CMDRZOD
 
How many Mh/s are you getting? You should try and undervolt the core for better power efficiency. If my PC was in another room I would mine with my 3090. At this power level this card will last forever but seems like you could lower watts even further with minimal loss of hash rate.
 

 
I just thought id check the program out for a bit of fun. I don't really see a problem with the temps and whatever voltage im getting is the xoc bios. I might give the xc3 bios a crack as that does a lot better on PR with this card. 
 
I don't think mining is something im really interested in but if the upcoming news from Jacob doesn't help these cards then i might just mine it till it pays for a replacement. 
 
edit : 
Power
353W

Efficiency
0.315 MH/J
 
Going to let it complete the pay cycle and weigh up if its worth actually doing it or not. The building I'm in has a 6 star energy rating and is rebated so it might be a possibility now that uni is back. 

god503

KickAssCop
Seems like your 3090 is expected to (Deleted for FOUL LANGUAGE) the bed given the high power draw. How do you feel about that? Also fans running at 3000 RPM must be loud af. 

What high power draw? Are we looking at the same graph????

PCI e slot power is about 79. Should be around the 75 mark or preferably even lower. 
Yes Zgapzy, I was referring to you. Can you explain what you mean by this card does not run well? Did you try some games? What was your experience. I have a FTW3 3090 arriving today and I am quite apprehensive to even try it. 
Also Xrayman, didn't know that the specific word I used wasn't allowed. Point taken.

XrayMan
 
 
Thanks. Also the filter didn't like it.     ;)

Sorry bigdog us Aussies sometimes forget the rest of the world doesn't share our lingo.
 

KickAssCop
 
PCI e slot power is about 79. Should be around the 75 mark or preferably even lower. 
Yes Zgapzy, I was referring to you. Can you explain what you mean by this card does not run well? Did you try some games? What was your experience. I have a FTW3 3090 arriving today and I am quite apprehensive to even try it. 
Also Xrayman, didn't know that the specific word I used wasn't allowed. Point taken.

Welcome to the 3090 FTW3 Ultra club sir, hopefully your card performs better on the XOC bios. I'm not going to go fully into it because there is pages upon pages of info. At the end of the day theres a few cards not doing what they should, my card on the XOC bios struggled to hit a 14000 on PR. I ran the XC3 and pulled 14600 no issues. The problem with the xc3 bios is you can't really monitor anything. I swapped back to the XOC bios purely so i could test out this mining fad. The card stays a lot cooler on the XOC bios than the XC3 so i don't want to risk any further issues by running it. I found by testing power from the wall that the xc3 runs at about 50-60w more than the XOC did on PR. Close enough to 500w. 
 
I wish my PCIe pulled less.... i really do. 
 
edit: I built this rig mainly for Cyberpunk and managed to get 80-100 fps at 4k with RT on Ultra so i believe the silicon is great, just EVGA has blundered something with certain cards in how they respond to the bios. Hopefully Jacob comes to the rescue in the coming weeks so i can waterblock this beast. So yes, please dont rub salt on my bleeding PCIe wounds. 

KickAssCop
Many thanks for your explanation. My card is out for delivery and I have option to play with it or sell it outright. Already have a buyer willing to pay me $900 extra over my purchase price. 

At the end of the day if you want the card to deliver when gaming just run the xc3 bios. It's pretty late in the game now your card might be fine on the XOC bios, i'd give it a crack if i was you nothing to lose and im sure you could resell it pretty quickly eitherway. 

My heatsink and thermal pads and 92mm fan got here so I'm gonna try to slap a heatsink on the back of my card after work and see if that helps with the memory junction temp. It's the perfect size to cover just the right areas, I have a lotta hope for this lol

Also, word of advice for anyone with a hybrid kit: throw away your coolermaster halo fans, my temps are 15c higher under load than with the stock evga fans. I only replaced them because one stopped spinning unless I gave it a little smack

Zgapzy

indicajones

exlink
Jacob indicated in a tweet today that more information regarding the 500W BIOS and power balancing issues will be available in the next few weeks.

https://twitter.com/evga_...62846739145760773?s=21

After months of seeing the same stuff on repeat in this thread this is worth a 4th quote. 

Only reason i pop in anymore. 
 
edit: Have to say for mining this power balance issue is a win. Temps are not an issue at all and the power draw is low on the 500w bios, for someone who built this rig for pure (Deleted For FOUL LANGUAGE) and giggles its actually starting to pay off.

Card do this gpuz screen when you minning, but not with game.

changboy
 
Card do this gpuz screen when you minning, but not with game.

wut?
 

KickAssCop
Seems I failed the silicon lottery. Card won't even run 2000 MHz proper. It is the black version that is made in Taiwan. Also seen volts hit the 1.081 mark and PCIe power jump to 83 watts. Seems like it will be dead in a few weeks unless there is a fix. Not going to push it much at all.

 
EVGA strikes again.. sorry to hear. Hopefully the news from Jacob in a few weeks helps out. 

when can we expect a OC eta with resize bar support?

 
Interesting observations.
 
