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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 08:14:26
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500W with XOC, stock 450W, if you see anything below it's not up to par.
Also PCI-E should be 75W or below.
Im reading that using the XC3 bios fixes the load balancing issue, so if I use the XC3 bios on my FTW3 3090 HC Will it help me pull 500 watts and fix load balancing or just load balancing and will keep the watts at 366?
Your 3090 HC has power balancing issues? That’s odd...I thought these come from the same pool as the FTW3 replacement program cards. Mine came pre-installed with the 500W BIOS like the replacement cards do and doesn’t have issues pulling 500W.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 08:17:04
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500W with XOC, stock 450W, if you see anything below it's not up to par.
Also PCI-E should be 75W or below.
Im reading that using the XC3 bios fixes the load balancing issue, so if I use the XC3 bios on my FTW3 3090 HC Will it help me pull 500 watts and fix load balancing or just load balancing and will keep the watts at 366?
It might. It will report wattage incorrectly but core clock stays wayyyy higher up now.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 08:17:39
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500W with XOC, stock 450W, if you see anything below it's not up to par.
Also PCI-E should be 75W or below.
Im reading that using the XC3 bios fixes the load balancing issue, so if I use the XC3 bios on my FTW3 3090 HC Will it help me pull 500 watts and fix load balancing or just load balancing and will keep the watts at 366?
Your 3090 HC has power balancing issues? That’s odd...I thought these come from the same pool as the FTW3 replacement program cards.
Mine came pre-installed with the 500W BIOS like the replacement cards do and doesn’t have issues pulling 500W.
Port royale has me pulling over 75 watts at the pcie. From what I read that is enough to RMA and claim a load balancing issue? My 3 pin pulls a little less watts than the other two but not a huge amount
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 08:23:00
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500W with XOC, stock 450W, if you see anything below it's not up to par.
Also PCI-E should be 75W or below.
Im reading that using the XC3 bios fixes the load balancing issue, so if I use the XC3 bios on my FTW3 3090 HC Will it help me pull 500 watts and fix load balancing or just load balancing and will keep the watts at 366?
It might. It will report wattage incorrectly but core clock stays wayyyy higher up now.
Interesting. I have a little log of my temps from .9mv to 1.081v, so I can try the XC3 bios and see where my temps are with it and correlate to the voltage. If the XC3 bios fixes my issue I probably won’t RMA. Considering I live ~20 miles from evga here in Los Angeles it won’t be an ordeal hopefully.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 08:42:11
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500W with XOC, stock 450W, if you see anything below it's not up to par.
Also PCI-E should be 75W or below.
Im reading that using the XC3 bios fixes the load balancing issue, so if I use the XC3 bios on my FTW3 3090 HC Will it help me pull 500 watts and fix load balancing or just load balancing and will keep the watts at 366?
It might. It will report wattage incorrectly but core clock stays wayyyy higher up now.
Interesting. I have a little log of my temps from .9mv to 1.081v, so I can try the XC3 bios and see where my temps are with it and correlate to the voltage.
If the XC3 bios fixes my issue I probably won’t RMA. Considering I live ~20 miles from evga here in Los Angeles it won’t be an ordeal hopefully.
Try it, scores in TimeSpy didn't change much maybe +200 to GPU score but that could be margin of error.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 09:19:08
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500W with XOC, stock 450W, if you see anything below it's not up to par.
Also PCI-E should be 75W or below.
Im reading that using the XC3 bios fixes the load balancing issue, so if I use the XC3 bios on my FTW3 3090 HC Will it help me pull 500 watts and fix load balancing or just load balancing and will keep the watts at 366?
Your 3090 HC has power balancing issues? That’s odd...I thought these come from the same pool as the FTW3 replacement program cards.
Mine came pre-installed with the 500W BIOS like the replacement cards do and doesn’t have issues pulling 500W.
Port royale has me pulling over 75 watts at the pcie. From what I read that is enough to RMA and claim a load balancing issue? My 3 pin pulls a little less watts than the other two but not a huge amount
Dang, I thought EVGA had it all sorted with the HydroCoppers. Is it pulling over 75W constantly or just peaks? Mine pulls between 66-72W from the PCI-E slot while running Furmark and Time Spy/Port Royal on the 500W BIOS. The peak was 76.2W but that only happened once for a split second, haven’t seen it go past that.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 11:24:55
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All the same issues here with my FTW3 Ultra, I submitted my RMA last Thursday with screen shots, registered card etc. No acknowledgment as yet.. Is this a typical experience for others?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 12:23:58
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I just got this in my Email!
