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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 07:47:24 (permalink)
On air my best pr score is 14821 xoc 500
I hope witn aio kit to brake the 15k

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 07:57:11 (permalink)
Your board is in AIR? Another question: Wich are the first 4 serial numbers?
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 08:05:00 (permalink)
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Def doesn't fix power issue. I have checked it today.


Thanks for your reply I saw it but yes no fix

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 08:32:38 (permalink)
Yeap air stock cooler.
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Later when ill be home i will post the 4 numbers

*I found the 4 numbers of mine in my phone
20141
post edited by Epsilon1190 - 2021/02/04 08:39:38

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 09:18:41 (permalink)
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Yeap air stock cooler.
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Later when ill be home i will post the 4 numbers

*I found the 4 numbers of mine in my phone
20141

Same as mine coming tomorrow. Fingers crossed to be a beast like yours!!!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 09:29:50 (permalink)
this is my first number of my card : 2014133987xxxxxx
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 09:39:28 (permalink)
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Yeap air stock cooler.
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Later when ill be home i will post the 4 numbers

*I found the 4 numbers of mine in my phone
20141

Same as mine coming tomorrow. Fingers crossed to be a beast like yours!!!


Thanks dude!
Mine isnt the best chip but ok is above avg.i think
And the beta bios works flawlessly.
Hope tomorrow to receive a better card than mine.

Probably tomorrow i will sell mine and im gonna try my luck again with strix or giga extreme.
I took my decision
Another think you need to check in hwinfo64.
Temp of the memory junction.
Mine after about 2 hours gaming at 4k uv-oc max is 72-74c

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 09:45:16 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry about anything below 100w. It won't blow up your 24 pin the majority of mobos are designed to handle 2 gpu's without aux power which is 100w+



 
1000% correct...  Everyone freaking out of slot power...  yet they forget 2 things....  that those are just spikes not sustained and also the 10% variance allowed so that 83 watts..  
Strange how evga had a 120 wat fuse on the card for the slot while other cards have a 240 watt fuse....  maybe because they know something we don't????   lol  those cooky electrical engineers  
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 09:54:16 (permalink)
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My ftw3 ultra on the XOC 500w bios draw 83w on pcie when card pulling 485w when i watch a 4k movie.
On normal bios pcie  draw around 77w.
On 1000w bios at 52% slider pcie draw 91w when card draw 525w.
On 1000w bios at slider 100% card draw 688w and pcie was at 108w. This is the max i saw.
 
So more you give power to the card more the pcie go high. On my motherboard i have plug the 4pin molex to help pcie slot but i dont know if this really help in some way coz i cant check this.
 
The info of the pcie i write here is the max value recorded from gpuz.




Yap thats what I encountered too - the more power the card draws in total, the more power will fly through the pcie connector.
I'd love to see some kind of prove, that adding supplemental power to the pcie connector (via mainboard or evga power boost cable) will safe your hardware because then I'd just add some extra power and go with the Kingpin BIOS.
 
 
 

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 10:08:42 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry about anything below 100w. It won't blow up your 24 pin the majority of mobos are designed to handle 2 gpu's without aux power which is 100w+



 
1000% correct...  Everyone freaking out of slot power...  yet they forget 2 things....  that those are just spikes not sustained and also the 10% variance allowed so that 83 watts..  
Strange how evga had a 120 wat fuse on the card for the slot while other cards have a 240 watt fuse....  maybe because they know something we don't????   lol  those cooky electrical engineers  




 
And still evga is replacing my card for pulling about 80 Watts.
 
Seems like "they" indeed know something we don't. 
 
 
 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 10:39:32 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry about anything below 100w. It won't blow up your 24 pin the majority of mobos are designed to handle 2 gpu's without aux power which is 100w+



 
1000% correct...  Everyone freaking out of slot power...  yet they forget 2 things....  that those are just spikes not sustained and also the 10% variance allowed so that 83 watts..  
Strange how evga had a 120 wat fuse on the card for the slot while other cards have a 240 watt fuse....  maybe because they know something we don't????   lol  those cooky electrical engineers  




 
And still evga is replacing my card for pulling about 80 Watts.
 