Did some tests over 350W and Pin3 is really contributing more when the overall Board Draw is > 400 W
The PCIe slot remains in range 75-80w.
Note it did hit very close to 500W on a few samples.

EVGA_JacobF
We have a new BETA BIOS that increases the maximum Power Target. This BIOS is only intended for the extreme overclocking user and does not have any other changes. Please note the following:
 

• This update will increase the power consumption while overclocking, and is recommended you have adequate cooling and power (850w+ Gold minimum) when using this.
• EVGA does not guarantee any performance increase or overclock while using this BIOS update.

 
Any other questions or concerns will be answered in this forum thread only. Please post below your results and feedback!
 
 
BIOS Instructions (Windows Installation):

• Download the correct .zip file below for your graphics card below.
• Extract the files to a location on disk.
• Make sure no programs are running in the background, and double click Update.exe
• Press "Y" to begin the update.
• DO NOT TURN OFF POWER OR RESET DURING THE UPDATE PROCESS!
• After update, restart PC.

 
EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3

• EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA – ) |
• EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 - |
• EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 HYBRID - |

NOTE: There are 2 BIOS's, one is for the BIOS when switched to the normal stock position, the other if switched to the OC position
 
If you wish to go back to the Default BIOS you can find them below:
EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA Default BIOS - |
EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 Default BIOS - |

Interesting, looking at the HYBRID download links.
BIOS 1 is pointing to the Normal Hybrid XOC file
(Normal) is pointing to the Normal Hybrid XOC file
BIOS 2 is pointing to the Overclock Hybrid XOC file
(OC) is pointing to the non HYBRID OC bios.
 
 

I finally had some time with my FTW ultra with an EK water block. Didn’t try to OC it until I installed the water block. Seems pretty stable with +200 on the core with +1000 on the memory. Haven’t touched the voltage. Using the FTW OC bios on the first page (94.02.26.48.F8). My question is whether I should try the hybrid bios since the card is under water now? Or just wait on the pending bios update the end of March. Suggestions? Thanks.

Zgapzy

ty_ger07

Zgapzy
EVGA strikes again.. sorry to hear. Hopefully the news from Jacob in a few weeks helps out. 

The news he has been working on sharing since October? Don't hold your breath.

I have given up with this card and its power draw issues for gaming now im back at uni so i dont really care anymore.
Funny enough its an amazing card for mining. +1500 on memory with a voltage of 0.780 with 80 degree average memory junction temps and core temps under 40. 
Given the history of release dates ill have enough cash to buy the ti varient by the time it comes out and this can continue to mine. 

I don't understand why everyone is so hurt by this? Does it really impact your performance in games? Also, I doubt that a TI variant will perform as well as this card, even with the power issues. Why not just enjoy the beast card?

Clayman31

Zgapzy

ty_ger07

Zgapzy
EVGA strikes again.. sorry to hear. Hopefully the news from Jacob in a few weeks helps out. 

The news he has been working on sharing since October? Don't hold your breath.

I have given up with this card and its power draw issues for gaming now im back at uni so i dont really care anymore.
Funny enough its an amazing card for mining. +1500 on memory with a voltage of 0.780 with 80 degree average memory junction temps and core temps under 40. 
Given the history of release dates ill have enough cash to buy the ti varient by the time it comes out and this can continue to mine. 

I don't understand why everyone is so hurt by this? Does it really impact your performance in games? Also, I doubt that a TI variant will perform as well as this card, even with the power issues. Why not just enjoy the beast card?

 
You almost have to laugh at some of this.  It's almost like saying "I'm mad at my car, it will do 200mph, but it gets 30 mpg while doing it!  It should be getting 5mpg!"
 
Ya, I realize there are those who have some honest issues going on with their cards, but a lot of this has dog piled on, making people question their 30xx card when it's working fine.
 
In my case, my 3090 FTW3 performs about 30-40% better than my old overclocked 2080Ti FTW3.  With RTX it's even higher.  The power balance on my card is fine, with all three plugs staying relatively close.  My card though just has a struggle getting to that 500w area.  In reality, I'm probably losing out around 3-5% performance because of it, but I'm not losing any sleep over it.

arestavo

Turbo-12R
You almost have to laugh at some of this.  It's almost like saying "I'm mad at my car, it will do 200mph, but it gets 30 mpg while doing it!  It should be getting 5mpg!"
 
Ya, I realize there are those who have some honest issues going on with their cards, but a lot of this has dog piled on, making people question their 30xx card when it's working fine.
 
In my case, my 3090 FTW3 performs about 30-40% better than my old overclocked 2080Ti FTW3.  With RTX it's even higher.  The power balance on my card is fine, with all three plugs staying relatively close.  My card though just has a struggle getting to that 500w area.  In reality, I'm probably losing out around 3-5% performance because of it, but I'm not losing any sleep over it.

A more apt car analogy for the out of spec PCIE power draw would be your car catching fire through normal use. You aren't certain that it'll happen, but you take your chances if you ignore that particular recall.

So then why are there so many arguments for not being able to hit 500w versus people claiming to catch on fire....

Aaaaand my card has started artifacting at stock settings again.  Great.  I hope Jacob's 'news' is we're all getting new, working cards.