changboy

Epsilon1190

changboy
this is the 1000w bios after play 1 hour at bf 1 all the time boost at 2100mhz power slider at 52%

Max temp after 1hour at these Watts?
I know you are a hybrid guy now .
Im waiting my hybrid kit to come too

My max temp was 51c, and iam on EK waterblock. On the normal bios my temp is 44c, on xoc bios my max temp was 48c. I never saw my card over 52c. My temp room is never under 23.5c.
 
This is also peak value, my temp when i game on 1000w bios is at 48c and for some reason it peak sometimes at 50c, maybe its my pump slowing down a bit and temp peak a bit higher.

Perfect temps.nice dude💪
Ιm curious to see what temps i will reach with aio kit

changboy



This is also peak value, my temp when i game on 1000w bios is at 48c and for some reason it peak sometimes at 50c, maybe its my pump slowing down a bit and temp peak a bit higher.

Perfect temps.nice dude💪
Ιm curious to see what temps i will reach with aio kit



It depend what power draw you will give to ur card, me if i use normal bios its around 44c max and with 1000w bios its 48c so 4c higher, it will do this with hybrid kit also. More you boost higher more temp will raise. I belive you will be able to boost at 2100mhz in game like me but ur temp will be a bit higher. 
Some more care about memory temp actually, those chip on the back on the card can come verry hot and + if you oc the memory. 


For daily im uv-oc 1.025v(2115-2130) and for memory im +650-700 max temp juction at 4k im at 72-76c the 76c i see it only in cyberpunk

changboy

Mathieas

changboy
this is the 1000w bios after play 1 hour at bf 1 all the time boost at 2100mhz power slider at 52%

89W on pcie? No thank you!

All value are peak value and average on pcie power draw is a lot lower, on xoc bios that value was 79w. So if 79w is fine then no problem with a peak at 89w. It can run like this 20 years of time.
Also my motherboard asus rampage omega.have a 4 pin molex for boost pcie slot and i have plug it.
 
If my 1100$ mobo cant handle 89w on pcie kill me now ! 

 
The 4 pin molex really does nothing here. That plug is to help the 24pin plug from pulling too many watts from the 12v wires in that plug(they were melting back with the GTX 280s or 480s i think it was). My concern is 89w across the traces of a single PCIe slot (that is ~20% over spec). Of course your 24pin plug can handle this.  PCIe spec is to pull ~6.25A across the slot, your 89w is peaking at over 7.4A. This is a large difference and certainly could cause issues over long or even short term use.  For your sake I hope it does not... It really does depend on how a particular board is built. Do manufacturers report this spec for high end boards now? Personally my X99-FTWK does not have it anywhere.
 
On another note, I do applaud the work you are doing. This is useful info for the community and certainly interesting. It is just not something I plan to do myself. I personally enjoy the other side of things, atm I am running 2055mhz with 380-400W board power usage. It really does say something about ampere's limits for OC as the power needs really start to sky rocket once you leave a chip's sweet spot. 

They say it's fine, but they actually do RMA for card over 80W on PCIe ... so guess, it's not "that" fine.
 
And it's a total different thing to do high draw power usage on the kingpin times to times for bench, than a daily driving GPU for gaming. I would never daily drive a GPU that is out of spec on pwr draw usage.
It's not because they say it's fine for the kingpin for bench that it is for daily usage 24/24

Nobody heard about issues on RX480 burning PCIe slot? There are many reports 4 years ago that AMD RX480 killing motherboard because of drawing more than 80W through PCIe slot.

Zgapzy
 
So far for me the Gigabyte cards seem to be the most reliable.

Gigabyte's warranty and RMA service in the US are 100% useless based on my experience, so their products are worth a lot less to me because I consider them sold without a warranty.  In my experience with doing RMA's with 5 of their products, I have not received a functioning product back the first time with any of their RMAs.  One time, they actually physically damaged my motherboard that was sent in for a RMA. It took several RMAs to get a functioning motherboard from Gigabyte.  Also they physically damaged my friend's graphics card he sent in for RMA repair.  
 
EVGA's warranty service and support have been great.  Asus' warranty and RMA process are slow but have been great.  I've also used a 3rd party warranty through SquareTrade and they work great also.  They couldn't repair my products, so I received a check for the full purchase price minus any deductible they had.
 
If EVGA made AMD motherboards, I'd probably buy them just for the warranty support.

 Like i said previously, if you have a 100$ mobo and a 60$ psu to run this card your problem is not the pcie power draw.
Usually the compoment must match other one in a system if you want avoid problem.

changboy

yangning8109
Nobody heard about issues on RX480 burning PCIe slot? There are many reports 4 years ago that AMD RX480 killing motherboard because of drawing more than 80W through PCIe slot.

