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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 06:52:51 (permalink)
Is that a 527W peak power draw in the screen shot using XOC bios?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 11:38:17 (permalink)
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Is that a 527W peak power draw in the screen shot using XOC bios?

who are you asking? there are may posts with screenshots.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 12:06:48 (permalink)
I have update my port royal score with the ftw3 ultra 15 458 !
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/888440
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 14:04:23 (permalink)
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Feklar
Is that a 527W peak power draw in the screen shot using XOC bios?

who are you asking? there are may posts with screenshots.


I posted right after you. What screenshot did you think I would be referring to.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 14:11:18 (permalink)
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Is that a 527W peak power draw in the screen shot using XOC bios?

who are you asking? there are may posts with screenshots.


I posted right after you. What screenshot did you think I would be referring to.


Me i see 498w and there are no 527w around lol.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 14:28:03 (permalink)
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Is that a 527W peak power draw in the screen shot using XOC bios?

who are you asking? there are may posts with screenshots.


I posted right after you. What screenshot did you think I would be referring to.


Me i see 498w and there are no 527w around lol.


@ Feklar .... This.... ^^^

Rather than assume you were asking me (or anyone else here) about the quality of your eyesight, I thought it polite to ask who you were directing the question to.

I apologise for not realising that you were indeed asking me, my telepathy is a little off colour recently.

To answer your question:
Feklar
Is that a 527W peak power draw in the screen shot using XOC bios?

No, I don't think it is a 527W peak power draw, I think it is as @changboy points out, 498W max. I am however using the XOC Bios from the first page.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 14:31:00 (permalink)
Who talk to who hehehehe 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 14:37:55 (permalink)
I added the pce slot power and three 8 pin plugs and got 507w rather than 527w. Is this not what I'm seeing on the screenshot?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 16:29:25 (permalink)
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I added the pce slot power and three 8 pin plugs and got 507w rather than 527w. Is this not what I'm seeing on the screenshot?

No, that's not how that works. As I said in the post..

The screenshot of GPU-Z maximums is from the bench mark shown

the maximum (peak) power (reported as "Board Power Draw" within GPU-Z) pulled by the board itself during the benchmark run was 498.3W
this figure is not the sum of all the maximums of the PCIe slot and the three 8 pin plugs, because the maximum (peak) for each of the 4 points of reference mentioned could have occured at anytime during the benchmark.

I'll reiterate the questions I have asked as they seem to be quite a way up this post now....
  • Not sure if there is anything else I can do to get a stable OC higher than this?
  • One more question, I pumped up the voltage to +100mV... should I now try to reduce this now I have found stable frequencies, or in your experiences, would this topple the stability, it seems to be a maximum rather than full time, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong voltage in GPU-Z?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 17:11:50 (permalink)
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Looking for advice and the benefit of your experience in a field I'm not used to walking across.
 

This is the highest I have been able to OC my FTW 3090 Ultra: +125/+750 +100mV 119% TDP on the XOC Bios. The screenshot of GPU-Z maximums is from the bench mark shown. I ran all of the Timespy/Port Royale stress tests in 3D Mark and got over 99% on all of them so have settled on this OC for gaming as it looks stable. I managed +175/+1250 on Timespy once but it didn't finish Port Royale.

Not sure if there is anything else I can do to get a stable OC higher than this?

One more question, I pumped up the voltage to +100mV... should I now try to reduce this now I have found stable frequencies, or in your experiences, would this topple the stability, it seems to be a maximum rather than full time, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong voltage in GPU-Z?




That's a very bad score for +125 / +750 at 490W TDP.
 
This is what I get at 400W TDP on a 3090 FE, at +90 core, +500 memory (Edit, I accidentally typed 150 earlier, oops, YIKES).
You have work to do.
 

 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/17 18:15:15 (permalink)
Who has the non-garbage tier then?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 00:12:07 (permalink)
 
 
Can't confirm. My FTW3 ouperforms my friends STRIX although his is using the 500w BIOS an my FTW3 is capped at 420w.
So the garbage chips are all over the place^^
 
post edited by Delirious - 2021/02/18 05:51:19

RTX 3090 K|NGP|N OPTIMUS BLOCK, 10900K on Z490 MAXIMUS HERO, 32GB DDR4 3200@3800, Custom loop: 2x 560 + 480 rads, dual pump
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 01:27:20 (permalink)
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Looking for advice and the benefit of your experience in a field I'm not used to walking across.
 