Seems like "they" indeed know something we don't. 
 
 
 


How many cards you ask for RMA? What #SN?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 10:43:29 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry about anything below 100w. It won't blow up your 24 pin the majority of mobos are designed to handle 2 gpu's without aux power which is 100w+



 
1000% correct...  Everyone freaking out of slot power...  yet they forget 2 things....  that those are just spikes not sustained and also the 10% variance allowed so that 83 watts..  
Strange how evga had a 120 wat fuse on the card for the slot while other cards have a 240 watt fuse....  maybe because they know something we don't????   lol  those cooky electrical engineers  




 
And still evga is replacing my card for pulling about 80 Watts.
 
Seems like "they" indeed know something we don't. 
 
 
 


How many cards you ask for RMA? What #SN?




 
This is the first one (and hopefully the last) 
 
2014 Serial number Black Lip


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 11:07:56 (permalink)
Some of you guys buy rtx-3090 like me i buy a 10$ t-shirt lol
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 11:11:30 (permalink)
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Some of you guys buy rtx-3090 like me i buy a 10$ t-shirt lol


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 11:44:15 (permalink)
Analyzing the current situation, there is something very wrong with these cards. It is extremely frustrating to have one on the way home. Worst of all, EVGA does not take a position on the subject.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 11:54:07 (permalink)
 What is sad its about 12w can be split on the 3x 4w on each 8pins !
So i dont know who made that desing but he better found another way to earned is living lol.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 12:17:56 (permalink)
Can anyone still remember reports of AMD RX480 damaging PCIE slots? That's the possible worst thing for PCIE power slot. 
 
BTW, if you go through PCIE standard from Wikipedia, PCIE standard is 12V 5.5A (66W) and 3.3V 3A (9.9W). It means 66W for 12V only should be the exact standard power limit, and that's the typical PCIE power draw from other 3090s like ROG Strix and MSI Suprim.
post edited by yangning8109 - 2021/02/04 12:37:52
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 12:25:09 (permalink)
Someone can ask EVGA if they can fix this with a new bios update maybe......
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 12:28:50 (permalink)
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Someone can ask EVGA if they can fix this with a new bios update maybe......


I like your comedic style. When/where is your next gig?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 13:03:53 (permalink)
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Someone can ask EVGA if they can fix this with a new bios update maybe......


I like your comedic style. When/where is your next gig?



Dude i already have 3 rig hehehe : i9-10980xe-i9-7900x-i7-4930k lol.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 13:04:55 (permalink)
Dont call me Intel Fanboy 
 
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 14:54:59 (permalink)
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Hi,
first time poster^^
 
I'm in a weird situation... My RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra has this power balance issue (Model 2014...).
When I use the stock OC BIOS the card will often pull up to 81 watt from the pcie connector.
My card really delivers, even when it's not exceeding 420 watts!
I was able to score 14180 in port royal with a custon voltage curve. The benchmark just flys through with 2040MHz and a memory offset of +720 at 0.956mv!!!
When I bench like that the card will never draw more than 430 watt in total and the pcie is at 77 watt max.
 
From all what I've read here that is kinda good - I'd love to see how this card would handle 500 watt but I'm scared to try the kingpin bios.
 




Looks like we got same version of this card have the problem but performing pretty OK.  Did you investigate GPU Z?  Mine did not show the issue of big load on #1 #2 and the #3 small.  I just see too little for all 8 pin.  I also got perma perf limiter showing the power gimp only.  May be might as well try less voltage as well.  I do not have any other idea for this type of card besides illegal 1000W bios.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 17:31:25 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry about anything below 100w. It won't blow up your 24 pin the majority of mobos are designed to handle 2 gpu's without aux power which is 100w+



 
1000% correct...  Everyone freaking out of slot power...  yet they forget 2 things....  that those are just spikes not sustained and also the 10% variance allowed so that 83 watts..  
Strange how evga had a 120 wat fuse on the card for the slot while other cards have a 240 watt fuse....  maybe because they know something we don't????   lol  those cooky electrical engineers  




 
And still evga is replacing my card for pulling about 80 Watts.
 
