arestavo

TheNaitsyrk

arestavo

TheNaitsyrk
I used XC3 BIOs and scores in TimeSpy have no changed almost at all, but average clock speed changed! Instead of 2033 with XOC bios, now average clock speed is 2152Mhz with 2220Mhz max.

Now check Port Royal and games - Time Spy hits the GPU harder than most games or PR.

Just a quick one since you wrote the guide on NVFlash which worked a treat thank you.
 
Do you know of anyone who flashed KNP 1000W BIOS to their 3090 FTW3 Ultra P5?
 
I know you don't recommend it and you are more like against it, but I just wanted to give it a try and then flash back I have very strong cooling. Do you know which BIOS is the one that I need to flash to on the TechPowerUp, and will it work like the XC3 (as in displayport etc matches?)
 
I understand that PCI-E might eat 80W or so, but it's okay since my X299 EVGA Dark has supplementary 6-pin power.
 
Thanks in advance and I appreciate the help

Yeah. Someone contacted me about it, and I posted about it here (without naming them). Their power limited card pulled over 90W (93W continuous IIRC, not spikes) on the PCIE slot to achieve 500W total power draw and clocked worse than with the XC3 VBIOS. They use the XC3 VBIOS and get better results.

Post 3215 in this thread has a guide with links. I'm on a cellphone atm so finding it isn't easy.

Thanks for additional info.

I found your post and I use it as guide thank you.

I'll double think before I flash it.

dlomond
Even gamer Nexus review of the card was pulling 80w from the pci slot. 90w is high seems high. The most I ever saw with my card was 79w.

Can you link me?

TheNaitsyrk

dlomond
Even gamer Nexus review of the card was pulling 80w from the pci slot. 90w is high seems high. The most I ever saw with my card was 79w.

Can you link me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayGS51-xl5g Note comments on TJ max look to be pre memory junction temp being exposed in software by the likes of CPU-Z and HWinfo (?)

Do anyone have a fix 3090 gpuz report what do the the power slot draw .

MythicHitman
What bios's can be tried on the FTW3 Hybrid 3090s? can I safely flash the XC3 bios onto that card? I know they are weird about Skus being different with the bios's

Edit: Also Can I safely put the KP1000w bios on and set to 50% power target and see if that works..? Does it void warranty etc etc...

I want to flash and I'm a little scared. However, I had supplementary 6 pin in the mobo so should be okay, and I only want to test speed (what the GPU is capable of) then flash back. 90W on PCI-E is not healthy and people who said it's there as in the 90W have no reason to lie so yeah.

I will have absolutely 0 problems cooling it, however I would love to know what my GPU could've been if I had it at the 500W.

I flashed XC3 BIOS and the scores haven't changed almost at all, but core clock stays stable at 2160-2180 the entire time (although doesn't impact performance almost at all)

Lord Winchester

esschallert

Lord Winchester

esschallert

EVGA_JacobF

Luigi408
Hi @EVGA_JacobF, will this expand later on to cover the 3090 Hybrid Ultras as well? Just wondering if us 3090 Hybrid Ultra owners will eventually be covered. My guess it will take some time to get the final product out with the fixes + hybrid not being as popular as the regular cards doesn’t help either. Thanks.

It will expanding to include all 3090 "FTW3" cards. HYBRID, HC, etc.

When or even will the RMA be possible in EU, im from Germany.

Good question. I also want to know that.

@esschallert, you might want to also get in Contact with EVGA Germany on Facebook.

Anita is a really nice Employee to talk to. She helped me out with my last RMA

Yeah will contact them and ask them if they know something. One problem is though I already have both Alphacool waterblocks installed, for putting the standard cooler on there I would need putty and pads, that would be the main problem I think.

You just need "some" thermal compound.


Take this and squish it between the Ram, VRM and Mosfets:

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01E3WXWIW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use this to dissipate heat from the VRM´s on the Bykski Waterblock (i bridge almost 1cm of Gap with this stuff)

Well, have to RMA it now anyway, card just died. Red LED next to the 3x 8 Pin power is lighting. So today I swap it with my second 3090 and RMA the dead one.
 
EDIT: Contacted the German EVGA support on Facebook as well as on ticket with the RMA. So for Germany (and for the general EU) there isn't a replacement program yet for the power balance issue. However I explained the problem in detail and I was assured that they test the new card before it is shipped out so the card which I should receive should not have the power balance issue and should do the normal 450 Watt (without XOC). My current card, which died. Did only a maximum of around 390 Watt but in general more between 370-380 Watt.
 
