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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/17 15:12:33 (permalink)
 
Sorry EVGA, but I just ordered an ASUS Rampage IV Formula x79 motherboard.
 
I feel kinda dirty (and not in a good way). My first non-EVGA board for many years.
 
I will still be running my 2 x EVGA GTX-680 FTW+ 4GB cards in there, but I will miss the pulsing EVGA logo.
 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/17 15:31:13 (permalink)
I know people getting Unpatient but the hell will I not wait and buy the Extreme11? or will I kick myself in the A@@ when the board comes out and its a killer    

 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/17 15:34:53 (permalink)
 
Tell ya what, if the EVGA x79 Dark comes out and it has no issues and receives huge accolades, I would consider selling the RIVF and coming back to EVGA because I've had such an awesome trouble-free history with EVGA.. but those reviews would have to be damn good, and well-tested.
 
 


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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/18 05:51:22 (permalink)
I removed the avatar, it came from a game. Sorry if i offended anyone.

 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/20 17:21:07 (permalink)
did my prelimenary build list and budget with both the x79 Dark and the Asus RIVE/R5E?  May the best board win

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/20 18:03:54 (permalink)
I'm waiting :)

 

 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/21 04:03:17 (permalink)
...I'm waiting as well...
 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/21 08:18:53 (permalink)
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...I'm waiting as well...

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I'm waiting :)



Still waiting here to...


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/21 10:04:16 (permalink)
I noticed Jacob, you answered the question of when the board SHOULD be available June at the latest but had no reply to my politely written question to what happens to we, the owners of unfixable SLI, FTW, & Classified boards? As I say yet AGAIN 3 RMAs with minor uncorrectable problems BUT when you add all the minor problems together it equals a pain, add the hassle of 3 RMAs, AND the time and effort to rip apart my machine 4 or more times? I think I deserve at least a comment saying its being looked at, no decisions have been made yet, something will be done, etc. etc. I do not think I am asking a lot and Evga has always treated me well as I say YET again, but my issues are not fixable and I am tired of RMAs etc. I want a 100% working board! 
 
Also keep in mind EVEN with a new board I STILL have to rip my machine apart and rebuild again and you know what? That joy at building your new machine is gone after the 4-5 time around on the same series of CPUs... 
 
I JUST want to know if Evga is going to be there for me to help me when I have real issues and I am NOT making stuff up! I mean Evga upgraded my SLI to a FTW, so who am I to complain, EXCEPT neither one worked 100% (First SLI was DOA out of the box) and that is wrong no matter how you slice it... I mean I am NOT looking for something for nothing, though that would be nice, I JUST want to hear there is hope since you have PUBLICLY acknowledged that there is a PHYSICAL issue with USB 3.0 and there are still Memory issues etc. Jonny Utah says it best and knows FAR more than I do! His posts say it all as far as all the issues that should NOT be there...
Again thanks for reading Jacob!

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/21 11:43:33 (permalink)
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I noticed Jacob, you answered the question of when the board SHOULD be available June at the latest but had no reply to my politely written question to what happens to we, the owners of unfixable SLI, FTW, & Classified boards? As I say yet AGAIN 3 RMAs with minor uncorrectable problems BUT when you add all the minor problems together it equals a pain, add the hassle of 3 RMAs, AND the time and effort to rip apart my machine 4 or more times? I think I deserve at least a comment saying its being looked at, no decisions have been made yet, something will be done, etc. etc. I do not think I am asking a lot and Evga has always treated me well as I say YET again, but my issues are not fixable and I am tired of RMAs etc. I want a 100% working board! 

Also keep in mind EVEN with a new board I STILL have to rip my machine apart and rebuild again and you know what? That joy at building your new machine is gone after the 4-5 time around on the same series of CPUs... 

I JUST want to know if Evga is going to be there for me to help me when I have real issues and I am NOT making stuff up! I mean Evga upgraded my SLI to a FTW, so who am I to complain, EXCEPT neither one worked 100% (First SLI was DOA out of the box) and that is wrong no matter how you slice it... I mean I am NOT looking for something for nothing, though that would be nice, I JUST want to hear there is hope since you have PUBLICLY acknowledged that there is a PHYSICAL issue with USB 3.0 and there are still Memory issues etc. Jonny Utah says it best and knows FAR more than I do! His posts say it all as far as all the issues that should NOT be there...
Again thanks for reading Jacob!

 
your beaten on a dead horse here. EVGA is not going to take responsibility for the first gen X79 boards.
 
