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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/30 08:49:50 (permalink)
Full heads up - swearing and name calling is against the ToS of these forums. Since it's been continuing rather hot and fast, I'd figure that I'd give you a heads up.
 
Leave it up and continue down that line and have the mods contact you / possibly ban you. Just figured that you didn't realize this since it's been going on for a good bit.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/30 09:00:46 (permalink)
A lot going on here.  Sorry for the intrusion. I landed here due to having some extremely poor performance in game I have been trying to track down.  Not to digress, 5950X, 32gb 3733 @ CL14 1T, 3090 FTW3 Ultra, Bios Version 94.02.26.48.F8. 850 Gold+ PSU. I play @ 1080p on a 360hz display.  Max Board Power Draw is 441, Max GPU Chip Power Draw is 237.  Averages are 315 and 152.  Max Clock is 1935 and mem 1219, average GPU clock is 1863 mem solid at 1219. Max temps under these conditions are 75 using extreme Heaven.  PCIe Power is 75 at the absolute max.  This seem ok, is there another bios I should try?  System could be fine and its a driver issue or the game.  Thank you everyone!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/30 09:23:42 (permalink)
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A lot going on here.  Sorry for the intrusion. I landed here due to having some extremely poor performance in game I have been trying to track down.  Not to digress, 5950X, 32gb 3733 @ CL14 1T, 3090 FTW3 Ultra, Bios Version 94.02.26.48.F8. 850 Gold+ PSU. I play @ 1080p on a 360hz display.  Max Board Power Draw is 441, Max GPU Chip Power Draw is 237.  Averages are 315 and 152.  Max Clock is 1935 and mem 1219, average GPU clock is 1863 mem solid at 1219. Max temps under these conditions are 75 using extreme Heaven.  PCIe Power is 75 at the absolute max.  This seem ok, is there another bios I should try?  System could be fine and its a driver issue or the game.  Thank you everyone!


 
A new thread in the main 30 series forums might be best, but:

I've seen talk about how the high core count 3000 series AMD chips need to have SMT disabled for low resolutions to get better FPS/GPU utilization, so it's not a leap to think that a similar plan may help the 5000 series. You might want to try that? Someone else that has an AMD system may chime in and correct me.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/30 14:42:48 (permalink)
Well, gentlemen,  I got my Optimus block on the 3090 and can safely say now I feel pretty damn good about where I'm at.   Running XOC HC Bios.  

(24c  ambient with my girlfriend home and heat on lol)      44 is the highest I've seen under load w/ voltage / power sliders maxed and 2145 core.      Pushed up to 2200 before I crashed stress testing furmark for an idea.   Its incredible how much these things scale with temperature.  I almost wanted to try this block on my other 3090 first as it "appears" to boost higher.    However once those power limits hit,  I'd see that other card struggling to hold 1800 mhz.  

Pci-E slot power 60W   highest I've seen is low 70 on this card.    Most of the time it doesn't show purely power limited as my other most recent 3090.   Will see what kind of port royal score I can get.

I tried MULTIPLE bioses on each of these cards.    The issue is NOT going to be fixed with bios flash.   Some cards run within spec some don't.   The odds are unfortunately you aren't going to get a high overclocking "golden" GPU simultaneously matched up with a nonpower limiting board w/o some serious 3090 binning.   





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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/30 16:28:37 (permalink)
I got about same temp with my EK waterblock 44c-47c when i game hours. Boost at 2100mhz and port royal is 15k.
post edited by changboy - 2021/01/30 16:36:01
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/30 16:34:01 (permalink)
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Well, gentlemen,  I got my Optimus block on the 3090 and can safely say now I feel pretty damn good about where I'm at.   Running XOC HC Bios.  

(24c  ambient with my girlfriend home and heat on lol)      44 is the highest I've seen under load w/ voltage / power sliders maxed and 2145 core.      Pushed up to 2200 before I crashed stress testing furmark for an idea.   Its incredible how much these things scale with temperature.  I almost wanted to try this block on my other 3090 first as it "appears" to boost higher.    However once those power limits hit,  I'd see that other card struggling to hold 1800 mhz.  

