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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/22 11:05:35 (permalink)
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Hi everyone,
 
We have an update regarding the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA (24G-P5-3987-KR). If you have this specific card and are using the XOC BIOS BETA update and not seeing ideal overclocking results please send an email to 3090OC@evga.com for more details. Please make sure your card is registered first, and if you have screenshots of your max wattage under load and list of applications/games used this will help as well when emailing.
 
Thanks,
EVGA



Hi Jacob,
People are worried that they may receive RMA cards which may perform as the ones they are returning. 
There are comments on this forum from people who seem to be convinced that they will receive a replacement card which is going to be somebody else's RMA. 
Can I please ask, are these replacement cards going to be new?
Can you kindly specify whether the new cards are going to be different in terms of manufacturing and specifications?
If the replacement cards are expected to be better balanced, in terms of power, how is this achieved?
Best,
Chris
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/22 12:35:16 (permalink)
Uh no one here is saying that we received replacement cards that will be someone else's rma.
Besides, it doesn't mean anything.
Sincerely
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/22 12:43:38 (permalink)
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Anyone know if  
Is the bios for the 3090 FTW3 air cooled RMA email cards for the 500wats? I have an air-cooled rmaed card from the 3090email. Just picked up the hybrid kit for it. 


Right at the top of the post that you quoted:

EVGA_JacobF
Important update 3/19/21:
Newer EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA cards will be shipping with the XOC BIOS already loaded on the secondary position. The below BIOS should ONLY be installed if your card DID NOT already have it applied.
...


Installing the old VBIOS to the newer cards might work, or it might power limit you like installing the newer VBIOS from the OC3090 cards onto an older card will.

So, either use PX1 to update to the REBAR enabled air cooled VBIOS (will still work, just fan1 (the pump that runs at a constant speed no matter what) will throw off spurious readings.

Or email EVGA and ask for the REBAR updater for the OC3090 program for a hybrid kit card.
post edited by arestavo - 2021/04/22 12:45:17
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/22 13:30:06 (permalink)
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Uh no one here is saying that we received replacement cards that will be someone else's rma.
Besides, it doesn't mean anything.
Sincerely


I would like to refer you to your own posts. 
In case you forgot what you've posted. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/22 13:39:02 (permalink)
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Dasoa
Uh no one here is saying that we received replacement cards that will be someone else's rma.
Besides, it doesn't mean anything.
Sincerely


I would like to refer you to your own posts. 
In case you forgot what you've posted. 


Thank you but I know very well what I wrote.
However, I advise you to read carefully this time and especially to take your time...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/22 16:06:40 (permalink)
Honestly if they've been thoroughly tested/repaired (one of my cards had dead backplate RGB but otherwise worked perfectly fine) and carry full warranty, it doesn't really matter if they were someone else's RMA if they're in like-new condition. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/22 16:14:59 (permalink)
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If this helps: I couldn't deal with issues any more, card sold and I'm looking for literally anything else at this point. I have to sell my GPU block as well but it is what it is. The fact that even the BAR bios only eats 385-405W is shocking, 80W on PCI-E is shocking, can't sustain stable clocks and fluctuates like crazy. I honestly had enough. I will probably buy from the likes of MSI or any other partner in the future. It's impossible to get RMA from UK because I'd end up paying £600 in taxes, so any warranty that is supposed to be free replacement is not a free replacement. On top of that we have to pay for shipping to EVGA like the card malfunctioning is our fault. I'm done.

 
Please educate me as I'm not as familiar with VAT, import duties, etc that the EU has. How does a warranty exchange cost you £600? I can imagine the shipping is higher if it's not local but you're noting it as taxation. Isn't the EU supposed to be super protective of consumers? I totally get your frustration though. My card was exhibiting the exact same behavior, up to 82w on PCI-E slot and would rarely break 400w with the 500w bios with very poor OC capabilities on clocks as the card would continually register that it was power limited even though well under the power limits with plenty of overhead available. I am glad that they have this program in place for us though and that it's being addressed. The outbound freight is unfortunate but frankly having dealt with the electronics industry for a loooong time and having purchased hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of electronics for myself and immediate family, this is actually very normal. It's rare that a company will cover the shipping in both directions unless a dealer covers it for you on the outbound side.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/22 16:18:06 (permalink)
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I would like to know to those who received a "real" card from the oc3090 program (bios 500w pre-installed in position 2)especially the American customers, 
what kind of serial number (also ref) is written on the box they received?


