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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/16 21:28:35 (permalink)
Seems to fit.  

I will try to design the chipset for compression fittings since some folks are obsessed with them.  Can someone take an OD measurement of their compression fittings?  I had one laying around for that sole purpose, but I am not sure where it went.  A nice set of calipers would help to get an accurate measurement
 
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/16 22:08:16 (permalink)
WOW, this is something else, completely.
No matter what people say I like normal, not painted caps.

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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/16 22:53:29 (permalink)
monsoon are pretty popular and are a touch on the large side. if you need caliper quality measurements let me know and I contact them. they are a 2 family business so pretty good customer support. the link has measurements.

http://www.frozencpu.com/....html?tl=c703s2230b213
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 04:03:52 (permalink)
so 0.625 OD?  I can work with that.  I will even go so far as to add a bit more.  Perhaps 0.75?  Lets see how it works out.
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 04:48:27 (permalink)
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so 0.625 OD?  I can work with that.  I will even go so far as to add a bit more.  Perhaps 0.75?  Lets see how it works out.


.75 would probably support even the most beefy of fittings.
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 07:10:22 (permalink)
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WOW, this is something else, completely.
No matter what people say I like normal, not painted caps.


huh?
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 07:38:47 (permalink)
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WOW, this is something else, completely.
No matter what people say I like normal, not painted caps.


huh?


vlada is eastern european, correct me if I am wrong.

think he was saying that your water block is nice. Also he prefers the unpainted capacitors (caps) more than the painted ones to look black. or I could be wrong.
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 08:03:56 (permalink)
Yeah, he is talking about how some companies paint the capacitors black.

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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 08:37:15 (permalink)
Caps are mostly an obstacle for me to design around.  But as a user, lots of caps are great!  Don't really care what color they are.
 
So I just confirmed the paper prototypes fit perfectly:

It will require using one of the motherboard standoffs.  It will be a solid mount since (A) its going to a motherboard standoff, and (B) the inlets are mostly within the triangle the mounting screws.
 
 

here is a view of the space between the second PCI-E card and traditional bitspower fittings.  I think its hard to see, but if you draw a line parallel to the PCI-E slot, the widest part of the inlet is tangent to the release arm.  So that leaves enough room I think.  Its a simple fix if it isn't enough room.  Probably won't be compatible with the EVGA Hydrocopper video cards since they are so much thicker then traditional GPU blocks.
 
As I see it now, the design process is done.  Just waiting on some machine time to make one.  I will probably go right into production since this paper version is spot on, and there really isn't much to these blocks.  They are very simple and that will translate to cheaper for everyone.
 
Now, aside from the boards owner... who wants in?
 
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 08:45:39 (permalink)
The chipset will be the same for both the 997 & 999 models.  but the VREG block will be slightly different.
Checking into the Micro X99 now.
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 09:33:10 (permalink)
You know I am in... What kind of question was that?

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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 09:56:18 (permalink)
Updated main post.  FTW Vreg done
 
 
Topside:

 
Underside:

 
The chipset for the Classy version looks like it will fit the  FTW.  Let me double check first though.
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 10:13:19 (permalink)
Nope.  FTW needs a different chipset block.  Here is why.  The motherboard standoff hole is in a different spot:

 
in reality the chipset mounting holes are in a different spot since motherboard mounting holes are a fixed item.  Back to the drawing board for a new chipset block for the FTW (995)
 
edit:  im all screwed up. The X99 CLASSY CHIPSET WILL fit the FTW board.  It will NOT fit the micro.  The pic is the MICRO's dimensions (designing that as we speak)
 
So  there will be a X99 Classy Vreg, a X99 FTW Vreg, a CLASSY/FTW chipset, an X99 MICRO Chipset and I am still seeking compatibility with the FTW VREG to fit on the Micro
post edited by nateman_doo - 2014/09/17 10:41:39
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 10:34:17 (permalink)
They Look Great as usual Nate, But Unfortunately with the inlet and outlet being between the first an second PCIe slot, I would not be able to use a Hydro Copper or Stock Air Cooling Graphics Card, Only the Thin aftermarket FC water blocks would work, Which BTW I am in the process of selling my four K|ngp|n/EK WB's and moving on to trying other different Graphics Options with my X99 System.
 
I may even go to a different X99 MB, So I will have to postpone obtaining this to wait and see what I end up with.

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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 10:43:02 (permalink)
yea, they hydro copper are very thick. 
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 11:35:11 (permalink)
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They Look Great as usual Nate, But Unfortunately with the inlet and outlet being between the first an second PCIe slot, I would not be able to use a Hydro Copper or Stock Air Cooling Graphics Card, Only the Thin aftermarket FC water blocks would work, Which BTW I am in the process of selling my four K|ngp|n/EK WB's and moving on to trying other different Graphics Options with my X99 System.
 
I may even go to a different X99 MB, So I will have to postpone obtaining this to wait and see what I end up with.


Selling the KPE's?  Kinda surprised, those cards are beastly.
 
Why sell the X99 board, it is a very solid competitor?
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 11:37:30 (permalink)
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Caps are mostly an obstacle for me to design around.  But as a user, lots of caps are great!  Don't really care what color they are.
 
So I just confirmed the paper prototypes fit perfectly:

It will require using one of the motherboard standoffs.  It will be a solid mount since (A) its going to a motherboard standoff, and (B) the inlets are mostly within the triangle the mounting screws.
 
