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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/18 10:12:01 (permalink)
Hello All, 
Just got my Kingpin hooked up and wanted to post back with some of my scores and see what you all thought. 
BIOS: LN2
Mem: +200
Core: +135
Port Royal Score: 14,925
Sliders set to max.
 
What do you all think? Is that a good score for this board? 
I haven't touched the dip switches on the back of the card and have not messed with the classified tool. 
 
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. 
Thanks, 
J

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/18 11:05:07 (permalink)
That is a great +core with no change to voltage.  have you tried higher mem offsets?  like +1000?

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/19 02:30:55 (permalink)
My best PR score with my Kingpin Hybrid with stock cooler : 15816

http://www.3dmark.com/pr/1400268

18 degrees ambient
NVDD = 1,225v
FBVDD = 1,375v
MSVDD = 1,175v
NV and MS freq@800Khz
LLC6 for NVDD and MSVDD
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Rebar forced with nvidia inspector for « 3DMark Port Royal DLSS » profile.
Drivers on high performances.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/19 05:11:08 (permalink)
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Hello All, 
Just got my Kingpin hooked up and wanted to post back with some of my scores and see what you all thought. 
BIOS: LN2
Mem: +200
Core: +135
Port Royal Score: 14,925
Sliders set to max.
 
What do you all think? Is that a good score for this board? 
I haven't touched the dip switches on the back of the card and have not messed with the classified tool. 
 
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. 
 



In my experience, most Kingpin cards will do a minimum of +1200 mem OC for Port Royal.  That will greatly increase your scores.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/19 05:40:32 (permalink)
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Rebar forced with nvidia inspector for « 3DMark Port Royal DLSS » profile.



I've done some semi scientific experiments with ReBar forced on with profile inspector on water cooled 3090 cards in Port Royal.  I used the same GPU clock, same VRAM clocks, same voltages, same power limits, and the same coolant temps.  It seems that when you force ReBar through Nvidia Profile Inspector, you gain 200-300 points on average in single card 3090 scores.  
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/19 06:03:22 (permalink)
Yes, this is why I enable it 😊

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/19 12:56:08 (permalink)
Got notified for 3080 XC3 Hydro Copper. There has been good HC movement lately, maybe it is time for the KINGPIN?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/19 13:27:52 (permalink)
I noticed my Kingpin maxes at around 117% power on the LN2 bios in Quake 2 RTX (506w). Anyone else hitting that limit? My card was made in December 2020

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/20 00:30:57 (permalink)
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I noticed my Kingpin maxes at around 117% power on the LN2 bios in Quake 2 RTX (506w). Anyone else hitting that limit? My card was made in December 2020



The card is only going to use the power it needs no matter what the power limit is. There may be other factors limiting the card from using more power, such as hitting the voltage limit or the GPU temperature.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/20 13:31:26 (permalink)
Don't know why you would want 500+w for Quake 2, anyway, I found that MSFS is defeating my undervolt I was using since my motherboard change. It was pulling about 378w and last night it was more like 416w. Had to rework that one. Iracing remained the same, so different programs work the card in different ways.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/20 13:33:49 (permalink)
Quake 2 RTX requires massive power to maintain the same boost clock as you would get in other games with a lot less power.  It will pull well over 600w at the voltage limit.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/20 19:38:49 (permalink)
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Hello All, 
Just got my Kingpin hooked up and wanted to post back with some of my scores and see what you all thought. 
BIOS: LN2
Mem: +200
Core: +135
Port Royal Score: 14,925
Sliders set to max.
 
What do you all think? Is that a good score for this board? 
I haven't touched the dip switches on the back of the card and have not messed with the classified tool. 
 
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. 
Thanks, 
J




Yes that is spectacular score. I maxed out with mine with switches on and +145 +1400mem at 14839.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/21 12:24:38 (permalink)
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Don't know why you would want 500+w for Quake 2, anyway, I found that MSFS is defeating my undervolt I was using since my motherboard change. It was pulling about 378w and last night it was more like 416w. Had to rework that one. Iracing remained the same, so different programs work the card in different ways.

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I noticed my Kingpin maxes at around 117% power on the LN2 bios in Quake 2 RTX (506w). Anyone else hitting that limit? My card was made in December 2020



The card is only going to use the power it needs no matter what the power limit is. There may be other factors limiting the card from using more power, such as hitting the voltage limit or the GPU temperature.


It's more about checking to see if my card is drawing power properly. It is hitting its internal power limit at 117%. 


 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/21 12:53:52 (permalink)
Some games can't hit the full 520w power draw because your configuration doesn't require it... I don't have quake 2 RTX so I can't try myself.
 
Try to increase your resolution, increase super sampling %, no frame cap/vsync
 
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/21 15:00:44 (permalink)
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Some games can't hit the full 520w power draw because your configuration doesn't require it... I don't have quake 2 RTX so I can't try myself.