I'll let you know when I get my replacement through the program. Mine original card gets to EVGA tomorrow. Hopefully they turn it around quickly since I paid for overnight.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/22 23:13:02 (permalink)
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Dasoa
1st card recovered and returned by my care because not in conformity with the specifications of the program 0c3090 (series 2112...) card received the 20 by rma europe.
Next: waiting to receive tomorrow 23 new card (series 2119...) 
...


Now I have the Number, it's Start with 2112.......

My card is also shipped now and start 2112
post edited by Raudkast - 2021/04/22 23:14:24
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/22 23:16:26 (permalink)
Yesterday they sent me the new card, I should have it Tuesday or Wednesday, I will tell you news.

Happy Friday!


 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/23 10:52:58 (permalink)
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InfusionOfFear
Anyone know if 
 
Is the bios for the 3090 FTW3 air cooled RMA email cards for the 500wats? I have an air-cooled rmaed card from the 3090email. Just picked up the hybrid kit for it. 


Right at the top of the post that you quoted:

EVGA_JacobF
Important update 3/19/21:
Newer EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA cards will be shipping with the XOC BIOS already loaded on the secondary position. The below BIOS should ONLY be installed if your card DID NOT already have it applied.
...


Installing the old VBIOS to the newer cards might work, or it might power limit you like installing the newer VBIOS from the OC3090 cards onto an older card will.

So, either use PX1 to update to the REBAR enabled air cooled VBIOS (will still work, just fan1 (the pump that runs at a constant speed no matter what) will throw off spurious readings.

Or email EVGA and ask for the REBAR updater for the OC3090 program for a hybrid kit card.



I have tried installing the old bios on my new revised card. The air bios works fine and in fact gives more power then the one that comes preinstalled. I haven't tried the FTW 3 hybrid bios but I have tried the Kingpin 520w, which is also a hybrid card, and it gives full power and works great as well.
post edited by zeejay - 2021/04/23 10:55:37
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/23 12:13:36 (permalink)
InfusionOfFear Anyone know if 
Is the bios for the 3090 FTW3 air cooled RMA email cards for the 500wats? I have an air-cooled rmaed card from the 3090email. Just picked up the hybrid kit for it. 



DO NOT DO IT!!!!  THAT BIOS IS TRASH! 
Stick with the air cooled BIOS, I've been back and forth with EVGA support for weeks, the HYBRID bios never worked.  it runs your fans at 100% via hardware, then with software over-ride you can get it down to 33%, but you can't go lower than that.   stick with air cooled BIOS until they make a working BIOS for HYBRIDS.  the air cooled lets you fully control your fans.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/23 16:00:24 (permalink)
Hey All... so, these BIOS's are supposed to just work, right?
 
I installed the XOC Bios on both OC and Normal, and I get litterally the exact same power draw from before and after, which doesn't seem to go over 420 W... suggestions?

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/23 16:19:57 (permalink)
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Hey All... so, these BIOS's are supposed to just work, right?
 
I installed the XOC Bios on both OC and Normal, and I get litterally the exact same power draw from before and after, which doesn't seem to go over 420 W... suggestions?


Check post number two in this thread.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/23 22:05:13 (permalink)
Does anyone know how much power is each fan supposed to draw at 100%?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/24 15:13:55 (permalink)
Getting a new 3090 FTW3 via step up today, have all the power issues been resolved? Need to decide between keeping my 3090 FE or this soon.How are the Tjunc temperatures on the latest batches? Thanks.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/24 18:25:09 (permalink)
I upgraded my RTX 3090 Utlra new OC bios and it's now showing 94.02.42.80.27 but I have a triangle ! and says resizable BAR disabled With there a lot post on this thread and it's hard to find the solution any ideas on what to do?

   
   
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/24 18:41:17 (permalink)
Card arrived Friday
Could test it today .. and .. well...

