TheHyperMatrix
Just set up the FTW3 Hydro Copper.  It is by far the worst chip I've ever seen.  Can barely get it stable at 2100MHz even with relatively cool temps.  And that's with liquid metal TIM.  On the plus side....it can actually pull 500W of power to do all of nothing.

Crazy, I just got a FTW Hydrocopper as well.  It has no power balancing issues, came loaded with the 500w BIOS on the OC slot and I have been testing with that BIOS and have already gotten up to 15.4k
 
Calling it quits here for the night. 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/937838

No any help, tested xc3 bios, a little is better but it doesn't matter which bios is installed, def bios max 14000 PR and everyone else 14300-14400 max...even water cooling does not change anything!!! Gays, don't buy this card...before I had a MSI Ventus 3090 water-cooled and also hit 14000 and only 350w bios, this ftw3 card is a joke!!! I was still very stupid to buy it! I just had no choice...

can someone link the XOC3 bios that people seem to be using and getting the card to work properly?   

Turbo-12R

Raudkast
No any help, tested xc3 bios, a little is better but it doesn't matter which bios is installed, def bios max 14000 PR and everyone else 14300-14400 max...even water cooling does not change anything!!! Gays, don't buy this card...before I had a MSI Ventus 3090 water-cooled and also hit 14000 and only 350w bios, this ftw3 card is a joke!!! I was still very stupid to buy it! I just had no choice...

Instead of getting upset about it, try reading a page of two back to see what steps EVGA has taken to rectify the problem.
 
And to put things into perspective, the card can only be perceived as a "joke" by those 3DMark jockeys that are going for top benchmarks.  Reality is you have lost about 3-5% performance.
 
Kinda funny how EVGA has stepped up to take care of things and people are still whining.
 
 

People are waiting this steps half year! They have done nothing, what do You think I haven't read on this topic either?

Raudkast
 


People are waiting this steps half year! They have done nothing, what do You think I haven't read on this topic either?

 
Yep, I've been in the first batch for both the 3080 and 3090.  So I would be one of those people.
 
I guess your timing at complaining about it just seems kind of suspect since they have taken action with RMA's   Sort of a damned if they do and damned if they don't thing.
 
Be appreciative they took any action as there is nothing in the original specs that says it should achieve over 400W.

Turbo-12R
 
Yep, I've been in the first batch for both the 3080 and 3090.  So I would be one of those people.
 
I guess your timing at complaining about it just seems kind of suspect since they have taken action with RMA's   Sort of a damned if they do and damned if they don't thing.
 
Be appreciative they took any action as there is nothing in the original specs that says it should achieve over 400W.

My frustration (and at least one other poster) and 'timing' is EVGA were shipping new cards with this balancing issue the exact same day they were allowing cards to be returned to fix the fault.
 
That makes no sense. 
 
Once a problem is identified I would have expected new cards to be tested to ensure they weren't going to be part of an RMA process where I will be without a card for a week and also on the hook for the return shipping costs????  
 

Cool GTX

zig11727

Turbo-12R

Raudkast
No any help, tested xc3 bios, a little is better but it doesn't matter which bios is installed, def bios max 14000 PR and everyone else 14300-14400 max...even water cooling does not change anything!!! Gays, don't buy this card...before I had a MSI Ventus 3090 water-cooled and also hit 14000 and only 350w bios, this ftw3 card is a joke!!! I was still very stupid to buy it! I just had no choice...

Instead of getting upset about it, try reading a page of two back to see what steps EVGA has taken to rectify the problem.
 
And to put things into perspective, the card can only be perceived as a "joke" by those 3DMark jockeys that are going for top benchmarks.  Reality is you have lost about 3-5% performance.
 
Kinda funny how EVGA has stepped up to take care of things and people are still whining.
 
 

Yes EVGA did step up and I'm greatful but it costing $150 shipping both ways and there shouldn't been a problem in the first place.
 