The reason they don't have to is because there are a lot of other people out there that are running these boards without a hitch.
 

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/21 13:45:30 (permalink)
A lot!


 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/21 17:17:25 (permalink)
Then it shouldn't be a problem to take care of the few that HAVE issues RIGHT?

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/21 17:39:19 (permalink)
nice mb love it
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/21 22:35:24 (permalink)
KimbaWLion

Then it shouldn't be a problem to take care of the few that HAVE issues RIGHT?

There would probably be a lot of people that pretend to have issues in order to get the X79 Dark. 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/21 23:33:28 (permalink)
Possibly but at the same time they know who has had multiple RMA's.

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/22 06:04:58 (permalink)
Yes they do who know has had multiple RMAs... I am LONG on record, and EVEN their Tech support has told me they can't fix my issues, so what I am to do? The board DOES work at 90-95% JUST not 100%. I had them log it in the notes they keep too. They have admitted to me they have no reason why the ALL the XMP profiles do not work etc. etc. It's not me.  
 
This is also not my first MB with them and they always have treated me fairly. To me this simple, they will make people who have a TRACK record of issues some sort of deal or not. As dustingg said I am beating a dead horse as I have very strong sense of right and wrong. Jacob ADMITTED hardware issues so its NOT me, so there you have it. I await the  possibility that nothing will be done for anybody that has/had real issues AND all my time spent, that SOME here make so light of... My calm rant is over...

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/22 10:37:55 (permalink)
I feel ya kimbawlion. I've had 3 RMA's also, USB3 just does not work.. Here's to hoping they'll do us right..   I ended up buying 2 usb3 cards and i'm ok now. BUT i should not have had to do that in order to get my system running with working usb3 ports.

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/22 15:47:57 (permalink)
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Yes they do who know has had multiple RMAs... I am LONG on record, and EVEN their Tech support has told me they can't fix my issues, so what I am to do? The board DOES work at 90-95% JUST not 100%. I had them log it in the notes they keep too. They have admitted to me they have no reason why the ALL the XMP profiles do not work etc. etc. It's not me.  

This is also not my first MB with them and they always have treated me fairly. To me this simple, they will make people who have a TRACK record of issues some sort of deal or not. As dustingg said I am beating a dead horse as I have very strong sense of right and wrong. Jacob ADMITTED hardware issues so its NOT me, so there you have it. I await the  possibility that nothing will be done for anybody that has/had real issues AND all my time spent, that SOME here make so light of... My calm rant is over...

You probably already tried most of these settings,  though i use the settings listed below along with the Asmedia driver v1.14.3.0 from station-drivers and all my Usb 3.0 ports work fine.  It seems like theres a batch of specific problematic boards because i purchased my X79 FTW from newegg on 01/01/2013 and the box had multiple cuts over the sides, it had an SR-X driver cd, one of the Evga seal stickers was cut while it was still under the shrink wrap   I never did RMA it though because everything was working, i think the box was opened and re sealed to apply some sort of fix.
 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/22 16:51:49 (permalink)
Still looking for the DARK...
 
SR-2 RMA not going so well...
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/22 19:17:17 (permalink)
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Then it shouldn't be a problem to take care of the few that HAVE issues RIGHT?

 
I agree whole-heartedly!
 
I only had one RMA, but that was enough for me when the second one had the same problems as the first.  EVGA then told me that the board I returned tested out as good!  The USB ports did not work correctly on either board when I had them and there were other problems.  I've built enough computers to know it wasn't something I did!  Looking at the replacement board they sent me showed enough evidence of prior use and wear to convince me that I did not get a new replacement board, but one that had previously been returned!
 
I paid full price for a new, top of the line board, not a used one that had been returned to them!
 
If others didn't have any problems..., well..., I envy them and wish them continued good luck, but the money I spent for the Classified should have guaranteed that I would wind up with a new, fully functional board..., and I didn't!
 
The ASUS Rampage IV Extreme that I have now has worked perfectly right out of the box without having to hunt around for drivers and hacked together patches from around the internet.
 
EVGA has always treated me well before this, and I've spent a few thousand dollars on parts from them, but my experience with my X79 Classified turned me off to the point that I won't buy another MB from them unless they do something about the paperweight I've got in it's original box under my desk!
 
At the very least, they would have to apply the full price I paid for my Classified towards the Dark before I would even consider buying one!  I would ship it back to them first and even pay the shipping.  I wouldn't even ask for a 'cross-ship' on it.  I just want a guaranteed, new, fully functional board that makes up for the aggravation and a small  amount of the time I wasted trying to make the Classified work.
 
