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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 12:35:15 (permalink)
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New PX1 update is live supporting KPE card. Hit the arrow to configure the OLED display. www.evga.com/px1
 


Just installed the software and the temperature now seem to agree. There was a FW update on installation. Thanks!!

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 12:48:31 (permalink)
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New PX1 update is live supporting KPE card. Hit the arrow to configure the OLED display. www.evga.com/px1


Out of curiosity, are you guys using the same Asetek pump for the Kingpin cards as what is used in the Hybrid kit for the XC/FTW3 cards? If so, I really hope you guys are planning to implement pump speed control within Precision X1 very soon, or you will probably have some upset Kingpin owners complaining about very loud pump noise and possibly even submitting RMA requests over it. Similar to what everyone is posting about in this thread...  

https://forums.evga.com/RTX-2080-TI-FTW3-ULTRA-HYBRID-GAMING-pump-noise-m2931312.aspx

I've been lucky in that my pump doesn't seem to be nearly as loud as others have shown in videos posted in that thread. But the issue is becoming pretty widespread and something that really should be addressed, in my opinion. 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 13:26:35 (permalink)
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New PX1 update is live supporting KPE card. Hit the arrow to configure the OLED display. www.evga.com/px1


Out of curiosity, are you guys using the same Asetek pump for the Kingpin cards as what is used in the Hybrid kit for the XC/FTW3 cards? If so, I really hope you guys are planning to implement pump speed control within Precision X1 very soon, or you will probably have some upset Kingpin owners complaining about very loud pump noise and possibly even submitting RMA requests over it. Similar to what everyone is posting about in this thread...  

https://forums.evga.com/RTX-2080-TI-FTW3-ULTRA-HYBRID-GAMING-pump-noise-m2931312.aspx

I've been lucky in that my pump doesn't seem to be nearly as loud as others have shown in videos posted in that thread. But the issue is becoming pretty widespread and something that really should be addressed, in my opinion. 


As far as I know, Kingpin is using gen6 pump and FTW3/XC/FE 120mm AIO is using gen4 (if I remember right). At least thats what I heard. So the Kingpin card should be better (tiny bit) but a lot quieter.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 13:38:32 (permalink)
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EdomeVery interesting information, thank you.
 
Is there a product manager in EU that could comment when will the EU EVGA Shop receive the first batch of Kingpin cards?
 
(Tried to order yesterday but currently US EVGA Shop blocks US->EU mail forwarding shipping addresses.)



Keep checking EVGA twitter accounts, specifically @EVGA_JacobF and @TEAMEVGA. EU has been mentioned once or twice in a couple twitter threads IIRC.




I think the non-response about EU customers is somewhat lacking, and also telling, I really like EVGA and I think EU are not second-hand customers, or at least I do not hope so. 
 
I mean, it can't be that hard to give a ballpark figure of when the launch will happen in the EU? Surely not. 
 
Hopefully we get some information soon, but there are people over here to that have looked forward to this card for quite some time. 
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 13:52:46 (permalink)
Yes the Kingpin card is using the latest Gen6 Asetek pump.
 
Regarding EU availability, this is something that is currently being worked on but I do not have an ETA just yet. Right now these cards are limited in availability.


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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 13:57:42 (permalink)
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Yes the Kingpin card is using the latest Gen6 Asetek pump.
 
Regarding EU availability, this is something that is currently being worked on but I do not have an ETA just yet. Right now these cards are limited in availability.




Thank you for this reply, I appreciate the fact that you are being open with a no ETA atm. 
 
Is there at least 100% probability that the cards eventually will be available for EU sale in the future, so money can be saved for that? 
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 14:02:00 (permalink)
I cannot say anything with 100% right now because of the limited availability, but I would say that it is very likely that it will be available in the EU in the near future.


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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 14:04:13 (permalink)
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Looking forward for xoc bios.

What XOC Bios?
I have never seen Any Versions of EVGA Precision have any Bios Updates.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 14:08:02 (permalink)
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I cannot say anything with 100% right now because of the limited availability, but I would say that it is very likely that it will be available in the EU in the near future.


 
Thank you very much.
 
Considering how exclusive the card is, I assume that IF the card is for sale in EU, that it will be sold at your eu.evga.com store and / or possibly your Ebay store? 
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 14:33:25 (permalink)
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As far as I know, Kingpin is using gen6 pump and FTW3/XC/FE 120mm AIO is using gen4 (if I remember right). At least thats what I heard. So the Kingpin card should be better (tiny bit) but a lot quieter.


Nope. The other 20 series hybrid cards and hybrid kits are also using the latest Asetek Gen6 pump as well.

