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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 18:22:54 (permalink)
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 Hey i forgot told you this : A guy on rtx-3090 forum bought the Asus rtx-3090 strix oc and cant get a score of 14 000 in port royal even after overclock it and he sell it on ebay. This is what it is.
 
 Not mean you will get a golden chip every time you buy an asus or any brand card.
 




Not being able to reach 500w has nothing to do with the silicon. 
I personally think the silicon on this card is very good, i wish i could put a waterblock on it and really test it; but the fact it can't push over 420w means there is no point. 
If i didn't want to waterblock my card then i wouldn't care but this means my plans for this build can't be completed due to EVGA's faulty card. 
 
As i said i am done playing around with my PC now as covid lockdowns are pretty much over and am very dissapointed with the card, i wanted to build a top watercooled pc but due to this card and its problems i could never finish it. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 18:35:10 (permalink)
Aida64 GPU stress test will apply your boost clock and actually hold it, unlike Valley.
 
Here is a screenshot of GPU-Z running while Aida is stress testing.
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 18:38:05 (permalink)
 I understand you man, ear me....ur card works with a bios, try the 1000w bios on it and you will see, just dont push the slider over 60% = 600w then you will see if you reach ur 500w.
 
 No matter what bios you are using, if you reach what you want you will be happy. Its doing 1 week iam on this bios and i have no problem, and all 3x 8 pind show between 140w to 160w and pcie never go higher then 88w, so its fine.
 Give it a try, you can also put +55=550w or even lower if you scare.
 
 Me i saw a verry high power when watching a 4k movie but i found why, it was related to the driver and for LAV VIDEO setting i need to choose the setting of decoding set to NONE, so its my cpu do this job and if i set to dxva or els i saw power draw of 688w lol, now its fine and all game dont draw really more then 530w.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 18:39:44 (permalink)
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Aida64 GPU stress test will apply your boost clock and actually hold it, unlike Valley.
 
Here is a screenshot of GPU-Z running while Aida is stress testing.
 
 


See this 2160mhz ! Just 408W ! not everything will draw 500w.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 18:45:42 (permalink)
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 I understand you man, ear me....ur card works with a bios, try the 1000w bios on it and you will see, just dont push the slider over 60% = 600w then you will see if you reach ur 500w.



Stop telling people to run a bios that will void their warranty and could potentially fry their card.
 
changboy
See this 2160mhz ! Just 408W ! not everything will draw 500w.

I have managed 2190mhz @ 430w, thats not the point. I don't think you actually know what you are talking about so im not going to entertain this any longer. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 18:51:23 (permalink)
The only thing left : sell ur card the price you paid for...this is it.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 19:00:23 (permalink)
changboy
The only thing left : sell ur card the price you paid for...this is it.




I just use it to play Overwatch at 1600x900 now so it does the job :)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 19:08:21 (permalink)
Ya sell this and buy a 3060 ti you will be happy :)
Or play less and go fishing real fish hehehe.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 19:27:52 (permalink)
changboy
Ya sell this and buy a 3060 ti you will be happy :)
Or play less and go fishing real fish hehehe.


Keep running that 1000w bios and i might see you down there
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 19:54:38 (permalink)
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changboy
Ya sell this and buy a 3060 ti you will be happy :)
Or play less and go fishing real fish hehehe.


Keep running that 1000w bios and i might see you down there


Stop trolling in this thread
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 20:06:12 (permalink)
Lol.
I use mine for YouTube


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 20:23:28 (permalink)
I came to terms with the fact my card isn’t perfect awhile back. I’m fairly happy with the XC3 BIOS and an EK water block. The EK block really evens everything out, it’s so much smoother. Clock speeds don’t move at all in some games, move a little in others. Much much more stable clock speeds in Cyberpunk and other ray tracing games that used to seriously stress the thermals.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/07 21:00:49 (permalink)
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I came to terms with the fact my card isn’t perfect awhile back. I’m fairly happy with the XC3 BIOS and an EK water block. The EK block really evens everything out, it’s so much smoother. Clock speeds don’t move at all in some games, move a little in others. Much much more stable clock speeds in Cyberpunk and other ray tracing games that used to seriously stress the thermals.

Probably worth the water block in the sense that it keeps the gpu cool enough to boost higher for longer even with lower power draws. I pulled the power from the wall on the XC3 and the XOC and it looks like the XC3 was running at about 480w so for me that's much better than the 420-440w i got from the XOC. Still sucks they don't want to acknowledge the issues... 
 
changboy
Stop trolling in this thread

What is trolling and please give me an example of how i am doing it. 
post edited by Zgapzy - 2021/02/07 21:03:04
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/08 03:15:20 (permalink)
Did some testing with my watt monitor as well. My card pulled roughly 480-500 with the xc3. 420-435 with stock and xoc bios. Pcie slot pulls 83w max stock.
Not seeing correct read outs using the xc3 bios bothers me so I just run my card stock.


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/08 05:09:01 (permalink)
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Did some testing with my watt monitor as well. My card pulled roughly 480-500 with the xc3. 420-435 with stock and xoc bios. Pcie slot pulls 83w max stock.
Not seeing correct read outs using the xc3 bios bothers me so I just run my card stock.