Sure you can, Quake2 RTX shareware is free on Steam.
  1. ~ to bring down console
  2. timedemo 1
  3. demo q2demo1
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/21 15:34:50 (permalink)
thanks, didnt know it was freeware.
 
running around in shareware mode looks ok to me.  I didnt hit 121% but I only ran around for a few minutes.
 
 

 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/21 16:44:11 (permalink)
I thought Quake was one of those games that run at 385 FPS, must be thinking of something else, Doom maybe , I remember the saying back in the 90s, YA its a good machine , but how does it quake, lol ,  Most everything I try to get to run below 400w just to keep the card cool and happy, I might go buy it for  nostalgic  testing hehe
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/21 17:01:29 (permalink)
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thanks, didnt know it was freeware.
 
running around in shareware mode looks ok to me.  I didnt hit 121% but I only ran around for a few minutes.
 




 
redteamgo was that you how just added the backplate cooling, do you have any more of your experience and pics
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/21 19:14:11 (permalink)
Hey, kraade, yes I did just do the mp5works backplate. what would you like to see?

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/22 06:18:55 (permalink)
I recently returned home after traveling for a couple months, fired up my primary gaming rig and realized my KP HC OLED is stuck displaying 24w. I  updated the firmware via px1, reinstalled windows, DDU'd nvidia drivers and tried swapping to a variety of vbios, etc. The screen is now blank and I thought an RMA would be imminent. 
 
Despite my frustration, I noticed some improved performance in a couple games, and decided to do some PR runs for the first time since July. I'm utterly shocked by the results... 16,102 using the 1000w re-bar enabled bios (23c ambient w/ no exotic cooling beyond my loop). I could hardly break 15,700  on the same bios this past summer.
 
http://www.3dmark.com/pr/1407157
 
While I would prefer to have a functioning OLED, suppose I can learn to live w/o it. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/22 06:39:13 (permalink)
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I thought Quake was one of those games that run at 385 FPS, must be thinking of something else, Doom maybe , I remember the saying back in the 90s, YA its a good machine , but how does it quake, lol ,  Most everything I try to get to run below 400w just to keep the card cool and happy, I might go buy it for  nostalgic  testing hehe


Quake 2 rtx is the original 1990s game redone with a full raytraced lighting engine. Its actually pretty cool to try because only the lighting is changed and it really improves the games image quality in ways you wouldn't expect.

Its also the most demanding game I can find. Its interesting to me that people say the kingpin is binned to 2100, I'm not sure that is true. Mine really struggles in certain games above stock. DCS in particular, but that game is notorious for not working with overclocks. Metro Exodus ray traced edition as well.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/22 09:34:37 (permalink)
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Its also the most demanding game I can find.

 
Its pretty good stability test. Control is also excellent. Many times I've thought everything was rock stable until 20 min into Control. But unline Quake 2 RTX its not free.
 
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Its interesting to me that people say the kingpin is binned to 2100, I'm not sure that is true. Mine really struggles in certain games above stock. DCS in particular, but that game is notorious for not working with overclocks. Metro Exodus ray traced edition as well.



I didn't know about the 2100 figure. Having had 2 of these now to play with - both were definitely cruising past 2100 no problem.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/22 13:28:39 (permalink)
I played some quake last night and it does pull a bunch of power
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/22 13:38:11 (permalink)
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Hey, kraade, yes I did just do the mp5works backplate. what would you like to see?


I was wondering how it mount to the backplate, and did you used the all-in one optimus pad on the backside?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/24 10:22:41 (permalink)
3080Ti 12900k ....rebar disabled (no nv inspector tweaking or anything but stock vbios)....ambient temps cool this AM +17c in my Office...
 
+210 / +1275
PR 15,018
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1411187
 

 
 
 
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/24 12:00:45 (permalink)
My card should be back to EVGA on Wednesday, they covered the call tag.  
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/24 12:22:19 (permalink)
Kevin....was it a kp?....sorry I know you mentioned it....cant remember

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/24 12:48:27 (permalink)
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Kevin....was it a kp?....sorry I know you mentioned it....cant remember




New KP.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/24 13:12:47 (permalink)
^^^ Will you get bnib or refurb....considering the premium $$$ of these Cards.
Keep us posted...Im sure you will.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 K|NGP|N - Owners thread (bench marks, questions, etc.) 2022/01/24 13:20:26 (permalink)
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^^^ Will you get bnib or refurb....considering the premium $$$ of these Cards.
Keep us posted...Im sure you will.




They said to send the card in because they might have to fix it and send it back due to limited supply.  They said if I paid for cross ship they couldn't promise me they had a new card in hand to ship out immediately.  Considering I had the card for about a day and a half before it failed, I think they should send me a new one.   But whatever.
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