Regardless, now that people are receiving their Kingpin cards, I'll be curious to see what people experience in terms of pump noise with them.

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Yes the Kingpin card is using the latest Gen6 Asetek pump.


Right... Which is the same noisy pump being used in the other 20 series hybrid cards and hybrid kits. It's loud enough that people keep RMAing them.

I have to ask; Why do you guys completely avoid answering questions about the Gen6 pump noise MANY people are complaining about in multiple threads?

It's just a matter of time before you get complaints about it from Kingpin owners as well, now that it's clear you are using the same pump in these cards.

I'm sorry for bringing it to this thread but it's getting pretty ridiculous that you guys refuse to respond to the issue while continuing to accept RMAs for it.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 14:48:17 (permalink)
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Yes the Kingpin card is using the latest Gen6 Asetek pump.


Right... Which is the same noisy pump being used in the other 20 series hybrid cards and hybrid kits. It's loud enough that people keep RMAing them.

I have to ask; Why do you guys completely avoid answering questions about the Gen6 pump noise MANY people are complaining about in multiple threads?

It's just a matter of time before you get complaints about it from Kingpin owners as well, now that it's clear you are using the same pump in these cards.

I'm sorry for bringing it to this thread but it's getting pretty ridiculous that you guys refuse to respond to the issue while continuing to accept RMAs for it.


You are then saying this is a really Bad Pump and should not have been used in the KINGPIN Graphics Card?
This is the same Pump used on EVGA Hybrids.
I have never heard Pump Noise from any of my Hybrid Coolers.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 14:55:24 (permalink)
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You are then saying this is a really Bad Pump?


Not sure I understand the picture...

The performance of the pump is fine. It's just quite noisy and if you keep your PC on your desk, it can sound like a beer fridge next to your head. It's significantly louder than the AIO's I've used over the last couple months from NZXT and Corsair and requires fans at 80% or higher to really drown it out. And mine seems to be one of the quieter ones. Others have discovered that by plugging the pump directly into their MB and decreasing it's speed to 80% or even 85% eliminates the noise while only increasing temps by 1-3C, at most. But, in stock configuration the pump runs at 100% full time, making it very loud. 

The simple solution would be for EVGA to release an X1 update, allowing Hybrid users to decrease their pump RPM to a floor of 80%. Then they wouldn't get nearly as many RMAs as they appear to be getting (according to the other threads). Instead, they keep ignoring the topic completely, which is getting quite strange. I'm just waiting for the Kingpin owners to start reporting the same thing since it's apparently the same pump. 

I mean, just listen to this...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f45mwo1ohdfbqkx/2019_03_09_11_48_41_1.mp3?dl=0
post edited by sn0warmy - 2019/04/09 15:03:35
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 15:47:19 (permalink)
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bcavnaugh
You are then saying this is a really Bad Pump?


Not sure I understand the picture...

The performance of the pump is fine. It's just quite noisy and if you keep your PC on your desk, it can sound like a beer fridge next to your head. It's significantly louder than the AIO's I've used over the last couple months from NZXT and Corsair and requires fans at 80% or higher to really drown it out. And mine seems to be one of the quieter ones. Others have discovered that by plugging the pump directly into their MB and decreasing it's speed to 80% or even 85% eliminates the noise while only increasing temps by 1-3C, at most. But, in stock configuration the pump runs at 100% full time, making it very loud. 

The simple solution would be for EVGA to release an X1 update, allowing Hybrid users to decrease their pump RPM to a floor of 80%. Then they wouldn't get nearly as many RMAs as they appear to be getting (according to the other threads). Instead, they keep ignoring the topic completely, which is getting quite strange. I'm just waiting for the Kingpin owners to start reporting the same thing since it's apparently the same pump. 

I mean, just listen to this...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f45mwo1ohdfbqkx/2019_03_09_11_48_41_1.mp3?dl=0


That's awesome!... not.

Sounds like people will really want that hydro block when it hits.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 15:49:13 (permalink)
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That's awesome!... not.

Sounds like people will really want that hydro block when it hits.


Yeah, I really hope, for the sake of those who dropped some serious coin on the Kinpin cards, that those pumps aren't plagued with the same issue. 

On the plus side, as you pointed out, this whole thing finally has me doing research and watching countless videos on doing my first custom open loop setup. Getting pretty amped to tackle a new project. 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 15:55:53 (permalink)
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AHowes
That's awesome!... not.

Sounds like people will really want that hydro block when it hits.


Yeah, I really hope, for the sake of those who dropped some serious coin on the Kinpin cards, that those pumps aren't plagued with the same issue. 