 

here is a view of the space between the second PCI-E card and traditional bitspower fittings.  I think its hard to see, but if you draw a line parallel to the PCI-E slot, the widest part of the inlet is tangent to the release arm.  So that leaves enough room I think.  Its a simple fix if it isn't enough room.  Probably won't be compatible with the EVGA Hydrocopper video cards since they are so much thicker then traditional GPU blocks.
 
As I see it now, the design process is done.  Just waiting on some machine time to make one.  I will probably go right into production since this paper version is spot on, and there really isn't much to these blocks.  They are very simple and that will translate to cheaper for everyone.
 
Now, aside from the boards owner... who wants in?
 




Nate, block idea looks good, but, I think you will have a really rough time fitting anything newer/bigger than a 580 in there.  That is a TIGHT fit.  Shame you don't have a modern hydro card, or 2, to test with, and no that wasn't me volunteering mine lol.
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 11:51:52 (permalink)
you know.. I was JUST about to say it until I got to the end of the sentence.  Feel free to send an RMA card or something just laying around.  Then I could test anything. 
 
SO... I have confused even myself with these 3 boards.  The good news is, I have a block for ALL THREE BOARDS designed.  I drew up a "master list" so to speak using my years of MS-Paint-FU skills.  Since a picture is worth a thousand words, here she is:

 
This is the final block in the X99 series.  The chipset block for the Micro:

 
 
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 12:07:39 (permalink)
Look's awesome nateman. Soon were going to have to request more sig space for you so you can keep listing your new creations. I'm still looking forward to the hopefully eventual completion of your air cooled water block.


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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 12:19:13 (permalink)
At this point the easy part is done.  Now I have to figure out fixture plates, how to arrange them, how many to make in a batch, how to arrange the raw materials etc....
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 13:01:46 (permalink)
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They Look Great as usual Nate, But Unfortunately with the inlet and outlet being between the first an second PCIe slot, I would not be able to use a Hydro Copper or Stock Air Cooling Graphics Card, Only the Thin aftermarket FC water blocks would work, Which BTW I am in the process of selling my four K|ngp|n/EK WB's and moving on to trying other different Graphics Options with my X99 System.
 
I may even go to a different X99 MB, So I will have to postpone obtaining this to wait and see what I end up with.


Selling the KPE's?  Kinda surprised, those cards are beastly.
 
Why sell the X99 board, it is a very solid competitor?




I'm Selling the KPE's and just going to try some other components in which I probably won't involve 4-Way SLI for awhile, But Don't Quote Me on That! LOL!
 
I'll still be testing with the EVGA X99 Classified and hoping there will be another BIOS update soon for helping with 2800+ Memory and "Experimenting" as I always have in the past.

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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/17 14:38:57 (permalink)
nateman I just looked at page 1. it seems like you have got designs for the classy/ftw/micro already. EVGA should jist give you a job already or something.
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/18 09:40:19 (permalink)
I agree they look great. I also agree evga need to book u up with some cards so u can better test what fits and what doesn't. I would also love to see evga sell these as an aftermarket kit for their x99 (z97 wishfull thinking). So my question is when is evga going to start helping u out here. I'm sure there is a demand for such a product.
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/18 10:13:44 (permalink)
I don't see why EVGA can't just send him a dud card that can just be used for fitting purposes?  The blocks however look AWESOME, I wish I had the $$$ to upgrade to the x99, if I did I would have volunteered my GTX 780s .



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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/18 11:41:49 (permalink)
nateman do you need or want a micro for test fitting purposes? If so PM me and I'll get mine sent your way.


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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/18 12:24:20 (permalink)
Zophar, That might not be necessary. I am still gathering my thoughts on how to best approach this.
 
BUT.. the good news, is I just secured a HUGE slab of aluminum to make fixture plates for ALL 4 new projects I am working on (Z97 Stinger, & these 3 blocks)  I will walk you guys through the ridiculous process of a fixture plate. when my machine free's up.
 
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I agree they look great. I also agree evga need to book u up with some cards so u can better test what fits and what doesn't. I would also love to see evga sell these as an aftermarket kit for their x99 (z97 wishfull thinking). So my question is when is evga going to start helping u out here. I'm sure there is a demand for such a product.

EVGA has never done wrong by me.  Both as a user of their products, and in the block fabrication.  I can't speak highly enough about them (except they wake up long after I do... damn Pacific time).  As for a job?  neh, Im an east coast kinda guy.  I already have 2 jobs... 3 if you count this.  I just do it for fun, with what little spare time I have.
 
Oh yea... and I changed the Classy block Vreg to look more like the other Vreg.  I thought it looked more symmetrical and gave 6 screws keeping it together, rather then 5. 
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/18 13:17:31 (permalink)
right on, you know where to find me if you do need it.


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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/18 14:30:42 (permalink)
nateman: I measured my compreasion fittings. .625 is the diameter of the tubing. the diameter of the compression fitting is close to 24mm or .94in. if you want I can route some of my new compressions to your address and you can keep 2. It was cheaper to buy a pack of 6 than 4 seperate ones...plus I needed a new tool that comes with the 6.
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/18 17:35:16 (permalink)
Still shouldn't be a problem.  But I will know more when I actually start making them, and people with backplates start yelling at me :(
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Re: EVGA X99 Classified Waterblock *sketches up* 2014/09/18 17:40:58 (permalink)
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Still shouldn't be a problem.  But I will know more when I actually start making them, and people with backplates start yelling at me :(


lol do you want these compressions? May make things easier in the future for you.
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