The weird thing with my card was also that despite setting the OC to 100 or 200 MHz on the core. It would peak at that and also report this as maximum clock in PR but the average clock throughout the benchmark was around 1850-1890 MHz (Watercooled with temps around 35-39 °C)

TheNaitsyrk

arestavo

MastahFR
arestavo so you also had the problem ? You did an RMA invoking the card going above 75W on PCIE slot ?
What's about the new card, is it better ?

Mine can't do above 410W and is at 75-78W on PCIE slot. The card is 100% of the time PWR limited (perfcap reason : pwr).
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SN: 2012533xxxxxxxxxxxxx China

Yes, up to 82W continuous power draw, depending on the game, on the stock VBIOS with no manual GPU or VRAM overclock which maxed out at around 430W at most. The replacement pulls 76W stock and I've seen 460W power draw with the 500W VBIOS. The XC3 VBIOS is still better, because it lowers the PCIE slot power draw to around 66W and allows the card to draw ~500W total.

I've posted this multiple times before for people to read.

Finally found the post that I needed.
 
I'll try to see power usage in iCue from my AX1600i to see whether it's actually pulling 500W for GPU with XC3 BIOS. If it does happy days.

Which XC3 bios did you used and is there any problems with it, since the XC3 ultra card uses only 2x8pin connectors? Is it safe to flash it to the FTW3 Ultra?

esschallert

Lord Winchester

esschallert

Lord Winchester

esschallert

EVGA_JacobF

Luigi408
Hi @EVGA_JacobF, will this expand later on to cover the 3090 Hybrid Ultras as well? Just wondering if us 3090 Hybrid Ultra owners will eventually be covered. My guess it will take some time to get the final product out with the fixes + hybrid not being as popular as the regular cards doesn’t help either. Thanks.

It will expanding to include all 3090 "FTW3" cards. HYBRID, HC, etc.

When or even will the RMA be possible in EU, im from Germany.

Good question. I also want to know that.

@esschallert, you might want to also get in Contact with EVGA Germany on Facebook.

Anita is a really nice Employee to talk to. She helped me out with my last RMA

Yeah will contact them and ask them if they know something. One problem is though I already have both Alphacool waterblocks installed, for putting the standard cooler on there I would need putty and pads, that would be the main problem I think.

You just need "some" thermal compound.


Take this and squish it between the Ram, VRM and Mosfets:

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01E3WXWIW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use this to dissipate heat from the VRM´s on the Bykski Waterblock (i bridge almost 1cm of Gap with this stuff)

Well, have to RMA it now anyway, card just died. Red LED next to the 3x 8 Pin power is lighting. So today I swap it with my second 3090 and RMA the dead one.
 
EDIT: Contacted the German EVGA support on Facebook as well as on ticket with the RMA. So for Germany (and for the general EU) there isn't a replacement program yet for the power balance issue. However I explained the problem in detail and I was assured that they test the new card before it is shipped out so the card which I should receive should not have the power balance issue and should do the normal 450 Watt (without XOC). My current card, which died. Did only a maximum of around 390 Watt but in general more between 370-380 Watt.
 
The weird thing with my card was also that despite setting the OC to 100 or 200 MHz on the core. It would peak at that and also report this as maximum clock in PR but the average clock throughout the benchmark was around 1850-1890 MHz (Watercooled with temps around 35-39 °C)

 
That's most likely because you were severely power limited, so the clock wasn't able to get to the desired clocks under real load.
 
 
I'm getting really afraid of my card dying now...
 
 

Lord Winchester

esschallert

Lord Winchester

esschallert

Lord Winchester

esschallert

EVGA_JacobF

Luigi408
Hi @EVGA_JacobF, will this expand later on to cover the 3090 Hybrid Ultras as well? Just wondering if us 3090 Hybrid Ultra owners will eventually be covered. My guess it will take some time to get the final product out with the fixes + hybrid not being as popular as the regular cards doesn’t help either. Thanks.

It will expanding to include all 3090 "FTW3" cards. HYBRID, HC, etc.

When or even will the RMA be possible in EU, im from Germany.

Good question. I also want to know that.

@esschallert, you might want to also get in Contact with EVGA Germany on Facebook.

