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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 14:12:48 (permalink)
Hi. I also have the 1000w bios in ftw3 ultra and nothing is fried because 1.081v does not happen, he wants me to test it that nothing happens, so afraid, monitor the temperature and voila, I in port royal in 14700 air with the bios 1000w
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 14:16:07 (permalink)
The 1000w bios is the one that works best for me, it goes from 500w without problem to 1.081v, the temperature little more than the XOC, I recommend it!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 14:34:47 (permalink)
[<font]Portroyal por aire 2100mhz a 1.037v 14688puntos, bios 1000w
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 15:00:24 (permalink)
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Not really sure what to do with my 3090 FTW3 Ultra.  Purchased this card for the 450W power limit, but in Port Royale/RDR2 and most games it will not break 425W with the stock bios.  The XOC bios makes 0 difference, still capped at 425W with dips to 415W.  Something is clearly wrong with the power delivery on my card (batch 2012 China model).  PCIe Slot Power hovers around 77W while total board power @ ~425, with spikes to 440W and 78W PCIe.  The fact that it can't make it's stock power target while under 70c makes me thing an RMA is in order, but I want to try some other stuff as the card is a decent overclocker and scores fairly well considering it's capped at 425W.




I'm in the same boat. for my card I noticed in GPUZ that the PCIE #3 power connector is consistently 10-15 watts below the other two. I contacted EVGA about an RMA and they denied me, saying that as long as the card is hitting 350w then the card is fine in their eyes. Given the type of card this it's not acceptable in my opinion I'm not sure what else I can do.
 

Mine does that too, the XC3 BIOS was the only answer, and PrecisionX 1.1.1 or Afterburner I guess, it wasn't working too well last time I tried to use it, but that was a couple months ago
Yeah, these cards have serious problems out of the box, it's (EDITED BY MODERATOR FOR LANGUAGE).  We could all start a class action lawsuit.  Lets see if this gets deleted...
 
 
Watch the language you use in the forums.  
post edited by Delirious - 2021/02/10 16:03:20
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 15:06:51 (permalink)
Just the swearing part must go.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 15:31:15 (permalink)
Briefly tried the XC3 bios and although it allows a true powerlimit closer to 460-470W (estimated from wall readout), the card now black screens a lot with basically the smallest overclock, it can even blackscreen and lock up the entire system when loading up benchmarks.  Worrying behaviour.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 17:22:02 (permalink)
Just got my #2012 card RMAed, the series number of new card is told to be #2114. I am waiting for shipment and let's see if it works.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 17:37:09 (permalink)
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Just got my #2012 card RMAed, the series number of new card is told to be #2114. I am waiting for shipment and let's see if it works.


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 18:21:21 (permalink)
Last week I installed my FTW3 vertically by using GPU riser cable, and did the port royal testing. I found the power went over 500w constantly (highest I saw is 520w), vs 490w max when installed horizontally with XOC bios. I returned riser cable due to higher temperature, and now I am back to 475~489w range when doing port royal testing. The riser cable I used is Asus GPU riser cable. I am not sure why but thought it is worth mentioning in this thread. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 21:08:20 (permalink)
Thats kinda weird tbh


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/10 23:49:19 (permalink)
I have some questions about the 1000w BIOS for those who have used it.

I understand it voids ur warranty, but is there any evidence left behind if nothing breaks while using it?

I have read a number of posts from people who had reservations about it. What are the risks with this BIOS? What have you done to mitigate that risk? Did you have power draw issues with the stock and XOC BIOS, and does this BIOS allow you to get 500w/500w+ power draw? What’s the max power you have drawn? Has anyone had it actually blow a fuse or kill a card?

I would like to get to the max voltage, 1.1v or whatever, and max stable clock speed without clock and voltage fluctuation due to power limitations. If I could run 2100 or so without it bouncing around I would be very happy. I don’t even actually know my max stable clock speed because of how unreliable the power delivery is.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/11 08:58:26 (permalink)
The risk is that all protections are removed, so if any PCIE slot/connector spikes past the fuse rating - blown fuse/dead card. Or if part of the GPU doesn't have heat conducted away properly (bad mount/poor TIM application), part of the GPU can get too hot and degrade/fail (edges of the GPU die uncovered). Or if a VRAM stack gets too hot and degrades/fails (like the passively cooled ones on the back of the card, or if any have poor thermal pad contact). There may be others, such as the power delivery system - but I'm not certain if that is thermally limited by the VBIOS.