This is the highest I have been able to OC my FTW 3090 Ultra: +125/+750 +100mV 119% TDP on the XOC Bios. The screenshot of GPU-Z maximums is from the bench mark shown. I ran all of the Timespy/Port Royale stress tests in 3D Mark and got over 99% on all of them so have settled on this OC for gaming as it looks stable. I managed +175/+1250 on Timespy once but it didn't finish Port Royale.

Not sure if there is anything else I can do to get a stable OC higher than this?

One more question, I pumped up the voltage to +100mV... should I now try to reduce this now I have found stable frequencies, or in your experiences, would this topple the stability, it seems to be a maximum rather than full time, but maybe I'm looking at the wrong voltage in GPU-Z?




That's a very bad score for +125 / +750 at 490W TDP.
 
This is what I get at 400W TDP on a 3090 FE, at +90 core, +500 memory (Edit, I accidentally typed 150 earlier, oops, YIKES).
You have work to do.
 

 


lol, so if my graphics scrore of 20962 is very bad, what is your graphics score of 21024? (just 62 points ahead of mine, is it just bad or poor?)

I have not started to OC my CPU just yet, that is stock CPU settings with 3800Mhz memory, and this wil have a bearing on the graphics score (like it or not)... so can I ask what you are running your CPU at so I can see what 'work I have to do'?

I made zero changes and this is what the score says today: (therefore I can only conclude that the Benchmark is indicative rather than a bible to go by)

 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 04:14:15 (permalink)
I also can confirm that my strix 3090 is only a little bit better than the 3090 Ultra they act quiet similar in gaming. Only in benchmarking pcie thing ist max 53 Watts on strix with 480 Watts PR 14.550 against pcie max 82 Watts and 450 Watt on Evga highest PR was 14.153.
Also the Strix runs a bit cooler and has s little more coilwhine then the Evga
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 04:15:40 (permalink)
Your card use 490w power for this, my ftw3 ultra use for this 430w and same graphics score

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 05:35:26 (permalink)
Do you mean Mr. Pix...?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 06:01:46 (permalink)
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Your card use 490w power for this, my ftw3 ultra use for this 430w and same graphics score

I wasn't bragging, as I said in my post, new to this OC'ing the graphics card thing and new to EVGA FTW 3090. I'm looking for advice, not whether your card is better than mine. I didn't make the damn things!

OK, so if you only use 430W for the same graphics score, be helpful will you and tell me how I can acheive the same as you did...

I can't believe the people here, constructive assistance or comments are rarely shared, just lots of look at me, aren't I good and your bad, your card is sh1t compared to mine.....

If you are going to reply to a post, my suggestion is that you add something constructive to your comments.
 
Oh and my dad is bigger than your dad BTW! FFS!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 06:13:24 (permalink)
To get better overall score in time spy. Overclock your card a little bit. Eg. 165 core and 400 mem and raise the powerslider. Then close all programs incl msi afterburner...techpowerup p1x and so on and then you will have a higher score. Also turn the fans on the card a little bit higher during benchmarking and thats it for the first steps
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 06:40:39 (permalink)
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To get better overall score in time spy. Overclock your card a little bit. Eg. 165 core and 400 mem and raise the powerslider. Then close all programs incl msi afterburner...techpowerup p1x and so on and then you will have a higher score. Also turn the fans on the card a little bit higher during benchmarking and thats it for the first steps

Thanks, I don't have fans on the card.. I can OC to 175/1250 with +0mV and keep within the max of <450W on stock BIOS and get a much higher score in TimeSpy BUT unless it is stable in games and through a 20 pass stress test I'm not interested.... the score I showed was a stable OC score, not just for benchmarking.

here is the result at 175/1250 with 0mV adjustment and stock BIOS at <450W TDP and a mild OC on the CPU.



BUT, that set up would crash in Elite Dangerous on VR Ultra settings and it would rarely pass the Timespy extreme stress test or the PR stress test.