On the plus side, as you pointed out, this whole thing finally has me doing research and watching countless videos on doing my first custom open loop setup. Getting pretty amped to tackle a new project. 


Have at it! Using soft tubing would make the project way easier no doubt. Stay away from colored coolant. Good luck!

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 15:57:59 (permalink)
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Have at it! Using soft tubing would make the project way easier no doubt. Stay away from colored coolant. Good luck!


Yeah my first go around will be soft tubing and just distilled water. Thanks for the encouragement.

Anyway. I'll stop detailing this thread now. Congrats to all those who have their Kingpins in route. Excited to see all of your OC tinkering results.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 16:04:05 (permalink)
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bcavnaugh
You are then saying this is a really Bad Pump?


Not sure I understand the picture...

The performance of the pump is fine. It's just quite noisy and if you keep your PC on your desk, it can sound like a beer fridge next to your head. It's significantly louder than the AIO's I've used over the last couple months from NZXT and Corsair and requires fans at 80% or higher to really drown it out. And mine seems to be one of the quieter ones. Others have discovered that by plugging the pump directly into their MB and decreasing it's speed to 80% or even 85% eliminates the noise while only increasing temps by 1-3C, at most. But, in stock configuration the pump runs at 100% full time, making it very loud. 

The simple solution would be for EVGA to release an X1 update, allowing Hybrid users to decrease their pump RPM to a floor of 80%. Then they wouldn't get nearly as many RMAs as they appear to be getting (according to the other threads). Instead, they keep ignoring the topic completely, which is getting quite strange. I'm just waiting for the Kingpin owners to start reporting the same thing since it's apparently the same pump. 

I mean, just listen to this...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f45mwo1ohdfbqkx/2019_03_09_11_48_41_1.mp3?dl=0

It is the same Pump is all and I have not heard of any complaining about the same Pump used on the NZXT Unit.
None of my Hybrid Pumps sound like what you have Posted above, none of them.
It sounds as if the MIC was placed on the Pump when Recorded, with the case closed and on the side of the Desk you would hear nothing.
I know you have posted in just about every Thread on the Forum about yours sounding like a small fridge. You bring this to every Thread.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 16:09:29 (permalink)
Never leave distilled water naked in your loop.  You could get growth and some slight corrosion.  Always have something in there with it.  I say go with a clear premixed fluid from a reputed company.  For example, I use Aquacomputer's Double Protect Ultra Clear coolant and I did a 2+ year test and everything was good as new, something I wouldn't get with just distilled and silver kill coils since my copper CPU blocks (3 of them) would get too much oxidization which eventually gets cleaned with some work done to it but still.  With this premixed DP clear fluid, had no issue and was amazed.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 16:10:10 (permalink)
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AHowes
Have at it! Using soft tubing would make the project way easier no doubt. Stay away from colored coolant. Good luck!


Yeah my first go around will be soft tubing and just distilled water. Thanks for the encouragement.

Anyway. I'll stop detailing this thread now. Congrats to all those who have their Kingpins in route. Excited to see all of your OC tinkering results.


I am sure you have heard this already, but just in case you have not, make sure you add some antimicrobial additive if you use nothing but distilled water. I personally use Mayhems products for prep and normal use and have had nothing but success. In fact, I probably should not admit this but my loop has been running great for just over 2 years now. My loop contains a 7700k at 5.1Ghz on all cores, and 2 FE 1080ti’s so it’s a fair bit of heat. Will be interesting to see how things look whenever a water block becomes available.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 16:12:13 (permalink)
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As far as I know, Kingpin is using gen6 pump and FTW3/XC/FE 120mm AIO is using gen4 (if I remember right). At least thats what I heard. So the Kingpin card should be better (tiny bit) but a lot quieter.


Nope. The other 20 series hybrid cards and hybrid kits are also using the latest Asetek Gen6 pump as well.

Regardless, now that people are receiving their Kingpin cards, I'll be curious to see what people experience in terms of pump noise with them.

EVGA_JacobF
Yes the Kingpin card is using the latest Gen6 Asetek pump.


Right... Which is the same noisy pump being used in the other 20 series hybrid cards and hybrid kits. It's loud enough that people keep RMAing them.

I have to ask; Why do you guys completely avoid answering questions about the Gen6 pump noise MANY people are complaining about in multiple threads?

It's just a matter of time before you get complaints about it from Kingpin owners as well, now that it's clear you are using the same pump in these cards.

I'm sorry for bringing it to this thread but it's getting pretty ridiculous that you guys refuse to respond to the issue while continuing to accept RMAs for it.