 

 
Both ways ?
 
If you RMA a product - you only pay to ship it to EVGA - EVGA pays the return shipping

Yes they would paid ground shipping for the return shipping but it would take 7 to 10 business days to arrival so again I going to state in my case it's problem that shouldn't be there in the first place and if I used the regular RMA it wouldn't be problem at all I would do a advance RMA.

Any word on when this solution will be available in the EU ?
 
I posted couple of pages back that my 2112 serial ftw3 ultra can do 445w on stock bios. However after further testing even on the XOC 500w bios, I can definitely see that the issue is there. It goes above 430ish only for fraction of a second peaks, but no matter what its still PWR perfcapped and the PCIE power is 80ish which is out of spec and the reason for the perfcap.
 
Kinda sad I did not read this thread before I got this card. If the replacement program means I have to send it back wait a couple of weeks to get a new one, f-that, I will just sell it and get a better one from a different brand. Though I will regret it because this one can do +1500 mem clock which is rare.
 
BTW just to throw in my limited knowledge in electronics, this is definitely an issue with the PCIe power being too high which is caused by hardware configuration of the board, no bios will ever fix this unless they allow it to go out of spec on PCIe or you shunt mod the pcie shunt. The ratio at which each power delivery point is utilised is given by the design of the pcb and how the separate rails are configured physically, it has nothing to do with the analog voltage controller which is mentioned here a lot. Analog does not automatically mean it is worse than digital and has no impact on this issue, it can even be better in some cases.

zig11727

xeqtr544
Any word on when this solution will be available in the EU ?
 
I posted couple of pages back that my 2112 serial ftw3 ultra can do 445w on stock bios. However after further testing even on the XOC 500w bios, I can definitely see that the issue is there. It goes above 430ish only for fraction of a second peaks, but no matter what its still PWR perfcapped and the PCIE power is 80ish which is out of spec and the reason for the perfcap.
 
Kinda sad I did not read this thread before I got this card. If the replacement program means I have to send it back wait a couple of weeks to get a new one, f-that, I will just sell it and get a better one from a different brand. Though I will regret it because this one can do +1500 mem clock which is rare.
 
BTW just to throw in my limited knowledge in electronics, this is definitely an issue with the PCIe power being too high which is caused by hardware configuration of the board, no bios will ever fix this unless they allow it to go out of spec on PCIe or you shunt mod the pcie shunt. The ratio at which each power delivery point is utilised is given by the design of the pcb and how the separate rails are configured physically, it has nothing to do with the analog voltage controller which is mentioned here a lot. Analog does not automatically mean it is worse than digital and has no impact on this issue, it can even be better in some cases.

I contacted support via phone and complained that PCI-E slot was drawing over 80 watts with the stock bios and I was told this was within margin. Now I'm in the same boat as you I have to layout $150.00 for shipping otherwise I be without a card for a month no advance RMA. Yes I'm great full they fix the problem and offer an RMA but there shouldn't been a problem to begin with.

The margin is 75W max on the PCIE slot for power draw. It's the universal PCIE specification, and if EVGA wants to put PCIE anywhere on their marketing material, card, boxes, etc., they must follow the spec.
 
If they refuse an RMA for out of tolerance PCIE power draw on the stock VBIOS (not the XOC) without GPU or VRAM overclock, get it in writing and you can contact the Better Business Bureau, or contact Gamer's Nexus who ripped AMD a new one for out of spec PCIE slot power draw with their RX480 cards (they were forced to update the drivers and VBIOS to get it into spec), and/or you can take them to small claims court and get your money back and go buy a different brand.

koroem

raiden2a

koroem
Has anyone that talked to evga confimed that people who installed a waterblock need to complete reassemble the block to working order? I have the original pads which are in good order, I'm more concerned with the hassle and added expense of both shipping and new putty. If not it really isn't cool that Evga released faulty hardware and is putting the expense of the fix on the customer.

