Gotspeed_2000
Hopefully this week we should see if Optimus is able to keep it's timelines.  They put out via twitter that emails should be going out this week for those who have placed orders with deliveries to be processed the following week.  I'm thinking it will still be end of September before we see our blocks, but maybe we will be lucky.  Even if the blocks are released late September, they did a pretty good job on timelines if it holds.  

Unfortunately, Optimus already said the 3090 Kingpin Blocks are delayed 2 more weeks.

Can anyone tell me what the hybrid fan specs are? I can't find it anywhere on the product page.

I took my hydro copper blocks apart to see if I could fix the leaks between the clear acrylic and the black part with the fittings.  The hydro copper kit on my 3090 Kingpin Hybrid was fixable for now, but the block on my Kingpin Hybrid still leaks even with ~30C fluid.  So the issue doesn't seem to be limited to sub ambient/chilled water cooling.
 
Who knows when the Optimus blocks will actually show up, so I contacted EVGA support.

redteamgo
Bavor interesting. We’re you able to air test the block? If so do you mind sharing the your findings?

What exactly do you mean by air testing?  Do you mean testing with one of these? 
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-leak-tester
Initially the blocks and the entire loop held up to 30 minutes at 10 PSI with the EKWB air tester without any pressure drop.
 
If the block leaks with water now, it will leak with air.  

single score PR 14676.  +1000m/+100c/121%
 
no tinkering with dip switches or voltage.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/66137130
 

nosomo

redteamgo
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/66137130
 

You dropped 10c off your temps -- did you use different thermal pads?  It looks like the block was standing off of the core -- possibly the result of incorrect thermal pads.

The run I posted above in the quote was about 15m after the 20x PR stress test so I think the system was a bit heat soaked.  Sorry for the lack of organization in the info I provided.
 
I've had some more interesting results this morning since I am taking the day and have some time.  It looks like once power breaks 480w and/or voltage exceeds 1.081V, that is why I crash.  That only happens when clock > +100c.  I might have gotten lucky with having a successful +110c run with the below settings.  You can see in the side by side HWInfo pic that I only got to 99% GPU usage in that run but the voltage didn't tick past 1.081v.  I have not had any successful PR runs at +110c since.
 
The conclusion seems to be that the voltage slide really does nothing on the LN2 bios when the wattage has already peaked.  In my case, the max wattage is achieved at a voltage of 1.081v which is equal to +v = +0v on my card, which is fascinating.  It appears that further increases in the voltage become a function of the available power.  Thus, I would need the 520w bios to have any changes to voltage actually impact the card's performance.  Is this faulty logic for overclocking?  It seems legit but I'm new to this.
 
 
From left to right:
1. PR 14,794 / settings: +1500m/+100c/+120p/+100v  (https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/66173775)
2. PR 14,972 / settings: +1500m/+110c/+120p/+100v  (https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/66174172)
3. PR crash   / settings: +1500m/+120c/+120p/+100v 
4. PR 14,876 / settings: +1500m/+100c/+120p/+0v  (https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/66175761)
 

 
Also additional info that might be relevant:
* The temperature sensor EC_TEMP1 is my loop coolant temp.
* The CPU is an 11700k that is underclocked to 4.0ghz for all of the above runs.
* Ambient temp is 25C / 77F

Well, I broke 15k!  Going to give my computer a break and try to put CPU clock speeds back at stock and see what happens.
 
PR 15,144
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/66227078
+1500m/+120c/+121p/+100v
 

 
 

redteamgo
Well, I broke 15k!  Going to give my computer a break and try to put CPU clock speeds back at stock and see what happens.
 
PR 15,144
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/66227078
+1500m/+120c/+121p/+100v
 

 
 

Mine will totally atrfat out and fritz more that 1350 mem.
I would try a higher clock when she is cold like 155 and see if you can get a couple hundred more 
PR is a clock whore . CPU really is not influencing scores here.