Anita is a really nice Employee to talk to. She helped me out with my last RMA

Yeah will contact them and ask them if they know something. One problem is though I already have both Alphacool waterblocks installed, for putting the standard cooler on there I would need putty and pads, that would be the main problem I think.

You just need "some" thermal compound.


Take this and squish it between the Ram, VRM and Mosfets:

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01E3WXWIW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I use this to dissipate heat from the VRM´s on the Bykski Waterblock (i bridge almost 1cm of Gap with this stuff)

Well, have to RMA it now anyway, card just died. Red LED next to the 3x 8 Pin power is lighting. So today I swap it with my second 3090 and RMA the dead one.
 
EDIT: Contacted the German EVGA support on Facebook as well as on ticket with the RMA. So for Germany (and for the general EU) there isn't a replacement program yet for the power balance issue. However I explained the problem in detail and I was assured that they test the new card before it is shipped out so the card which I should receive should not have the power balance issue and should do the normal 450 Watt (without XOC). My current card, which died. Did only a maximum of around 390 Watt but in general more between 370-380 Watt.
 
The weird thing with my card was also that despite setting the OC to 100 or 200 MHz on the core. It would peak at that and also report this as maximum clock in PR but the average clock throughout the benchmark was around 1850-1890 MHz (Watercooled with temps around 35-39 °C)

 
That's most likely because you were severely power limited, so the clock wasn't able to get to the desired clocks under real load.
 
 
I'm getting really afraid of my card dying now...
 
 

Same with my second card now. Power Limit is a bit higher here reaching around 390 Watt, however if I get my replacement I send my second card also in so they can check and replace it.

dlomond
Do anyone have a fix 3090 gpuz report what do the the power slot draw .

Sure do, Working 500w bios GPuz power draw 
 
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esschallert
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EDIT: Contacted the German EVGA support on Facebook as well as on ticket with the RMA. So for Germany (and for the general EU) there isn't a replacement program yet for the power balance issue. However I explained the problem in detail and I was assured that they test the new card before it is shipped out so the card which I should receive should not have the power balance issue and should do the normal 450 Watt (without XOC). My current card, which died. Did only a maximum of around 390 Watt but in general more between 370-380 Watt.
 
The weird thing with my card was also that despite setting the OC to 100 or 200 MHz on the core. It would peak at that and also report this as maximum clock in PR but the average clock throughout the benchmark was around 1850-1890 MHz (Watercooled with temps around 35-39 °C)

They totally lied. I RMA my card because she was doing 80W on PCIe and only 400W max (with 500W bios). The replacement card was doing 80W PCIe and 420-425W max on 500W bios. That was 3 days ago. I got ride of the evga card right after that, sold for the price I bought it 4 months ago. Won't touch that again.

@ Notchy 44 - Impressive
They can take all their sweet time to RMA back my card, as long as I also get one like that

zig11727
@ Notchy 44 wow
 
I guess it was worth it.
 
Are you on air or water cooling ?

 
Im using the Hybrid Cooler kit from EVGA, Pretty impressed with the results just from that add on as well. Temps dropped overall by 20c in games. I run around 48-52c now 2135 core clock and 950+ mem

This is hardly a fair comparison. You went from a 3900x to a 5950x, your gpu is running over 10c cooler on the second benchmark allowing for higher boost clocks, and I sincerely hope you’re not running your 4x8gb sticks at 3200mhz with the 5950 as you were with the 3900.

MastahFR

esschallert
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EDIT: Contacted the German EVGA support on Facebook as well as on ticket with the RMA. So for Germany (and for the general EU) there isn't a replacement program yet for the power balance issue. However I explained the problem in detail and I was assured that they test the new card before it is shipped out so the card which I should receive should not have the power balance issue and should do the normal 450 Watt (without XOC). My current card, which died. Did only a maximum of around 390 Watt but in general more between 370-380 Watt.
 
The weird thing with my card was also that despite setting the OC to 100 or 200 MHz on the core. It would peak at that and also report this as maximum clock in PR but the average clock throughout the benchmark was around 1850-1890 MHz (Watercooled with temps around 35-39 °C)

They totally lied. I RMA my card because she was doing 80W on PCIe and only 400W max (with 500W bios). The replacement card was doing 80W PCIe and 420-425W max on 500W bios. That was 3 days ago. I got ride of the evga card right after that, sold for the price I bought it 4 months ago. Won't touch that again.

You're from Europe/German?