The card will literally run until it dies with the kingpin VBIOS, even with the fans not spinning.
post edited by arestavo - 2021/02/11 09:04:43
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/11 13:59:45 (permalink)
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I have some questions about the 1000w BIOS for those who have used it.

I understand it voids ur warranty, but is there any evidence left behind if nothing breaks while using it?

I have read a number of posts from people who had reservations about it. What are the risks with this BIOS? What have you done to mitigate that risk? Did you have power draw issues with the stock and XOC BIOS, and does this BIOS allow you to get 500w/500w+ power draw? What’s the max power you have drawn? Has anyone had it actually blow a fuse or kill a card?

I would like to get to the max voltage, 1.1v or whatever, and max stable clock speed without clock and voltage fluctuation due to power limitations. If I could run 2100 or so without it bouncing around I would be very happy. I don’t even actually know my max stable clock speed because of how unreliable the power delivery is.

I would love to use the 1000w bios as well man, just like a lot of us would, but I am sticking with the 500w approved bios. It is just not worth it imo to risk damage, even if the risk of damage is minimal. Now if 2k means nothing to you and you are ok with voiding, then by all means, have a blast with it. Even if it dies you won't get nothing for it. I saw a strix 3090 that was dead on eBay sell for 1900.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/11 17:07:05 (permalink)
I'm staying with the original bios (hybrid 3090 FTW3 Ultra) when the 500 watt bios comes out of beta I will try it. My card preforms good enough without asking for trouble also 1000 Watt bios user's even if you don't care about $2000 it still very hard to purchase any RTX 3*** series cards.
 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/11 17:29:55 (permalink)
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I have some questions about the 1000w BIOS for those who have used it.

I understand it voids ur warranty, but is there any evidence left behind if nothing breaks while using it?



Even you won't admit it how about you got the dreaded red light and still having illegal bios installed?  If you dont mind about the warranty for a little bit more power well buy the strix.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/11 17:57:33 (permalink)
146 pages and EVGA still say there is nothing wrong with their cards, what an absolute joke of a company. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/11 18:20:02 (permalink)
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I'm staying with the original bios (hybrid 3090 FTW3 Ultra) when the 500 watt bios comes out of beta I will try it. My card preforms good enough without asking for trouble also 1000 Watt bios user's even if you don't care about $2000 it still very hard to purchase any RTX 3*** series cards.
 
 
 
 


What is the dreaded red light and why are you assuming he has it?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/11 18:55:07 (permalink)
I suppose my card runs fine as is, I just wish the damn clock speed would stay where I set it. It usually only fluctuates 40-60 MHz, but it’s annoying, it’s not even due to thermals and it’s not hitting power limit so (Deleted Yo Mama)  I appreciate the fact I have a 3090, but I’m definitely gonna think twice next time and see how their cards perform before I buy EVGA next time. This is actually the 2nd time I’ve had an issue with a “premium” card from EVGA, or third since I had two 980 Classi’s. I’ve also had issues with MSI and Asus too so I guess it’s a toss up no matter who you buy from. XFX doesn’t make Nvidia cards anymore, but I had issues with theirs too. And Sapphire, but that was ATI.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/11 23:53:53 (permalink)
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I suppose my card runs fine as is, I just wish the damn clock speed would stay where I set it. It usually only fluctuates 40-60 MHz, but it’s annoying, it’s not even due to thermals and it’s not hitting power limit so (Deleted Abbreviated Foul Language)  I appreciate the fact I have a 3090, but I’m definitely gonna think twice next time and see how their cards perform before I buy EVGA next time. This is actually the 2nd time I’ve had an issue with a “premium” card from EVGA, or third since I had two 980 Classi’s. I’ve also had issues with MSI and Asus too so I guess it’s a toss up no matter who you buy from. XFX doesn’t make Nvidia cards anymore, but I had issues with theirs too. And Sapphire, but that was ATI.


So far for me the Gigabyte cards seem to be the most reliable.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/12 00:34:01 (permalink)
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I have some questions about the 1000w BIOS for those who have used it.