If I get anywhere near +1400memory I get artifact reboot poof 
what if its the +1500m getting the PCB hot in one of its 12 layers? 
my highest OC is just sliders on AB, I think the Hybrid VRM fins might be doing something great beyond what the block is capable of ...
 

rumors are rumors but
 
https://twitter.com/harukaze5719/status/1443834077203759112?s=20
 

redteamgo

g33km4n
Got 15,506!
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1253618
KP Hydro Copper (+1550m/+155c/121p/+100v) + i9 11900K (@5.3GHz all-cores) + G-Skill F4-4000C (@3733-16-16-16-36 Gear1)


Really happy with the card and with the conversion to HC from Hybrid with a kit. Tried to increase cooling to the backside as much as possible and it seems to have worked very well.

sweet score! you have an awesome card.
 
do you mind me asking - for your voltage, did you do dipswitches or the classified tool?  do you mind sharing your specific settings on how you  did the voltage?  still trying to learn here 

Thanks, yeah feel pretty lucky with this round of silicon lottery 
In this case, I used the dipswitches. NVVDD "1" and "2" ON, MSVDD "1" ON and "2" OFF. FB1 and LL1 all OFF. 

g33km4n

redteamgo

g33km4n
Got 15,506!
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1253618
KP Hydro Copper (+1550m/+155c/121p/+100v) + i9 11900K (@5.3GHz all-cores) + G-Skill F4-4000C (@3733-16-16-16-36 Gear1)


Really happy with the card and with the conversion to HC from Hybrid with a kit. Tried to increase cooling to the backside as much as possible and it seems to have worked very well.

sweet score! you have an awesome card.
 
do you mind me asking - for your voltage, did you do dipswitches or the classified tool?  do you mind sharing your specific settings on how you  did the voltage?  still trying to learn here 

Thanks, yeah feel pretty lucky with this round of silicon lottery 
In this case, I used the dipswitches. NVVDD "1" and "2" ON, MSVDD "1" ON and "2" OFF. FB1 and LL1 all OFF. 

thank you!  I have tried that same combo, I can't seem to get a clock speed higher than +120.  luck of the draw I suppose.  
 

elbramso

redteamgo
Well, I broke 15k!  Going to give my computer a break and try to put CPU clock speeds back at stock and see what happens.
 
PR 15,144
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/66227078
+1500m/+120c/+121p/+100v
 

 
 

Nice score!
Still I think it's kinda sad to see a 26c delta with the HC Kit. This block just isn't good :(
 

agreed.  My ambient is a consistent 26-27C,  for my 3rd attempt to remount the HC block, the GPU temps are just 0.4C improved vs the hybrid in a 20x PR stress test.  I guess that could mean that the hybrid is really good too.  I'm waiting to see how good the optimus block is on the GPU temp.
 
i put together a comparison of the hybrid baseline and HC mountings that I've done.  In the 3rd mounting, the memory and power temps have significant improvements due to Gelid pads on the front and back but really.. that could have been achieved with the hybrid.  and all of the Gelid pads wasn't exactly cheap either - almost the cost of an active backplate.
 

 

So does anybody daily drive the 1000w bios, or is the 520w bios the most reasonable as far as practical usability goes?

snoopy3525
One question: I currently hooked up the three 120mm fans to the included 3-way fan cable attached to card.  Can the three fans be controlled separately from the "on the card" fan?  I wouldn't mind the noise keeping the Noctuas running 100% at all times, they're not really audible to my ears.  However, the Kingpin fan on the card can get loud over 70-75%.   Worse case I can just plug the 3 fans directly into a fan controller (my case has one).

You can control the radiator fans with a motherboard header set at 100% speed if that's what you want.

kevinc313
So does anybody daily drive the 1000w bios, or is the 520w bios the most reasonable as far as practical usability goes?

I've been daily driving the 1kw bios for almost a year now on my Zotac 3090, but that's a lot more beneficial since otherwise I'm stuck with a 390w bios (2x8pin).  It works fine, although the mem by default does not idle and of course there are no thermal safeties so you need to be sure you have good reliable cooling.  I guess the hybrid is probably ok for that, although I like the redundancy of my loop with dual pumps.
 
I think the 520w bios would be a great daily driver.  Not much performance beyond 500w.