SirKronanBut to NOT acknowledge that at least some of the demand is ONLY CREATED IN ORDER TO MAKE MORE DEMAND is choosing to be blind to the facts. That's the demand that is frustrating, and that's the demand that is "artificial" demand.

SirKronanEven miners create.

nick_shl
No, their just waste electricity that is very bad for environment! Cryptocurrency - is a religion. Value is based only on believe. Nothing else.

Jpizzy
Regardless of how emotional and frustrated you are about not being able to purchase the GPU that you want, the fact remains that people will act in rational self interest. Sure, I would prefer that people would act in an economically irrational manner (oh look, I bought an extra GPU that I don't need anymore... I'll just list it on ebay for what I purchased it for... $1300 less than what I could get for it at current 3rd party market rates... THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN), that's just not realistic. Sure, it is frustrating, but scalpers do serve a purpose, whether right or wrong in your or anyone else's opinion it's just not the purpose that benefits you. If someone needs a GPU, they are going to purchase the GPU regardless of the cost (you could always start mining and justify the cost), it just happens that you are on the opposite side of the market. It would be great in a perfect world if 'scalpers' were not allowed to thrive, but it is a product of market forces and literally basic supply and demand. 
 
Attempts to 'ban' or restrict 3rd party sellers is a slippery slope.. where does it end? I could be considered a scalper for trying to sell my extra 1080 TI for $50 more than I bought it for 2 years ago? Or could I just be trying to get as much as I can to put towards a 3090 that I need for my work regardless of the cost? What if I had some left over parts again because I decided to not finish my 3rd build and wanted to sell them new, unopened in box? There is no way to try to 'ban' or restrict 3rd party sellers and even if that happened there would just be another site pop up overnight where people could sell their items. Just about like anything else, litigation usually only targets the first layer of the issue, and creates several more issues in it's wake.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Jpizzy

Urobulus
What is the price we are paying for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra if we are in the queue since the beginning? I do not remember what the price was before they raised it on the website.

EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING, 10G-P5-3897-KR, 10GB GDDR6X, iCX3 Technology, ARGB LED, Metal Backplate
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*Accessories shown in the images above are subject to change without notice.

P/N: 10G-P5-3897-KROUT OF STOCK

LIMIT 1 PER HOUSEHOLD. $809^.99

Bora1114

Urobulus
Amazing how cocky you are Bora. You seem to know everything about everything.

Calling me cocky doesn't make you get a GPU faster. Next I will be called arrogant for asking someone to do research on the world being round. 

static.quai

Bora1114
 
 
Should I trust in economics or the opinions of frustrated individuals online?

If you think trusting economics is equivalent to condoning wild cash grabs looking to exploit the typical consumer - and thereby denying consumers the ability to buy a product from a legitimate retailer, I would suggest you trust the opinions of frustrated individuals online.  For sure the way to curb it is to simply not buy from these third party sources, but there are people who cannot use a computer without a gpu (no discrete graphics).  Another way to curb it is to stop spouting armchair economics to justify exploitative behavior.

Adiyaaa1234567
some dude got an 3080 ftw ultra on twitter