Pci-E slot power 60W   highest I've seen is low 70 on this card.    Most of the time it doesn't show purely power limited as my other most recent 3090.   Will see what kind of port royal score I can get.

I tried MULTIPLE bioses on each of these cards.    The issue is NOT going to be fixed with bios flash.   Some cards run within spec some don't.   The odds are unfortunately you aren't going to get a high overclocking "golden" GPU simultaneously matched up with a nonpower limiting board w/o some serious 3090 binning.   







What's your cooling setup? How many Radiators? Single or dual loop?


Just giving the temperature is a bit like some people saying "I get 70 fps" 😋




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Nevermind I just realized the attached photo 🤣


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/30 17:49:38 (permalink)
It'll be awesome to see later when then the house is less hot.   Also fans are set to pretty much silent currently.     In-game I haven't seen over 40c.   I was loading the crap out of it to get to 44.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/30 18:34:12 (permalink)
 Me i use 2 x 360mm + 1x 280 mm radiator, i belive the optimus block is a bit better then my ek one.
 
I have an optimus fondation for my cpu and its great. But the thing is those product are expensive as hell and i already pay 400 cad for the EK block for my 3090 and iam pretty sure the optimus block will have cost me 600 cad, for this i buy the EK one.
 
Not long time ago i bought block + backplate for 200 cad but today the price is pretty crazy. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 13:24:45 (permalink)
How to use oc with this card?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 15:01:03 (permalink)
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Found a Strix in stock today. I´m out of here!
Stay strong...!


Three days ago i get a Strix OC, too
(I still have the FTW3 Ultra)
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 15:06:28 (permalink)
awesome bios
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 16:15:36 (permalink)
update my score : 15 074
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/839658
 
Also look my gpuz :

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 16:49:23 (permalink)
 If you got a Strix then post your score if you doing better ???
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 17:00:42 (permalink)
no matter what BIOS I use my card can't draw over 440W. I hear this is a HW issue and cannot be fixed with software... Is this right? 3090 ftw ultra hybrid
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 18:39:19 (permalink)
why with my rtx-3090 ftw3 ultra i draw 525w then ?
 
Try watch a movie with mpc hc, it impressive how much power draw this program. I mean with madvr at highest setting.
It draw 490w sometime just watch a movie in 4k lol.
 
post edited by changboy - 2021/01/31 20:33:31
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 20:33:31 (permalink)
So I put the xc3 ultra hybrid bios on my ftw3 ultra and now I can’t flash back to the original bios. Any suggestions?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 20:44:20 (permalink)
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So I put the xc3 ultra hybrid bios on my ftw3 ultra and now I can’t flash back to the original bios. Any suggestions?

Post 3215 has instructions on how to flash it back using nvflash. If you didn't save the original VBIOS - https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?architecture=&manufacturer=EVGA&model=&interface=&memType=GDDR6X&memSize=24576&since=
 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 21:17:00 (permalink)
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why with my rtx-3090 ftw3 ultra i draw 525w then ?
 
Try watch a movie with mpc hc, it impressive how much power draw this program. I mean with madvr at highest setting.
It draw 490w sometime just watch a movie in 4k lol.
 


Watching a movie doesn't use the GPU in any meaningful way, 4k or not.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 21:32:25 (permalink)
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It'll be awesome to see later when then the house is less hot.



What are you talking about?  Water cooling doesn't make your house less hot.  Watercooling makes heat release from the card faster, makes the card perform better, therefore the card produces more heat, therefore it makes your house more hot, not less hot.

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/01/31 23:56:24 (permalink)
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compuclinic
It'll be awesome to see later when then the house is less hot.



What are you talking about?  Water cooling doesn't make your house less hot.  Watercooling makes heat release from the card faster, makes the card perform better, therefore the card produces more heat, therefore it makes your house more hot, not less hot.



He is curious, how his gpu Temps are, once he got lower ambient Temps in his house. If I remember right, his girlfriend turned the heater to 24°c


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/01 05:21:07 (permalink)
Yuppers!!!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/01 06:21:12 (permalink)
Coz you dont know how watch a movie with high quality filter on pc, just that.
 