If 'most' or 'almost all' of their boards worked perfectly, then why the price drop to the point where it's selling at a bargain-basement, clearance price?  The ASUS board, even with all the bad press about their customer service, still sells at the same price it came out at.
 
Making it good to the 'few' who had multiple, non-functioning boards shouldn't be a problem and would be a priceless boost to their damaged reputation!
 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/22 21:54:25 (permalink)
Well time will tell... I think they are worried about a FLOOD of people having problems all the sudden... I am well on record so I have no fears of that. I fear nothing will be done and if that is the case, I just go elsewhere next time, lesson learned...
 
@darkxFaded I had long chats with tech support and tried everything. I was pretty much told there is NOTHING they can do about it. Just wanted to let you know.  I do like the people in this forum since they do help at a drop of the hat, and they I appreciate!
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/22 22:27:45 (permalink)
With all the issues that the latest generation of motherboards have had, the wishful thinking thing would be for EVGA to make those dissatisfied customers whole. I just don't see that happening though, for many reasons. EVGA is a small company, and that would be a big hit to their bottom line, albeit a positive one to their reputation. The main reason I don't think you'll see any public acknowledgement or action is one of liability. Companies, even with great customer service like EVGA, are extremely wary of admitting that they have defective products, since it can open a large can of legal worms.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I think basically it is what it is, and EVGA won't do anything for owners of defective (which is what they are) motherboards, other than repeatedly doing the RMA dance as provided in their warranty terms.
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/23 05:56:01 (permalink)
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With all the issues that the latest generation of motherboards have had, the wishful thinking thing would be for EVGA to make those dissatisfied customers whole. I just don't see that happening though, for many reasons. EVGA is a small company, and that would be a big hit to their bottom line, albeit a positive one to their reputation. The main reason I don't think you'll see any public acknowledgement or action is one of liability. Companies, even with great customer service like EVGA, are extremely wary of admitting that they have defective products, since it can open a large can of legal worms.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I think basically it is what it is, and EVGA won't do anything for owners of defective (which is what they are) motherboards, other than repeatedly doing the RMA dance as provided in their warranty terms.

 
Actually EVGA has done it before with the 750i -780i boards. And yes it did hit their bottom line a little , but you know what? They got a slew of new customers because they stood behind there product. . I think they will continue to do that.  If not then it is  time for a change.
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/23 14:19:54 (permalink)
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Then it shouldn't be a problem to take care of the few that HAVE issues RIGHT?

 
Here is the problem I see with all of this;
 
Most X79 boards are working fine.
A few people are complaining about issues with the board here in the forums. Those are the same people who seem to keep complaining about the same issues, after getting their board replaced.
From that, one could logically come to the conclusion that those who are having the same problems with their X79 after multiple replacements are just doing something wrong.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/23 18:25:11 (permalink)
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Then it shouldn't be a problem to take care of the few that HAVE issues RIGHT?


Here is the problem I see with all of this;

Most X79 boards are working fine.
A few people are complaining about issues with the board here in the forums. Those are the same people who seem to keep complaining about the same issues, after getting their board replaced.
From that, one could logically come to the conclusion that those who are having the same problems with their X79 after multiple replacements are just doing something wrong.


Actually..., you do not, and have absolutely no way of knowing if 'most' of the EVGA X-79 boards are working 'fine'!  EVGA has not, and I seriously doubt that they ever will, admit to or publish the percentage of X-79 MB's that have had problems or been returned, so there is no basis for your statement other than your own experience with them.  Your signature doesn't even mention one EVGA motherboard. 
 
I certainly don't claim to be a world-class computer expert or builder.  However, I have built and repaired enough computers to know that the two EVGA Classifieds that I've had experience with were both badly flawed to the extent that I returned one and set the other aside and spent another $400 or so for an ASUS board, despite my concerns about their customer service reputation.  I also can state with complete certainty that it was not anything I did that caused the problems!
 
I would gladly return my slightly used Classified for a refund if I could.  If the EVGA Dark turns out to have all the problems solved, I would like EVGA to accept my Classified back, giving me full credit for what I paid, against the price of the Dark.  I'd then put my ASUS board up for sale or build a second computer for myself.
 
Enough threads on this and other forums have been written to prove beyond all doubt, that the current iteration of the EVGA X-79 chipset motherboard is seriously flawed.
 