I think I am in the wrong place, I am only interested in OC for stable performance, to get max FPS in VR games on the Reverb G2, not for bragging rights or one time benchmark passes. I used the Timespy Bench to generate and demonstrate the max power draw and max values only once I had it stable on all stress tests I threw at it in my OP.

I think we are at different ends. I installed the XOC Bios to see if I could get more stable results with more power available and so far, the answer is that it is no better than the original BIOS, if not worse for stability AND benchmarking!
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 06:48:38 (permalink)
It appears that my GPU epeen is bigger with a 22484 score. XC3 VBIOS.

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/15580398
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 11:57:18 (permalink)
Look at 8pin #3 low power draw compared to the other 2. This card has the power balance issue
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 11:58:36 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 18:39:08 (permalink)
RMA received today. Last card I was able to achieve 14.5 on the stock 450 watt BIOS. This is with the 500 watt on the new RMA card. Still have some tweaking to do. Looking forward to the Bykski block I ordered from Ali express while waiting for the RMA.
 
PCI-E draw does not worry me at 80.3 watt but once under water I might try the kingpin BIOS.
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 19:47:24 (permalink)
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RMA received today. Last card I was able to achieve 14.5 on the stock 450 watt BIOS. This is with the 500 watt on the new RMA card. Still have some tweaking to do. Looking forward to the Bykski block I ordered from Ali express while waiting for the RMA.
 
PCI-E draw does not worry me at 80.3 watt but once under water I might try the kingpin BIOS.
 
 
 

Only 88w on 3# pin its very strange, looks like you received another bomb.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/18 19:51:11 (permalink)
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RMA received today. Last card I was able to achieve 14.5 on the stock 450 watt BIOS. This is with the 500 watt on the new RMA card. Still have some tweaking to do. Looking forward to the Bykski block I ordered from Ali express while waiting for the RMA.
 
PCI-E draw does not worry me at 80.3 watt but once under water I might try the kingpin BIOS.
 
 
 

Only 88w on 3# pin its very strange, looks like you received another bomb.




Are there any of these cards that actually balance the 3 PCI-E power inputs?
Maybe 3rd input is used for VRAM or fans & LED's. 
But yes it would be ideal to see nearly balanced input between the power connectors.
 
Got this tweaked up to about 14350 for PR looks like about all I can hope for unless I try kingpin. 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/19 11:46:59 (permalink)
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RMA received today. Last card I was able to achieve 14.5 on the stock 450 watt BIOS. This is with the 500 watt on the new RMA card. Still have some tweaking to do. Looking forward to the Bykski block I ordered from Ali express while waiting for the RMA.
 
PCI-E draw does not worry me at 80.3 watt but once under water I might try the kingpin BIOS.
 
 
 
 

Only 88w on 3# pin its very strange, looks like you received another bomb.




Are there any of these cards that actually balance the 3 PCI-E power inputs?
Maybe 3rd input is used for VRAM or fans & LED's. 
But yes it would be ideal to see nearly balanced input between the power connectors.
 
Got this tweaked up to about 14350 for PR looks like about all I can hope for unless I try kingpin. 
 

88w on 8 pin#3 is not normal at all, you should see around the same of the 8 pin #2 or it can happen your card performing so well then its limiting the 8 pin #3 coz you already reach your power bios target.
The only way to find out its try a higher power limit bios to see how that 8 pin #3 will do, i mean if your board power draw reach 580w how much all those 8 pins will do.
 
But to me your card seam perform really good.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/19 11:47:40 (permalink)
i apologize as its difficult to comb through so many posts
 
Is there a new 500w bios or is this the same one from October? 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/19 11:50:52 (permalink)
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i apologize as its difficult to comb through so many posts
 
Is there a new 500w bios or is this the same one from October? 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/19 11:55:07 (permalink)
See how my card do at 588w board power draw on the 8 pins :

post edited by changboy - 2021/02/19 11:57:10
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/19 13:04:30 (permalink)
I heard that some of the newer cards are capping plug #3 to prevent cards dying. I am not sure how much truth it is in that, but I can tell you my friend has same 3080 ftw3 ultra as me, his has normal plug 3 150w draw and has had few black screen crashes. Mine has limited plug #3 and has no crashes at all.. 
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