Yeah thats pretty much what im geting.
I just leave my card on a custom fan curve now, +60 core + 250 mem and the XC3 bios. Gets me flat 14200's on PR on 104% Power. 
No more monitoring software for me just enjoying the smooth gaming. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/08 12:23:25 (permalink)
Here is my results on PortRoyal default OC Bios. PowerDraw by PCI-E Slot 78.2w MAX and 74.2 AVG. Do you think xoc bios is worth trying?
 
https://gyazo.com/b4b5e9414faefe519151691281adf76a
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/08 14:02:39 (permalink)
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Here is my results on PortRoyal default OC Bios. PowerDraw by PCI-E Slot 78.2w MAX and 74.2 AVG. Do you think xoc bios is worth trying?

https://gyazo.com/b4b5e9414faefe519151691281adf76a


Yes. The 500w XOC bios doesn't mess with your warranty so why not try it?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/08 22:23:22 (permalink)
breaking 14k stock is a decent card. 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/09 00:13:35 (permalink)
Just for information: I received a new RTX 3090 Ultra Hybrid with serial number 2119 as part of an RMA.
 
With the new card, the 500W is achieved with the help of the OC-Bios published here.
 
Unfortunately, the new graphics card has other shortcomings (fans turn up and down for no reason, numerous sensors show up to 6500 degrees and the card is significantly warmer than the previous one).
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/09 00:14:21 (permalink)
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Here is my results on PortRoyal default OC Bios. PowerDraw by PCI-E Slot 78.2w MAX and 74.2 AVG. Do you think xoc bios is worth trying?

https://gyazo.com/b4b5e9414faefe519151691281adf76a


That card is hitting much higher power than mine did with the 450w bios so you most likely have a good candidate for the 500w bios. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/09 01:57:40 (permalink)
CL600
Just for information: I received a new RTX 3090 Ultra Hybrid with serial number 2119 as part of an RMA.
 
With the new card, the 500W is achieved with the help of the OC-Bios published here.
 
Unfortunately, the new graphics card has other shortcomings (fans turn up and down for no reason, numerous sensors show up to 6500 degrees and the card is significantly warmer than the previous one).




 
 
And how is the PCIe Slot power draw? 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/09 11:27:49 (permalink)
When I compare those number with my new strix ... 43W on PCIe, something is really off with this FTW3.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/09 18:45:09 (permalink)
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When I compare those number with my new strix ... 43W on PCIe, something is really off with this FTW3.


What´s your score on PortRoyal? The best one you got.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 04:11:59 (permalink)
Not really sure what to do with my 3090 FTW3 Ultra.  Purchased this card for the 450W power limit, but in Port Royale/RDR2 and most games it will not break 425W with the stock bios.  The XOC bios makes 0 difference, still capped at 425W with dips to 415W.  Something is clearly wrong with the power delivery on my card (batch 2012 China model).  PCIe Slot Power hovers around 77W while total board power @ ~425, with spikes to 440W and 78W PCIe.  The fact that it can't make it's stock power target while under 70c makes me thing an RMA is in order, but I want to try some other stuff as the card is a decent overclocker and scores fairly well considering it's capped at 425W.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 07:38:48 (permalink)
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Not really sure what to do with my 3090 FTW3 Ultra.  Purchased this card for the 450W power limit, but in Port Royale/RDR2 and most games it will not break 425W with the stock bios.  The XOC bios makes 0 difference, still capped at 425W with dips to 415W.  Something is clearly wrong with the power delivery on my card (batch 2012 China model).  PCIe Slot Power hovers around 77W while total board power @ ~425, with spikes to 440W and 78W PCIe.  The fact that it can't make it's stock power target while under 70c makes me thing an RMA is in order, but I want to try some other stuff as the card is a decent overclocker and scores fairly well considering it's capped at 425W.




I'm in the same boat. for my card I noticed in GPUZ that the PCIE #3 power connector is consistently 10-15 watts below the other two. I contacted EVGA about an RMA and they denied me, saying that as long as the card is hitting 350w then the card is fine in their eyes. Given the type of card this it's not acceptable in my opinion I'm not sure what else I can do.
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 08:08:49 (permalink)
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Not really sure what to do with my 3090 FTW3 Ultra.  Purchased this card for the 450W power limit, but in Port Royale/RDR2 and most games it will not break 425W with the stock bios.  The XOC bios makes 0 difference, still capped at 425W with dips to 415W.  Something is clearly wrong with the power delivery on my card (batch 2012 China model).  PCIe Slot Power hovers around 77W while total board power @ ~425, with spikes to 440W and 78W PCIe.  The fact that it can't make it's stock power target while under 70c makes me thing an RMA is in order, but I want to try some other stuff as the card is a decent overclocker and scores fairly well considering it's capped at 425W.




I'm in the same boat. for my card I noticed in GPUZ that the PCIE #3 power connector is consistently 10-15 watts below the other two. I contacted EVGA about an RMA and they denied me, saying that as long as the card is hitting 350w then the card is fine in their eyes. Given the type of card this it's not acceptable in my opinion I'm not sure what else I can do.
 