I'd much rather just slap the original cooler back on the unit with the proper hardware and send it on its way since evga should be tearing them down to check them in the rma process anyways.

Also, no cross shipping at all? Anyone get a card back from this yet?

Yes, I had an Optimus block on my FTW.  In my email chain with the rep when I sent my data to the 3090evga.com account; They said they need it back to stock form with thermal pads replaced and paste applied so they can do internal testing on the cards we send.   He mentioned to keep the original box, if i sent the card back in that box i would not get it back... Just a blank RMA box with a new card in it.  
 
It took me 12hrs to get an RMA number but i was able to **** the next morning. The card was delivered to EVGA today but stated it could take 1-3 days before the new card is sent.   

Got recommendations on replacement pads/putty then?

Thanks for bringing this topic guys, I'm also wondering what pads and thermal compound to use to put back the Air Cooler as It was impossible to keep them, all went off when I took off the block to install the Hybdrid Kit. I honestly don't know the exact mm of the thermal pads used on each part and they were very soft, if you pulled them they broke very easy. 

Thank You!

Guys
 
What version of Windows 10 are you running and what NVIDIA Drivers?
 
I'm on Windows 10 64 Bit Pro Version 20H2 Build 19042.867 and NVIDIA Drivers 461.72, and I know that earlier version of Windows 10 are better for Scores and also Drivers like 461.09.
 
Thank You!

this was using msi msi kombustor
this card don't have any problems.
 2014 serial number
 

Lord Winchester

esschallert

Lord Winchester

esschallert

EVGA_JacobF

Luigi408
Hi @EVGA_JacobF, will this expand later on to cover the 3090 Hybrid Ultras as well? Just wondering if us 3090 Hybrid Ultra owners will eventually be covered. My guess it will take some time to get the final product out with the fixes + hybrid not being as popular as the regular cards doesn’t help either. Thanks.

It will expanding to include all 3090 "FTW3" cards. HYBRID, HC, etc.

When or even will the RMA be possible in EU, im from Germany.

Good question. I also want to know that.

@esschallert, you might want to also get in Contact with EVGA Germany on Facebook.

Anita is a really nice Employee to talk to. She helped me out with my last RMA

Yeah will contact them and ask them if they know something. One problem is though I already have both Alphacool waterblocks installed, for putting the standard cooler on there I would need putty and pads, that would be the main problem I think.

You just need "some" thermal compound.


Take this and squish it between the Ram, VRM and Mosfets:

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01E3WXWIW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use this to dissipate heat from the VRM´s on the Bykski Waterblock (i bridge almost 1cm of Gap with this stuff)

Well, have to RMA it now anyway, card just died. Red LED next to the 3x 8 Pin power is lighting. So today I swap it with my second 3090 and RMA the dead one.

Sultan.of.swing

TheHyperMatrix
Just set up the FTW3 Hydro Copper.  It is by far the worst chip I've ever seen.  Can barely get it stable at 2100MHz even with relatively cool temps.  And that's with liquid metal TIM.  On the plus side....it can actually pull 500W of power to do all of nothing.

Crazy, I just got a FTW Hydrocopper as well.  It has no power balancing issues, came loaded with the 500w BIOS on the OC slot and I have been testing with that BIOS and have already gotten up to 15.4k
 
Calling it quits here for the night. 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/937838

You got quite a lot of luck there.  This chip here is worse than I thought any 3090 could be while under 40C.  I didn't think it was possible for a card to be unstable at 2100MHz while below 40C.  And even while reporting 2100MHz, Thermspy is showing 2040-2060MHz actual clock speed.  Gonna sell it cheap and pretend this purchase never happened.  Such a bad chip.  Instant freeze/crash if I try just something basic like setting offset to +115MHz.  Too bad the load balancing is working properly on it.  Otherwise I'd RMA it.

seems to have got real lively in here lately