It was delivered with bios 94.02.42.80.14
... bios was locked at 450 watt

After starting X1 bios 94.02.42.80.15 was installed.
RBAR 500 watt bios - with power never exceeding 450 :lol:

Well... read it already here, so no surprise ...

I installed the kingpin 530 rbar bios which was recommended in thread - and with this the card can finally draw up to 495 watt. .. yeah

First test resulted in14903 points in port royal

Moded card with ekwb water cooler - so far I am finally happy with my 3090 FTW3 :)


But eVGA really need to fix this bios mess....
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/24 22:23:19 (permalink)
broski
Card arrived Friday
Could test it today .. and .. well...

It was delivered with bios 94.02.42.80.14
... bios was locked at 450 watt

After starting X1 bios 94.02.42.80.15 was installed.
RBAR 500 watt bios - with power never exceeding 450 :lol:

Well... read it already here, so no surprise ...

I installed the kingpin 530 rbar bios which was recommended in thread - and with this the card can finally draw up to 495 watt. .. yeah

First test resulted in14903 points in port royal

Moded card with ekwb water cooler - so far I am finally happy with my 3090 FTW3 :)


But eVGA really need to fix this bios mess....

can you share you oc  settings? for 14900 score? 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/24 22:32:16 (permalink)
broski
Card arrived Friday
Could test it today .. and .. well...

It was delivered with bios 94.02.42.80.14
... bios was locked at 450 watt

After starting X1 bios 94.02.42.80.15 was installed.
RBAR 500 watt bios - with power never exceeding 450 :lol:

Well... read it already here, so no surprise ...

I installed the kingpin 530 rbar bios which was recommended in thread - and with this the card can finally draw up to 495 watt. .. yeah

First test resulted in14903 points in port royal

Moded card with ekwb water cooler - so far I am finally happy with my 3090 FTW3 :)


But eVGA really need to fix this bios mess....

PCIE power draw with the kingpin bios? Further was it air cooled when you scored 14903?
post edited by elbramso - 2021/04/25 00:26:29

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/25 02:42:22 (permalink)
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Getting a new 3090 FTW3 via step up today, have all the power issues been resolved? Need to decide between keeping my 3090 FE or this soon.How are the Tjunc temperatures on the latest batches? Thanks.

Nothing has been resolved, no official statement from EVGA. Sell the FTW3 and keep the FE.
 
The problem is not the BIOS but the PCB design. As an FTW3 owner (have an RMA on the way) I wish I could tell you the good news but there isn't many.
post edited by Bepzinky - 2021/04/25 03:03:46
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/25 03:34:36 (permalink)
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broski
Card arrived Friday
Could test it today .. and .. well...

It was delivered with bios 94.02.42.80.14
... bios was locked at 450 watt

After starting X1 bios 94.02.42.80.15 was installed.
RBAR 500 watt bios - with power never exceeding 450 :lol:

Well... read it already here, so no surprise ...

I installed the kingpin 530 rbar bios which was recommended in thread - and with this the card can finally draw up to 495 watt. .. yeah

First test resulted in14903 points in port royal

Moded card with ekwb water cooler - so far I am finally happy with my 3090 FTW3 :)


But eVGA really need to fix this bios mess....

PCIE power draw with the kingpin bios? Further was it air cooled when you scored 14903?

I received my updated 3090 the other day.
 
It works great. Kingpin Re-Bar bios holds 520w+ average during gaming.
 
The left fan is a little wonky though - it only goes to 2000RPM instead of 3000 like the other 2 since it thinks it's a pump.
 
Average temp gaming can be upwards of 75C, up to 80max benchmarking, so a little toasty but otherwise fine I would say.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/25 04:03:21 (permalink)
80c at 520W? That's actually amazing cooler design, probably the only good thing about this model.
post edited by Bepzinky - 2021/04/25 04:06:45
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/25 08:08:07 (permalink)
My X1 says ReBar disabled, but NV System Info says Yes, and was enabled on my 3090 FE on the same rig. I am going to trust NV system Info over PX1 which can be quite glitchy....

