god503
You know I really wish the people who choose not to run the 1k bios would stop scaring those
Who would like to try. As someone who games consistently and every day on the 1k bios I have yet to fry my card. Want to know why? Because at the max voltage of 1.1 YOU WILL NEVER GET CLOSE TO DRAWING 1000 WATTS!!!! max I ever hit is 650 and that was on time spy extreme, and that was a spike only.
UNLESS U SHUNT, it won't fry. Watercooling is a must. So unless those who have fried have shunted, they are just trying to justify there decision making process. Just like this entire thread about slot power draw is just ridiculous. How about we hear from someone who has popped the slot fuse on their cards. Is there anyone???? And also if you are using the xc3 bios then you are running the same risk as the 1k bios. Why? Because the xc3 doesn't regulate the 3rd pci power connector since it was designed for a 2 port card, so theoretical you could draw the whole 500 watts just from that port and melt your psu in the process. And if the 1k bios voids your warranty then so does the xc3. So those preaching about being "in spec" should just stick to stock!!!!

Sounds really encouraging there is no place for weak hearted on enthusiast scene lol. But were your card able to draw 500w with 500w bios?

god503
You know I really wish the people who choose not to run the 1k bios would stop scaring those
Who would like to try. As someone who games consistently and every day on the 1k bios I have yet to fry my card. Want to know why? Because at the max voltage of 1.1 YOU WILL NEVER GET CLOSE TO DRAWING 1000 WATTS!!!! max I ever hit is 650 and that was on time spy extreme, and that was a spike only.
UNLESS U SHUNT, it won't fry. Watercooling is a must. So unless those who have fried have shunted, they are just trying to justify there decision making process. Just like this entire thread about slot power draw is just ridiculous. How about we hear from someone who has popped the slot fuse on their cards. Is there anyone???? And also if you are using the xc3 bios then you are running the same risk as the 1k bios. Why? Because the xc3 doesn't regulate the 3rd pci power connector since it was designed for a 2 port card, so theoretical you could draw the whole 500 watts just from that port and melt your psu in the process. And if the 1k bios voids your warranty then so does the xc3. So those preaching about being "in spec" should just stick to stock!!!!

It's most likely not the card, that's going to fail.


It's everything in line of the power will suffer from higher draw.

I don't know how old you are, but back in my "youth" we put higher wattage light bulbs in our headlights on the cars.
The first thing that died, wasn't the headlight. It was the conector and the wires closest to the connector.


In case of a mainboard, that translates (long term) to a molten pcie slot and fried traces on the board. My mainboard doesn't have additional pcie power. So it's most likely not designed for higher draw.



I'm sure, there are MB's out there that are designed for very high loads on the slot. But mine is defenetly not.

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Lord Winchester
In case of a mainboard, that translates (long term) to a molten pcie slot and fried traces on the board. My mainboard doesn't have additional pcie power. So it's most likely not designed for higher draw.

Its not an issue if the card is properly designed not to draw more than 75 watts from the PCIEx16 slot.  Both the MSI Gaming X Trio 3090 and Asus Strix 3090 dosn't hit 75W of power draw through the PCIEx16 slot even with the EVGA Kingpin 1000W BIOS installed.  I don't currently have an EVGA 3090 FTW3 to test the PCIEx16 slot power draw on.

Sorry for that

My last post didn't make it clear, that I was talking about our cards that sadly got the issue of overstressing the PCI slot. Mine did it "only" to about 80 wattson the stock Bios, but that's still 6.7% over spec AND a reason for EVGA to RMA my Card.

So it seems, they are really concerned about this.

Solar Trans
Have a 3090 FTW3 Ultra coming from Amazon tomorrow, ordered around a week ago. Does the PCIE slot power issue affect newer production cards too?

The cards I received in December had that issue.  The way to find out is to download GPU-Z and run it while running a game or benchmark.

Solar Trans

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Solar Trans
Have a 3090 FTW3 Ultra coming from Amazon tomorrow, ordered around a week ago. Does the PCIE slot power issue affect newer production cards too?

The cards I received in December had that issue.  The way to find out is to download GPU-Z and run it while running a game or benchmark.

Ouch. Did yours have the red or black accents? I wonder if it affects all new cards or only some?