Wow so the 120mm is using gen6 as well? Here I was debating whether I should get the kingpin if it comes to EU or not...I do plan on doing custom loop but I would have the kingpin with the hybrid for a few months and having to deal with the same or worse noise than my current hybrid is just not something I want, no matter the card.
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 16:54:48 (permalink)
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Looking forward for xoc bios.
ditto


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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 17:38:16 (permalink)
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Man, lame.  Order next day air, and then UPS said it was delayed until Thursday.  Now, they are saying they'll get it to me tomorrow, but that's UPS's bad. Impressive shipping time on the Kingpins EVGA. Well executed launch. I expected bugs with the associate codes as is the roll out of anything new for anyone, but you guys did it all well.


Same here. UPS Next Day... initially all good showing 4/9/2019 delivery date but then there was a flight delay in Louisville, KY and they added an addendum saying delivery will be delayed by 1-day. It was saying Thursday this afternoon but now it's back to saying Wednesday. Not eligible for refund because it is an event "out of their control". Did you place your order from Canada?
 
I'm beginning think UPS bakes these shipping "exceptions" into their system in order to get away with providing people sub-par service, LOL. I can't remember a UPS shipment where it's made it from A-to-B without some sort of exception.
 
I will say that I was only charged $11.40 for customs brokerage which is very nice, so credit where credit is due there.
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 17:38:38 (permalink)
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It is the same Pump is all and I have not heard of any complaining about the same Pump used on the NZXT Unit.
None of my Hybrid Pumps sound like what you have Posted above, none of them.
It sounds as if the MIC was placed on the Pump when Recorded, with the case closed and on the side of the Desk you would hear nothing.
I know you have posted in just about every Thread on the Forum about yours sounding like a small fridge. You bring this to every Thread.


You can't be serious...

There are COUNTLESS people complaining about it and I know you've seen it in the other threads for yourself, because you have also posted in them multiple times. In fact, if you go back and read my contributions to those threads you'll see that, just like you, I've reported that mine isn't nearly as loud as some of the others that have posted their video/audio.

Regardless, this IS an issue and many have RMA'd their hybrid cards and hybrid kits because of it. Pretending it's not a problem because you somehow magically get completely silent pumps, does not make the issue any less real. But sure, make it seem like I'm the odd ball here. 

https://forums.evga.com/RTX-2080-TI-FTW3-ULTRA-HYBRID-GAMING-pump-noise-m2931312.aspx
https://forums.evga.com/2080-Hybrid-sounds-like-a-small-refrigerator-Pump-Noise-m2914186.aspx
https://forums.evga.com/2x-2080-TI-Hybrid-FTW-buzzing-noise-from-pump-m2918467.aspx
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/b8va3l/those_who_have_an_evga_2080_ti_hybrid_card_do_you/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs40HggpvjI&app=desktop

...I can keep going. Even Mcwrah, just posted right below you in this thread, indicating that they have the same issue.

And the reason why the other AIO's (like the NZXT Krakens) don't exhibit the same issue, even though they have the same Asetek Gen6 pumps, is because they all allow you to set the pump to lower speeds when not under load. If EVGA would just allow us to turn the hybrid pumps down slightly, the problem would be gone. Many people have proven this by plugging their EVGA hybrid kit pump directly into the motherboard and decreasing pump speed to 80% - 90% through bios or other fan control software.



post edited by sn0warmy - 2019/04/09 17:43:10
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti KINGPIN is HERE! 2019/04/09 18:07:47 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/09 18:11:39 (permalink)
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I appreciate that.  Thank you again and hope you enjoy that beast of a GPU. 




No problem. I will, I'm putting it in a new 9900k & Z390 Dark build I'm putting together before my first kid is born in a few months while I still have some funds to put towards it lol. I'll be sure to post some pictures on here when its all together. All the best to you and thanks again for your help.




 
 I said the same thing when I built a 7700k and 1080ti build ehehhe. Now my Daughter is 2 and she has more toys than my wife and I had combined through our entire childhoods and I am putting the RTX 2080 TI KPE in a 9900K build. Congrats on your "retirement build" and the kiddo on the way.
 
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/09 19:22:26 (permalink)
Ran some tests.
 
Have 3 KPs here. Two of them I own myself and the third belongs to my business partner.
 
Both of my cards remained on water with original config/cooler and my friend was able to ghetto rig his into a custom loop with a chiller (he will be posting pics here, is definitely only a very temporary solution).

Max clocks for my cards were: 2185 and 2190 (at around 40c-45c)
Max for his: 2205 (max at 23c, idle at 12c, fluid temp 4c)
 
His temps would have been even better if he had a real waterblock, there was definitely some areas left uncovered.