Hello Jonathan,
Thank you for reaching out to us in regards to you GPU Please read over the following information and reply back should you have any further Questions or if You are ready to set up your RMA.
This offer is ONLY for owners of the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA (24G-P4-3987-KR). EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA owners may request a 1-time replacement with a new card that MAY allow you to reach a higher power usage while overclocking
In the reply they still say P4 I have the P5 and in this thread it said P5 right?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 12:26:36
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I just got this in my Email!
Hello Jonathan,
Thank you for reaching out to us in regards to you GPU Please read over the following information and reply back should you have any further Questions or if You are ready to set up your RMA.
This offer is ONLY for owners of the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA (24G-P4-3987-KR). EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA owners may request a 1-time replacement with a new card that MAY allow you to reach a higher power usage while overclocking
In the reply they still say P4 I have the P5 and in this thread it said P5 right?
you from europe or usa?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 12:59:11
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500W with XOC, stock 450W, if you see anything below it's not up to par.
Also PCI-E should be 75W or below.
Im reading that using the XC3 bios fixes the load balancing issue, so if I use the XC3 bios on my FTW3 3090 HC Will it help me pull 500 watts and fix load balancing or just load balancing and will keep the watts at 366?
Your 3090 HC has power balancing issues? That’s odd...I thought these come from the same pool as the FTW3 replacement program cards.
Mine came pre-installed with the 500W BIOS like the replacement cards do and doesn’t have issues pulling 500W.
Port royale has me pulling over 75 watts at the pcie. From what I read that is enough to RMA and claim a load balancing issue? My 3 pin pulls a little less watts than the other two but not a huge amount
Dang, I thought EVGA had it all sorted with the HydroCoppers. Is it pulling over 75W constantly or just peaks?
Mine pulls between 66-72W from the PCI-E slot while running Furmark and Time Spy/Port Royal on the 500W BIOS. The peak was 76.2W but that only happened once for a split second, haven’t seen it go past that.
I will have to check again if it it was constant or peaks, but my max was at 77 or so. I’d like to say it wasn’t constant but only peaks if I try to remember I won’t be home for a few days so I can’t check until Thursday unfortunately
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 14:06:41
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I just got this in my Email!
Hello Jonathan,
Thank you for reaching out to us in regards to you GPU Please read over the following information and reply back should you have any further Questions or if You are ready to set up your RMA.
This offer is ONLY for owners of the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA (24G-P4-3987-KR). EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA owners may request a 1-time replacement with a new card that MAY allow you to reach a higher power usage while overclocking
In the reply they still say P4 I have the P5 and in this thread it said P5 right?
Yes I think it was updated (typo fixed) by Jacob. What was your email response time? Mine has been 3 business days.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 14:11:56
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I managed to get to top 30 TimeSpy with XC3 BIOS on the GPU. I wonder if Kingpin 1000W bios at 550-600W would help to climb higher. So the XC3 BIOS definitely helps but not by a lot, maybe 1-3%. Yet again, GPU score pulling me down.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 14:16:31
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All the same issues here with my FTW3 Ultra, I submitted my RMA last Thursday with screen shots, registered card etc. No acknowledgment as yet.. Is this a typical experience for others?
Same here. 5 days and not any response.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 14:30:18
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I managed to get to top 30 TimeSpy with XC3 BIOS on the GPU. I wonder if Kingpin 1000W bios at 550-600W would help to climb higher.
So the XC3 BIOS definitely helps but not by a lot, maybe 1-3%.
Yet again, GPU score pulling me down.
That seems pretty good though overall. Maybe I need to push mine higher but I took my settings from my port royal bench and just ran timespy here. Your graphics score is a 1000 pts better than mine. I am not sure how much the cpu/memory affect that score so maybe it's more that. Your cpu score destroyed mine as I just have a 9900ks at 5.1ghz on a 360mm aio. I felt good about my score when doing PR but now I feel like my score is subpar but again could be a lot of things. I know PR is really more about just the GPU where timespy is much more about gpu/cpu etc. For reference this was on my 3090 ftw3 hybrid on OC bios which is the XOC bios (500w) which it did pull 500w for this. My new kingpin 3090 showed up today so I am hoping to see what the differences are there. I hope the power balance is far better and temps are improved as well in addition to having the better OC tools. I guess I am still trying to figure out if my ftw3 hybrid is RMA worthy, I think it is but no one here seems sure.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 14:56:38
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My one doesn't pull 500W. Wait until I get my hands on 1000W KNP bios ;)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 15:23:16
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how are my results. it sucks because i just found out about this, and i literally just put on a full EKWB + backplate on it. this was after a full 3dmark benchmark run through. .JPG)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 15:23:20
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My one doesn't pull 500W. Wait until I get my hands on 1000W KNP bios ;)
Closed loop water cooling then? Or is your card just silicon lottery winner? Or both? I assume you don't have power balance issues then, just low power draw?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 15:25:05
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My one doesn't pull 500W. Wait until I get my hands on 1000W KNP bios ;)
Closed loop water cooling then? Or is your card just silicon lottery winner? Or both? I assume you don't have power balance issues then, just low power draw?