Mine is a Black Lip 2014xxxxx serial Number bought in December and I'm affected.

Where did you find one?!?

Oh okay, lucky tho. Did you pay MSRP or did you have to pay more due to scalping?

If that answers your question🤣


That's that's 2700$

Tobi123
Alternate.de and Caseking there are a lot of 3090s but with premium price...

I had a Gigabyte Aorus Master before. Bought it from Mindfactory for 1850€. Sadly their OC Software (and the only way to setup the Screen on the Card) is a steaming pile of youknowwhat, that froze my computer on startup. Did a fresh windows install several times but the problem persists.

I have a FTW3 which work no so bad.
With XOC bios i can hit peak of 500W, but mainly 430-450avg max...
 
I'm now using the kp1000W bios, locked to around 48-50% power limit.
The card is flying at 500W avg, min/max, and the clock stay high (no drop)
Temp are not really higher than XOC (+3-6°C), i'm hitting 85°C max on GPU.
I just order a couple of Noctua fans high speed to cool that and surely go under 80°C.
 
So i'll like to use the 500W bios stock, but using it doesn't give me perf as i expect. When buying a FTW3 Ultra, i'm waiting to have a minimum of overclock capacity vs the 3090FE ...
Without the 1000W KP, it's like i buyed a 3090FE.
Overclock and perf depend of this power delivery, so with this broken , how i can use my FTW3 at max ?
 
Why other brand are not concerned by this problem ?
Even if you flash the 500W on MSI or ASUS, they fly, so we are seeing the problem is hardware is hardware. Maybe it can be fixed by software; don't know.
 
But it is for sure ... If my card fails with the KP bios on it, and they don't take me in RMA, it will the first and the last EVGA card :)
 

eXp67
I have a FTW3 which work no so bad.
With XOC bios i can hit peak of 500W, but mainly 430-450avg max...
 
I'm now using the kp1000W bios, locked to around 48-50% power limit.
The card is flying at 500W avg, min/max, and the clock stay high (no drop)
Temp are not really higher than XOC (+3-6°C), i'm hitting 85°C max on GPU.
I just order a couple of Noctua fans high speed to cool that and surely go under 80°C.
 
So i'll like to use the 500W bios stock, but using it doesn't give me perf as i expect. When buying a FTW3 Ultra, i'm waiting to have a minimum of overclock capacity vs the 3090FE ...
Without the 1000W KP, it's like i buyed a 3090FE.
Overclock and perf depend of this power delivery, so with this broken , how i can use my FTW3 at max ?
 
Why other brand are not concerned by this problem ?
Even if you flash the 500W on MSI or ASUS, they fly, so we are seeing the problem is hardware is hardware. Maybe it can be fixed by software; don't know.
 
But it is for sure ... If my card fails with the KP bios on it, and they don't take me in RMA, it will the first and the last EVGA card :)
 

My board power draw with the XOC BIOS was average 460 with spikes to 520.

But this numbers worth noting to me, if the card exceeds the 75Watt slot limit

Nice.

What cooler do you use on the Card?

changboy
My evga ftw3 ultra on port royal :
 

On AIR? What your oc configuration for that? Nice results.

@changboy could you please use the "quote" Function? I have no idea, who you are talking to😅

Had the 3090 Phantom GS but their aircooler sounds like a loud jet, besides that card works great and Software was ok also the powerbalancing, the 3090 FE but it had coilwhine as hell, a 3090 Suprim but dragon center to shut down only the rgb lights slows down the hole pc - powerbalancing was really good on these cards - only the FE has also great spikes up to 88 Watts on pcie. So all the cards where very similar on Port Royal and timespy and so on. I keep the FTW3 Ultra 3090 only because of 5 years warranty and it has the same fps in my games as all the other tested cards and needs "only" eg round 385 Watts instead of eg the msi which needs 420Watts for the same. I am at beginning a little bit scared about the pcie power draw "problem" but some spikes are normal and the 75 Watts are for each pcie Slot. So i think that doesnt matter too much. Another thing are the readouts of Hw info and gpu z. So i had a spike with 82.5 in gpuz and max in hwinfo was 80 Watt. Max Powerdraw was 457 Watt with normal oc bios while gaming testing in gpuz and max 430Watt in hw Info...i think the card is ok.