple their cards in such a way as to kill mining with them and only allow gaming. So guess what Nvidia says "See how great we are and how much we care we are doing this for you to help you. We did it in the BIOS of the card (haha they will never know). We love you all and want what's best for you BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH" BS. And people are buying it, GPU Mining is always going to be a problem for brand new cards a lot of factors have led to the shortages we are now seeing yes Covid, yes issues at the factory's, yes silicone shortages, yes issues at the ports. Its all adding up to a major cluster** but it is what it is.
 
Blaming the mining community for buying cards like everyone else is absolutely not the right of it. Scalpers yes they are making things worse but they are the ones doing the bot buying of the cards and making them sell out so fast then selling on ebay for stupid prices. Thats not the miners. And saying its all because the miners they are doing is total BS. They are doing it because they have found ways to do it and because the last year there are a lot more people sitting at home on their computers finding ways to try to make ends meet. The scalpers are no different and they will continue to do this across all the retail stores. They do it on just about every item out there that's for sale.
 
So I am sorry you have such a bad taste in your mouth about Miners but they are not contributing as much to the issue you as you would like to believe. Some sure but so are the THOUSANDS of gamers trying to upgrade their cards, when there are thousands of cards on sale at EBAY by scalpers how is that the miners fault. The scalpers don't care who is buying the cards anymore than Nvidia does. Gamers are just as likely to pay the ridiculous prices they are charging as the miners are just a fact. 
 
The new 3060's sold out to scalpers and people that were lucky enough to get one before the scalpers got them all. That is how it is all the time. People taking advantage of the situation with the supply (Scalpers) is causing more issues then the miners. But I get it its easier to blame the miners and say oh poor me there is miner next door and he bought 4 cards from scalpers and 2 from a couple of different stores so he made it so I cant get a card. Ya unfortunately all I can say is ya it bought 6 cards that you didnt. He also paid more for those cards so of course he was able to get them. If you were willing to pay the prices on Ebay you would have a new card also but if your not (and I don't blame you for that) and I know I sure as hell wont buy one off ebay then we are stuck waiting in long queues hoping for the best. Passing blame to a group that ultimately is like everyone else just trying to make their money and take care of their own is not going to help the situation at all. 
 
So that being said for those that don't have cards I feel the pain as I am still trying to get cards for my kids computers and one of the hopefully new 3060's for my parents new computer. Will I be waiting most of this year probably but it is what it is. If you want your cards so badly they are available on EBAY if you don't care about cost. However the scalpers will get what they want the more people that buy them from them. Just how it is.
 
End of the Rant.

Maybe that's true from your point of view, however I disagree, miners are a significant part of the problem for people like me. I've been trying for just one card, JUST ONE, for over 5 months. When report after report after report shows miners hoarding hundreds if not thousands of cards at a time, and those cards will not be nearly as valuable after the miners are done with them reducing their lifespan but years. 

You seem to be referring to large scale miners who buy directly from Nvidia and AIBs. Sounds like you need to take it up with them for selling directly to large scale miners. Most cards run by these farms are well taken care of with the fans being the main point of failure. Underpowered to reduce power consumption, given plenty of airflow to keep temps down, and kept clean.
 
Smaller scale miners are in the same boat as you or are buying from scalpers. Simply because you had to wait 5 months doesn't mean others haven't. No point in attacking small scale miners unless you have an issue with system builders as well.

sturm375
 
Maybe that's true from your point of view, however I disagree, miners are a significant part of the problem for people like me. I've been trying for just one card, JUST ONE, for over 5 months. When report after report after report shows miners hoarding hundreds if not thousands of cards at a time, and those cards will not be nearly as valuable after the miners are done with them reducing their lifespan but years. 

Why only pick on the miners? Graphic artists, animators, and video editors also use the card for non-gaming purposes. My company (and I will not share where for obvious reasons) will allow a purchase of a card be expensed for some employees - so they can get it for free really.
 
Gamers are not the only one entitled to video cards.

nomoss
It weighs over 2 pounds.  Enjoy your card sag, I guess.
Also I don't know of any state that charges 25% sales tax.  

2lbs is not a lot. but even still most of the weight is on the slot itself since it's a small/short card. longer cards are more subject to sag than short cards. My 3070 black (which is longer, heavier, and also no backplate) doesn't have much sag. the 3060 will have less.
 

I got these yesterday:
 
12G-P5-3655-KR     2/25/2021 9:01:40 AM PT    Yes    
12G-P5-3657-KR     2/25/2021 9:01:27 AM PT    Yes
 
Some friends will be happy next week :)

Flintheart Glomgold

sturm375
 
Maybe that's true from your point of view, however I disagree, miners are a significant part of the problem for people like me. I've been trying for just one card, JUST ONE, for over 5 months. When report after report after report shows miners hoarding hundreds if not thousands of cards at a time, and those cards will not be nearly as valuable after the miners are done with them reducing their lifespan but years. 

Why only pick on the miners? Graphic artists, animators, and video editors also use the card for non-gaming purposes. My company (and I will not share where for obvious reasons) will allow a purchase of a card be expensed for some employees - so they can get it for free really.
 
Gamers are not the only one entitled to video cards.

I honestly don't understand where this sense of entitlement stems from. Next they will demand that GAMING CPUS GO TO GAMERS.