I have try the 1000w bios and when i do port royal test i see 550w and 90W on pcie slot.
So i watch a movie and saw 688w and 108 on pcie ! So i change that bios verry fast coz its dangerous. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/01 12:52:34 (permalink)
Every now and then I pop back over here to see if there's even any updates in the works for this BETA vBIOS. I'm starting to wonder why I check... This BIOS is from October, EVGA! Update it! You have 99% of the information you need for fixes right in this thread!

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/01 14:53:42 (permalink)
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Coz you dont know how watch a movie with high quality filter on pc, just that.
 
I have try the 1000w bios and when i do port royal test i see 550w and 90W on pcie slot.
So i watch a movie and saw 688w and 108 on pcie ! So i change that bios verry fast coz its dangerous. 


are u being serious or joking.  The most i ever have drawn was 650 watts with time spy extreme with GPU at 150+ and mem 700+
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/01 16:33:01 (permalink)
 I'am serious, when i game or bench on port royal or any other bench ok and max pcie power draw was 91w but when i try watch a movie 4K uhd with MPC HC BE and MADVR filter with NGU filter at high quality i saw 688W power draw and 108W on pcie, its not a joke.
 
 So i stop using that bios and just use it 2 hour and doing test. I go back to the gigabyte bios 390w for the 2x 8pins and this gave me the same result in port royal then the 1000w bios, but in game its better coz my card boost always at 2085mhz to 2100mhz and dosent drop. Also my game is a way more stable and pcie reading just 68W, so all power draw go on the 3x 8 pins. No more high power draw on pcie. 
 
 And more if a bios can do that and draw just 68w on pcie coz EVGA can do it with the XOC bios and they dont do anything and push people like me to put other bios on the evga card, its not really smart from TEAM EVGA.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/01 16:36:15 (permalink)
 If i were you, i wont use the 1000w bios its dangerous and if you dont check always what happen you will fry ur card. A chance i check my gpuz when i begun watch the movie. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/01 17:19:04 (permalink)
Lower the power. I have it at 650 or 65% I never saw it draw more that. Why didn't u just lower the power instead of switching bios? At 650 it will not draw more than 100 on slot.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/01 18:19:54 (permalink)
 Ya maybe but after i saw this 108W on pcie i was scare to use it so i change it and the other reason its when i gaming even i was at 100% my card keep dropping at 1990mhz and this not happening with the 2x 8pins bios, my card boost at 2080mhz to 2100mhz all the time and dosen't drop anymore.
 
 This mean in game the 2x 8pins bios perform better then the 1000w...at least for me. Also i not worry about checking all the time the pcie power draw and play with the slider power.
 
 Also the memory didnt downclock at idle and always boost at the boost speed or you need to play with memory and put -mhz to get memory stop boosting at full speed also at idle power draw was 108w if i remember. So like you can see the 1000w bios its a shame to use. This is what i think hehehe.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/01 19:06:56 (permalink)
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 Ya maybe but after i saw this 108W on pcie i was scare to use it so i change it and the other reason its when i gaming even i was at 100% my card keep dropping at 1990mhz and this not happening with the 2x 8pins bios, my card boost at 2080mhz to 2100mhz all the time and dosen't drop anymore.
 
 This mean in game the 2x 8pins bios perform better then the 1000w...at least for me. Also i not worry about checking all the time the pcie power draw and play with the slider power.
 
 Also the memory didnt downclock at idle and always boost at the boost speed or you need to play with memory and put -mhz to get memory stop boosting at full speed also at idle power draw was 108w if i remember. So like you can see the 1000w bios its a shame to use. This is what i think hehehe.


I definitely don't see that on my card with the 1k. Strange...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/01 19:21:00 (permalink)
 Lol, so you tell me -ur memory not always on boost clock even at idle ?
                             -you tell me dont notice high power draw on pcie ?
                             -ur card not always pull 108w at idle ?
                             -how you sure you run with the 1000w bios then ?
Coz everyone have those issue coz its an unlock bios made for ln2, what is ur oc core and memory on ur card ?
How your score on port royal ? my score is 15 064 with my bios with 68W power draw on pcie. 
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