I have power balancing issues. Severe one I just know how to squeeze every point out of everything. But yes I run 9x 480mm XE rads with 40 Noctua Industrial 3000RPM fans no biggie tho haha
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 16:09:16
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I have power balancing issues. Severe one I just know how to squeeze every point out of everything.
But yes I run 9x 480mm XE rads with 40 Noctua Industrial 3000RPM fans no biggie tho haha
9 480 Rads? I would love to see that contraption 😅
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 16:43:42
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I have power balancing issues. Severe one I just know how to squeeze every point out of everything.
But yes I run 9x 480mm XE rads with 40 Noctua Industrial 3000RPM fans no biggie tho haha
9 480 Rads?
I would love to see that contraption 😅
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 17:16:27
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I just got this in my Email!
Hello Jonathan,
Thank you for reaching out to us in regards to you GPU Please read over the following information and reply back should you have any further Questions or if You are ready to set up your RMA.
This offer is ONLY for owners of the EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA (24G-P4-3987-KR). EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA owners may request a 1-time replacement with a new card that MAY allow you to reach a higher power usage while overclocking
In the reply they still say P4 I have the P5 and in this thread it said P5 right?
Yes I think it was updated (typo fixed) by Jacob. What was your email response time? Mine has been 3 business days.
Correct. It's a typo. I'll remind our team to make sure it's fixed for future responses.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 17:57:20
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 18:40:27
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this was using msi msi kombustor
this card don't have any problems.
2014 serial number
I like how you say, your card doesn't have a problem, while your PCIe Slot power peaks at 79Watts even when undervolted to 0.975V
Its up to you, if you want to RMA, but I think you got a reason for it.
Thankfully my X299 EVGA Dark has extra 6 pin power for PCI-E so if I had your card I wouldn't have been worried and I'd be happy since it takes 500W tbf with you.
I am not going the RMA it. I got the gpu voltage the run higher now it just pulls about 78.7 or the pci power . I don't think it is a problem if out of spec has long has it pulls the right power from the 3 plugs.it is a very good card i get 14600 on pr . and it runs 2115 to 2130 in bf5 1440p. 135 Core and 1000 memory. no crashing yet.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/15 23:32:16
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I did a Furmark run to test an overclock on my 3090 with XOC bios. High slot peak (88.3W) but relatively equal power distribution I guess. Voltage peaked at 1.087. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/16 00:29:47
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I did a Furmark run to test an overclock on my 3090 with XOC bios. High slot peak (88.3W) but relatively equal power distribution I guess. Voltage peaked at 1.087.
That's horrible.... I mean, you are pulling 510 Watt, but almost 90 Watt from PCIe? Also, you power distribution is completely off. 32 Watt between highest and lowest is bad. Is it at least a good overclocker?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/16 01:19:58
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No it is not unfortunately. 88W from the PCIe is frightening even if it is a peak.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/16 01:34:41
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I used XC3 BIOs and scores in TimeSpy have no changed almost at all, but average clock speed changed! Instead of 2033 with XOC bios, now average clock speed is 2152Mhz with 2220Mhz max.
Now check Port Royal and games - Time Spy hits the GPU harder than most games or PR.
Just a quick one since you wrote the guide on NVFlash which worked a treat thank you. Do you know of anyone who flashed KNP 1000W BIOS to their 3090 FTW3 Ultra P5? I know you don't recommend it and you are more like against it, but I just wanted to give it a try and then flash back I have very strong cooling. Do you know which BIOS is the one that I need to flash to on the TechPowerUp, and will it work like the XC3 (as in displayport etc matches?) I understand that PCI-E might eat 80W or so, but it's okay since my X299 EVGA Dark has supplementary 6-pin power. Thanks in advance and I appreciate the help
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/16 01:49:38
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No it is not unfortunately. 88W from the PCIe is frightening even if it is a peak.
RMA it is then😉
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/03/16 02:30:47
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you from europe or usa?
USA. Sent a email on Sunday got a reply Monday.
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