The only real rival to this card is the HOF. which I own 3 of (one being OC LABS WC). I haven't tested the two non Labs HOFs yet (they arrived today) however, I'm able to hit a steady 2435 on the OC LABS (purchased end of last year). This difference is immense and is of course largely due to HOFs 2000w bios. However, in comparison, my REFERENCE PCB (2 plug) MSI Oc Duke on the 2000w bios is able to hit 2285 (512 watts)!
 
I called EVGA to inquire about the XOC bios and was hung up on (or the line just really conveniently cut). My humble conclusion is, without a XOC bios this card is not worth it at all.





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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/09 19:28:02 (permalink)
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Ran some tests.
 
Have 3 KPs here. Two of them I own myself and the third belongs to my business partner.
 
Both of my cards remained on water with original config/cooler and my friend was able to ghetto rig his into a custom loop with a chiller (he will be posting pics here, is definitely only a very temporary solution).

Max clocks for my cards were: 2185 and 2190 (at around 40c-45c)
Max for his: 2205 (max at 23c, idle at 12c, fluid temp 4c)
 
His temps would have been even better if he had a real waterblock, there was definitely some areas left uncovered.

The only real rival to this card is the HOF. which I own 3 of (one being OC LABS WC). I haven't tested the two non Labs HOFs yet (they arrived today) however, I'm able to hit a steady 2435 on the OC LABS (purchased end of last year). This difference is immense and is of course largely due to HOFs 2000w bios. However, in comparison, my REFERENCE PCB (2 plug) MSI Oc Duke on the 2000w bios is able to hit 2285 (512 watts)!
 
I called EVGA to inquire about the XOC bios and was hung up on (or the line just really conveniently cut). My humble conclusion is, without a XOC bios this card is not worth it at all.




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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/09 19:28:58 (permalink)
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...My humble conclusion is, without a XOC bios this card is not worth it at all.

 
This is essentially correct but shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone who has been into GPU OC'ing for a while. The same goes for the Lightning Z and HOF cards. KPE users will most likely have access to an XOC vBios from Vince as has been the case in the past. Also there are many vBios' that people can already choose from to raise the power limit on any card, the Asus 1000W bios comes to mind...
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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/09 19:43:45 (permalink)
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Ran some tests.
 
Have 3 KPs here. Two of them I own myself and the third belongs to my business partner.
 
Both of my cards remained on water with original config/cooler and my friend was able to ghetto rig his into a custom loop with a chiller (he will be posting pics here, is definitely only a very temporary solution).

Max clocks for my cards were: 2185 and 2190 (at around 40c-45c)
Max for his: 2205 (max at 23c, idle at 12c, fluid temp 4c)
 
His temps would have been even better if he had a real waterblock, there was definitely some areas left uncovered.

The only real rival to this card is the HOF. which I own 3 of (one being OC LABS WC). I haven't tested the two non Labs HOFs yet (they arrived today) however, I'm able to hit a steady 2435 on the OC LABS (purchased end of last year). This difference is immense and is of course largely due to HOFs 2000w bios. However, in comparison, my REFERENCE PCB (2 plug) MSI Oc Duke on the 2000w bios is able to hit 2285 (512 watts)!
 
I called EVGA to inquire about the XOC bios and was hung up on (or the line just really conveniently cut). My humble conclusion is, without a XOC bios this card is not worth it at all.

Any Links to your benchmarks?
Just leave off the http:// https://
Sill would like to know what the XOC bios is.

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Re: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti K|NGP|N is HERE! 2019/04/09 19:43:54 (permalink)
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...My humble conclusion is, without a XOC bios this card is not worth it at all.

 
This is essentially correct and shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone who has been into GPU OC'ing for a while. The same goes for the Lightning Z and HOF cards. KPE users will most likely have access to an XOC vBios from Vince as has been the case in the past. Also there are many vBios' that people can already choose from to raise the power limit on any card, the Asus 1000W bios comes to mind...


This is true indeed. I had to prove I owned the HOF OC labs to get that 2000w bios. It wasnt an issue at all however. The fact that it is “unsure” wether the kingpin xoc bios will be released is not worth the $4.3k risk imo, especially if there’s a chance only “the chosen ones” will get it.

The 1000w asus bios diminishes nvlink speed and typically produces lower results than the 460/380. I even tried it on my HOF (for the people’s) and got terrible results.

I can also confirm the 2000w bios can cause cards to remain in safe mode (until reflashed), so not all gpus take well to different bios’s.

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