The PCIe slot can take more than 75w. Its the 24pin connector that will burn out first. If the cables stay relatively cool and they're thick enough it can supply upwards of 150-200w fine. If you happen to have a supplemental PCIe power connector on the mobo itself it could definitely take more power.

It needs to be clarified that 75W for PCIe slot covers 66W (12V 5.5A) and 9.9W (3.3V 3A). The PCIe slot voltage and power readout from GPUZ only contains 12V part, so 75W in GPUZ is already out of spec. And that's why other graphics cards from such as ASUS Strix have only MAX 66W readout with 480W/500W vbios.

I went through the report from various websites, found the reported max average power draw in game was just 90W and couldn't find where your 100W data came from.... But that's not important anyway...
 
My RMAed 3090 FTW3U has 77W average power draw @ 420W default BIOS and 81~83W @ 500W xoc BIOS. Maybe you are lucky to get a good card without PCIe overcurrent issue.

Tobi123
80-85 Watt was not the problem of the rx480s some of them sucked over 100 Watt out of the slot and that was causing the problem...and you have to look at averaging at your pcie Slot and thats always at 74-75 Watts, sometimes with hard overclocking it averages at 76-77 Watt on the 3090 FTW3. Now i have also a Strix and with Powerlimit on 480 max pcie was at 53 Watt. The two cards are very similar in behaving. Only in benches the strix goes a bit higher. 14.150 Evga and 14.350 Strix with 450Watt on both cards. But the evga is a lot quieter because of the coil whining strix. Now i look which one to keep.
Edit 2 port royal with Strix 480 Watt it was 14.540. Everything on air

did you OC the card for port royal testing? I just tested my FTW3 and got 14,427, +140 on core clock and 1100 on memory.
 

 

It was both the same on the cards. Only raising Powerlimit to 450 Watts and core + 165 and mem +400. Will test a bit more over the next few days. So in the case of running between 385 - 450 Watt they are very similar also in gaming. I like both cards.

Ftw3U stock bios max score-14132 in Port Royal
Xc3 bios max score- 14633 in Port Royal.

Oddly enough my offset stock was +150 core. Now i can only do +80. Cant argue with the better score though.

Razgriz2006
Ftw3U stock bios max score-14132 in Port Royal
Xc3 bios max score- 14633 in Port Royal.

Oddly enough my offset stock was +150 core. Now i can only do +80. Cant argue with the better score though.

Same boat i was getting 170+ on the core with XOC with a 14400 on PR, +100 on XC3 gets me 14500+ with a higher temp. I just run the XC3 bios with +60core +250 mem as my daily now and it seems to run much better. 

Razgriz2006
Ftw3U stock bios max score-14132 in Port Royal
Xc3 bios max score- 14633 in Port Royal.

Oddly enough my offset stock was +150 core. Now i can only do +80. Cant argue with the better score though.

Yes I am also testing with XC3.  I determined from PSU directly something around +50W DC over the XOC.  GPU Z now showing sloot only take 66W max.  Giant perf limit green bar now only some small green bar usually the vRel is limiter.  I also need lowering offset but did not find improvement in max score yet.

500wbiso

changboy
 What i not like with xc3 bios its a 2x8pin and power draw on 8 pin are not balance over the 3x 8 pin for this reason i use the 1000w bios coz its a 3 x 8pin bios and 3 x 8pin are near the same power draw.
XC3 force the card much more on 1 on the 8 pin and it can do bad with time. Its sterss the board on a bad way.
To my eyes the XC3 bios is more dangerous then the 1000w bios if you use it carefully and put the power slider at 52% then you wont exeed 525w and power draw on the card is nice.
 
After 3 month with my ftw3 this its my conclusion with the tool we have actually.
 
If i have a real 500w bios and i can game at 2100mhz it can be another story.
 
 

changboy how did you find 8 pin balancing problem?

Coz in gpuz power draw on pcie was 68w - 8 pin#1=76w -8pin#2=176w so the total is 320w then to get 500w mean you have at least 8pin#3=180w if you hit 520w board power draw you can near draw 200w on 8 pin#3.
 
The 1000w bios average of 8 pins are 150w not 180w. But not just that, first time i was using a 2x8pins bios its look fine and boost at 2100mhz but after 3 days i feel something force and my card not boost at 2100mhz but 2085mhz. So i didnt continue that way.
And i cant see the exact power draw on my card and didnt like this.
If you push harder on just some part of the pcb its doing bad. Coz those part are stress more then normal and will fail earlier.
Push all compoment at the top its not better to push 1 side to the top always coz this part will fail earlier.
 
Its mean with the 1000w bios 3X 140w + 85wpcie = 525w
XC3 Bios = 76w+176+182w+68wpcie = 502w
Wich one seam more normal and adequate to you ?