I am absolutely certain that EVGA has been working hard and long to try and solve the problems with their X-79 boards, but to date, have not been able to do so.  Such things happen and I have enough experience with, and goodwill towards EVGA that I would buy from them again, but not until I either get a refund for, or credit for my current, non-functional Classified.
 
 

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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/23 18:30:04 (permalink)
That's an absolute insult and you can go screw off. A lot of us have been building systems for a long time (12+ years for me). I've helped two friends build there x79 system and I told them to stay away from EVGA right now. They both have asus boards and I helped them overclock them. And guess what, no issues there. I've ran my system at stock speeds and still have usb 3 probs. So I bought 2 usb3 cards to run usb3. There are others on this forum that have gone the extra mile and tried working with EVGA about the issues on these boards. 
 
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Then it shouldn't be a problem to take care of the few that HAVE issues RIGHT?


Here is the problem I see with all of this;

Most X79 boards are working fine.
A few people are complaining about issues with the board here in the forums. Those are the same people who seem to keep complaining about the same issues, after getting their board replaced.
From that, one could logically come to the conclusion that those who are having the same problems with their X79 after multiple replacements are just doing something wrong.








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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/23 19:01:32 (permalink)
I guess ☢ OMG A FURRY ☢ MISSED the part where Jacob said there are PHYSICAL problems OR he never read detailed posts by Jonny Utah and the rest. I guess he missed the part were the Evga Techs TOLD me there were memory issues, etc.. All I have ever wanted is a 100% working MB. I guess he missed that's the same thing everybody else wants. Evga has been good to me BUT they have not made me 100%. Work with me! Make me a deal  and the others a deal. I am not looking for something for nothing!  
 
  I am a little insulted that I am told I am doing something wrong when Evga's OWN techs tell me its NOT ME... I don't think ☢ OMG A FURRY ☢ meant anything personal but I what I DO KNOW is it's NOT me... Guess I am beating the old dead horse again... I guess we will hear something or we will not, if not, NEVER Evga again. That's NOT me being nasty, vicious, and/or harsh, they have been nothing but gracious to me BUT they have not fixed me and a lot of others issues and that is REALLY not right...
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/23 19:01:38 (permalink)
☢ OMG A FURRY ☢




Here is the problem I see with all of this;

Most X79 boards are working fine.
A few people are complaining about issues with the board here in the forums. Those are the same people who seem to keep complaining about the same issues, after getting their board replaced.
From that, one could logically come to the conclusion that those who are having the same problems with their X79 after multiple replacements are just doing something wrong.


 
 Do you have an Evga x79 board?
My guess is no. So if you don't then you really can't have an opinion.
There may be some Evga x79 boards that do not have the issues that seem to plague Evga's x79 line up, and there might be some issues that are user induced. But there is a problem with these boards and that's a fact jack. 
post edited by awalleyeguy - 2013/04/23 19:06:18
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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/23 19:25:30 (permalink)
 
It will likely hurt EVGA's bottom line, and from that possibly their ability to supply and service quality products in the future to the level they have in the past, however for those with legitimate issues that have *already* been working with EVGA but not been able to resolve those issues, it would be nice if EVGA maybe allowed them all to step-up to the x79 Dark (assuming the board is ok) or at least a significant discount on it. At least that would be a reasonable compromise imho.
 
Note, I do not own an EVGA x79 board, so this comment is not made in self-interest.
 


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Re:EVGA X79 Dark 2013/04/23 23:51:33 (permalink)
☢ OMG A FURRY ☢

KimbaWLion

Then it shouldn't be a problem to take care of the few that HAVE issues RIGHT?


Here is the problem I see with all of this;

Most X79 boards are working fine.
A few people are complaining about issues with the board here in the forums. Those are the same people who seem to keep complaining about the same issues, after getting their board replaced.
From that, one could logically come to the conclusion that those who are having the same problems with their X79 after multiple replacements are just doing something wrong.






 
"Most" boards are working correctly?"  LOL. 
It's obvious you know nothing about the problems on the X79 and really have no right to assume anything about people on these forums with a LOT more hardware experience than you do.  See, this is what happens when pre-teens take a virus off their grandma's computer and think they are hardware/software experts.  Do us all a favor and post somewhere else, far, far away from here.
 
How about this:  From your own words:  "From the same people who keep complaining about the same issues".  From that one could logically come to the conclusion that the board itself is ridden with bugs/hardware problems.  Else, all the complaints would be about different problems.  Your thought process really astounds me.  You so desperately want to sound intelligent, but.....
post edited by Johnny_Utah - 2013/04/24 00:07:12





 
 
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