Repeating this ad nauseum:
 
If your card is over 75W PCIE slot power draw, it is out of the PCIE spec and a valid reason for RMA if you are on the *stock VBIOS without a GPU/VRAM overclock*. Should the rep try and deny you an RMA, get it in writing that they are denying an RMA on a stock card that is out of PCIE spec. Your options then are to contact the BBB, or you could take EVGA to small claims court, or you can tell that rep that you'll be sending the response over to Gamer's Nexus to talk about (they're the ones that eviscerated AMD for the RX480 having out of spec PCIE slot power draw).
 
From everything that I've seen, other company 3090's tend to have PCIE slot power draw around 66W (or lower!), so there is something wrong with EVGA's 3090 power balancing that drives the PCIE slot power out of specification.
 
Edit: or you could try the XC3 VBIOS, post 3215. You may have a good overclocking chip that is just gimped by the power balancing, like mine.
post edited by arestavo - 2021/02/10 08:18:06
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 09:02:36 (permalink)
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Repeating this ad nauseum:
 
If your card is over 75W PCIE slot power draw, it is out of the PCIE spec and a valid reason for RMA if you are on the *stock VBIOS without a GPU/VRAM overclock*. Should the rep try and deny you an RMA, get it in writing that they are denying an RMA on a stock card that is out of PCIE spec. Your options then are to contact the BBB, or you could take EVGA to small claims court, or you can tell that rep that you'll be sending the response over to Gamer's Nexus to talk about (they're the ones that eviscerated AMD for the RX480 having out of spec PCIE slot power draw).
 
From everything that I've seen, other company 3090's tend to have PCIE slot power draw around 66W (or lower!), so there is something wrong with EVGA's 3090 power balancing that drives the PCIE slot power out of specification.
 
Edit: or you could try the XC3 VBIOS, . You may have a good overclocking chip that is just gimped by the power balancing, like mine.




Thanks, tried to give the XC3 bios a try but it refuses to flash over the current XOC bios for some reason (ERROR: Update aborded), using both nvflash and nvflash64.  Going to have to research it further.  I sort of agree, my PCIE slot power being 79W when the card is only hitting 425W seems pretty unacceptable from a QC standard, yet alone at 500W on power.
post edited by Exsurgolol - 2021/02/10 09:04:37
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 09:03:40 (permalink)
I have also same card (2012 china) 430W max both bios and pci-e power hit max 80W
 
and I think also water not help, this is test open window -13 in out said and PR 14021

before i have MSI Ventus 3090 and water-cooled 350w bios was 13890 PR  
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 13:19:11 (permalink)
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Not really sure what to do with my 3090 FTW3 Ultra.  Purchased this card for the 450W power limit, but in Port Royale/RDR2 and most games it will not break 425W with the stock bios.  The XOC bios makes 0 difference, still capped at 425W with dips to 415W.  Something is clearly wrong with the power delivery on my card (batch 2012 China model).  PCIe Slot Power hovers around 77W while total board power @ ~425, with spikes to 440W and 78W PCIe.  The fact that it can't make it's stock power target while under 70c makes me thing an RMA is in order, but I want to try some other stuff as the card is a decent overclocker and scores fairly well considering it's capped at 425W.




I'm in the same boat. for my card I noticed in GPUZ that the PCIE #3 power connector is consistently 10-15 watts below the other two. I contacted EVGA about an RMA and they denied me, saying that as long as the card is hitting 350w then the card is fine in their eyes. Given the type of card this it's not acceptable in my opinion I'm not sure what else I can do.
 

Repeating this ad nauseum:
 
If your card is over 75W PCIE slot power draw, it is out of the PCIE spec and a valid reason for RMA if you are on the *stock VBIOS without a GPU/VRAM overclock*. Should the rep try and deny you an RMA, get it in writing that they are denying an RMA on a stock card that is out of PCIE spec. Your options then are to contact the BBB, or you could take EVGA to small claims court, or you can tell that rep that you'll be sending the response over to Gamer's Nexus to talk about (they're the ones that eviscerated AMD for the RX480 having out of spec PCIE slot power draw).
 
From everything that I've seen, other company 3090's tend to have PCIE slot power draw around 66W (or lower!), so there is something wrong with EVGA's 3090 power balancing that drives the PCIE slot power out of specification.
 
Edit: or you could try the XC3 VBIOS, post 3215. You may have a good overclocking chip that is just gimped by the power balancing, like mine.




I just tried the XC3 BIOS with +100 core and +750 mem and it would reinforce the theory that my card has power balancing issues on the stock and XOC BIOS. Just got 14134 in Port Royal (previously highest was 14012 but I could never recreate that score, most of the time it was around 13850), 19488 in Time Spy (previous high was 19271), and the clock speed is much more consistent in games now. Though ya the temp shoots up to 65c+ now under full load. Bumped up the fan speed on the rad to compensate but doesn't help that much lol.
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 13:29:24 (permalink)
i cant change back to original bios after updating to hybrid bios says .No display adapters were found that are compatible with this update.
 
can anyone please help 
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