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/25 09:49:57 (permalink)
I received my 3090 from EVGA on the 14th and it has a 2114XXX serial number. On the OC bios, everything is peachy. On the normal bios, the card boots up at 210mz core. I uninstalled X1, switched to Studio Driver, ran DDU in safe mode, restarted, installed the Nvidia Game Ready Driver in safe mode, restarted, flashed the normal bios in safe mode, and it booted at 210mhz. I installed Afterburner to see if X1 was causing my problems. Afterburner also showed 210 until I selected “unlock voltage control - third party”. It switched to 1800 core then I uninstalled AB and switched back to X1. Games are no longer choppy and unplayable but I’m concerned that this issue may occur again. I’ve experienced three BSODs, failure to sleep, and quirks with Windows Color Management Profiles. I’m also seeing that the 3rd 8 pin slot pulls 1/3rd of the first two.

Is anyone having a similar issue? I have the hybrid kit arriving and do not want to install it multiple times between RMAs.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/25 10:39:16 (permalink)
Guys just flash the original revision 500w bios on your new revision card, you can bypass the PCB design and get 500w power draw by pulling 160-170w through the first two 8 pins.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/25 10:43:37 (permalink)
I’ve got 500w draw all day on the new revision card using the original cards 500w bios. Sure the 3rd pin power stays under 110w but that doesn’t matter if my first 2 8 pins are at 165-170 w. Pcie power stays under 67 w. 500w draw in benchmarks and in game. Clocks are super stable and higher than ever. Temps are fine (hybrid kit) 62 C gpu core peak. Care scores 14,500 on the bios it came with but put the original XOC 500w on there, bam, 14,750 every time. Also was able to put the hybrid version on there as I’ve got a hybrid kit attached.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/25 10:51:31 (permalink)
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Getting a new 3090 FTW3 via step up today, have all the power issues been resolved? Need to decide between keeping my 3090 FE or this soon.How are the Tjunc temperatures on the latest batches? Thanks.

Nothing has been resolved, no official statement from EVGA. Sell the FTW3 and keep the FE.
 
The problem is not the BIOS but the PCB design. As an FTW3 owner (have an RMA on the way) I wish I could tell you the good news but there isn't many.


Looks like you missed a lot. Check post number 2 of this thread - I consolidated EVGA_Jacob's posts about their new RMA program for this issue.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/25 10:57:37 (permalink)
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sidm2K9
Getting a new 3090 FTW3 via step up today, have all the power issues been resolved? Need to decide between keeping my 3090 FE or this soon.How are the Tjunc temperatures on the latest batches? Thanks.

Nothing has been resolved, no official statement from EVGA. Sell the FTW3 and keep the FE.
 
The problem is not the BIOS but the PCB design. As an FTW3 owner (have an RMA on the way) I wish I could tell you the good news but there isn't many.


Looks like you missed a lot. Check post number 2 of this thread - I consolidated EVGA_Jacob's posts about their new RMA program for this issue.

You have a new revision card right? What’s your preferred bios for it? I have had excellent results hitting 500w using the original card’s XOC 500w bios. I haven’t felt the need to slap the kingpin bios on it yet, bc I hit 500w no issue.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/04/25 11:06:56 (permalink)
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Getting a new 3090 FTW3 via step up today, have all the power issues been resolved? Need to decide between keeping my 3090 FE or this soon.How are the Tjunc temperatures on the latest batches? Thanks.

Nothing has been resolved, no official statement from EVGA. Sell the FTW3 and keep the FE.
 
The problem is not the BIOS but the PCB design. As an FTW3 owner (have an RMA on the way) I wish I could tell you the good news but there isn't many.


Looks like you missed a lot. Check post number 2 of this thread - I consolidated EVGA_Jacob's posts about their new RMA program for this issue.

You have a new revision card right? What’s your preferred bios for it? I have had excellent results hitting 500w using the original card’s XOC 500w bios. I haven’t felt the need to slap the kingpin bios on it yet, bc I hit 500w no issue.

So far the KP BIOS has been the best for me on the revision card. I am seeing over 520 watts in wow retail with just the power limit slider slid up to 20%. It might mess with fans though. I wouldn't know about that part I am under water.

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