I understand it voids ur warranty, but is there any evidence left behind if nothing breaks while using it?



Even you won't admit it how about you got the dreaded red light and still having illegal bios installed?  If you dont mind about the warranty for a little bit more power well buy the strix.


Nobody not check what bios is installed Your card, same is 500w bios,  don't worry! Stop talking about voiding your warranty once, it already makes laugh...1000w bios must configure everything manually and if you don't have the skills don't use it! Proper cooling is also required... And this beta bios will never come out of beta... Also, not change RMA Your cards because it doesn't work at 500w power, just don't have to work because EVGA use 1ohm shunts in card and that it all...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/12 03:18:49 (permalink)
BIG NEWS (maybe) EVGA is working on a BIOS fix!
Guys I reached out to the EVGA support in regards of the pcie power draw again and here's what they said (german, so ask google for translation^^):
 
"vielen Dank für Ihre Antwort. 

Zum aktuellen Zeitpunkt besteht keine Notwendigkeit für eine RMA. Sollte die Karte jedoch deutlich mehr als die von Ihnen genannten 90 Watt ziehen, würden wir zu einer Reklamation raten. 
Zudem arbeite wir bereits an einer BIOS-Version, die u.a. diese Problematik im Blick hat. 

Für weitere Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gern zur Verfügung. 

Freundliche Grüße
EVGA Support Team"
 
btw. I never said the card pulls 90w through the pcie slot, but anyways... EVGA is working on a BIOS fix!
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/12 07:11:52 (permalink)
I'd put more stock in a BAR supported VBIOS that an actual fixed power draw issue VBIOS at this point. It's going on 6 months now.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/12 10:33:32 (permalink)
Pretty sure I’ve seen posts about EVGA saying it’ll be fixed in a BIOS update since November or even October. Which maybe it can...but I’m in a “I’ll believe it when I see it” mindset.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/12 11:08:41 (permalink)
If this have to do with a bios update why other brand card didnt have those problem ? Why same bios working fine on other brand card but dont on this evga ftw3 ultra ???
 
I really think they need call back there card and send new one with all this fixed. They just have to be honnest with there customers and contact them to resolve the faulty card ????????????
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/12 16:04:22 (permalink)
Come on, EVGA. At least communicate to us in this thread if there will ever even be an update to this vBIOS. Not a single update since October. Ridiculous.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/12 16:57:43 (permalink)
this is the 1000w bios after play 1 hour at bf 1 all the time boost at 2100mhz power slider at 52%
 

post edited by changboy - 2021/02/12 18:24:42
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/13 01:14:50 (permalink)
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this is the 1000w bios after play 1 hour at bf 1 all the time boost at 2100mhz power slider at 52%
 



Max temp after 1hour at these Watts?
I know you are a hybrid guy now .
Im waiting my hybrid kit to come too

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/13 07:49:02 (permalink)
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this is the 1000w bios after play 1 hour at bf 1 all the time boost at 2100mhz power slider at 52%



Max temp after 1hour at these Watts?
I know you are a hybrid guy now .
Im waiting my hybrid kit to come too



My max temp was 51c, and iam on EK waterblock. On the normal bios my temp is 44c, on xoc bios my max temp was 48c. I never saw my card over 52c. My temp room is never under 23.5c.
 
This is also peak value, my temp when i game on 1000w bios is at 48c and for some reason it peak sometimes at 50c, maybe its my pump slowing down a bit and temp peak a bit higher.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/13 07:57:43 (permalink)
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this is the 1000w bios after play 1 hour at bf 1 all the time boost at 2100mhz power slider at 52%
 



89W on pcie? No thank you!

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/13 08:21:57 (permalink)
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this is the 1000w bios after play 1 hour at bf 1 all the time boost at 2100mhz power slider at 52%
 



89W on pcie? No thank you!



All value are peak value and average on pcie power draw is a lot lower, on xoc bios that value was 79w. So if 79w is fine then no problem with a peak at 89w. It can run like this 20 years of time.
Also my motherboard asus rampage omega.have a 4 pin molex for boost pcie slot and i have plug it.
 
If my 1100$ mobo cant handle 89w on pcie kill me now ! 
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