Seems like "they" indeed know something we don't. 
 
 
 


Talking to secretary on the phone with a flow chart doesn't mean any thing....
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/04 22:40:58 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry about anything below 100w. It won't blow up your 24 pin the majority of mobos are designed to handle 2 gpu's without aux power which is 100w+



 
1000% correct...  Everyone freaking out of slot power...  yet they forget 2 things....  that those are just spikes not sustained and also the 10% variance allowed so that 83 watts..  
Strange how evga had a 120 wat fuse on the card for the slot while other cards have a 240 watt fuse....  maybe because they know something we don't????   lol  those cooky electrical engineers  




 
And still evga is replacing my card for pulling about 80 Watts.
 
Seems like "they" indeed know something we don't. 
 
 
 


Talking to secretary on the phone with a flow chart doesn't mean any thing....


So we have reports from people round the globe receiving new cards out of RMA. And then we have you sayin "high pcie draw doesn't matter".
What are you trying to achieve?  Fact is, evga is exchanging most cards


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/05 03:02:43 (permalink)
Update:
 
I just received my RMA replacement Card:
 
Brand new in the Box 2014 Black Lip Taiwan Card. 
 
Serial number is smaller than the one I send back. So it could be an "older model" is there a way to check production date? 


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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/05 03:27:21 (permalink)
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elbramso
Hi,
first time poster^^
 
I'm in a weird situation... My RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra has this power balance issue (Model 2014...).
When I use the stock OC BIOS the card will often pull up to 81 watt from the pcie connector.
My card really delivers, even when it's not exceeding 420 watts!
I was able to score 14180 in port royal with a custon voltage curve. The benchmark just flys through with 2040MHz and a memory offset of +720 at 0.956mv!!!
When I bench like that the card will never draw more than 430 watt in total and the pcie is at 77 watt max.
 
From all what I've read here that is kinda good - I'd love to see how this card would handle 500 watt but I'm scared to try the kingpin bios.
 




Looks like we got same version of this card have the problem but performing pretty OK.  Did you investigate GPU Z?  Mine did not show the issue of big load on #1 #2 and the #3 small.  I just see too little for all 8 pin.  I also got perma perf limiter showing the power gimp only.  May be might as well try less voltage as well.  I do not have any other idea for this type of card besides illegal 1000W bios.




Yes, I did notice this as well. 2 of 3 8 pins worked "normal" and 1 was way behind in power draw. Might sound stupid but it kinda looks like the third 8pin connector is somehow married to the pcie connector in case of power draw^^.
 
It's sad that I have to undervolt my card just to avoid power spikes on the pcie connector...
btw. I've opened a ticket days ago but nothing came back :(
post edited by elbramso - 2021/02/05 03:30:18

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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/05 05:08:31 (permalink)
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Update:
 
I just received my RMA replacement Card:
 
Brand new in the Box 2014 Black Lip Taiwan Card. 
 
Serial number is smaller than the one I send back. So it could be an "older model" is there a way to check production date? 


If the slot draws more than 75 are u going to return that card too??? Time consuming process for something that doesn't interfere with the cards function.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/05 05:11:19 (permalink)
Has anyone wondered how accurate the watt measurements are on the card????? Everyone is assuming that what gpu z reports is correct????
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/05 05:33:26 (permalink)
Try reading out in some games with hwinfo 64 and gpuz at the same time. Sometimes its common and sometimes it differs widely. So in one game i had readout max power draw and pcie on gpuz was 457watt/82.5pcie and in hwinfo64 it was 430/80 Watt. Eg in GTA5 they read out the same so on...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA 2021/02/05 05:39:08 (permalink)
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Update:
 
I just received my RMA replacement Card:
 
Brand new in the Box 2014 Black Lip Taiwan Card. 
 
Serial number is smaller than the one I send back. So it could be an "older model" is there a way to check production date? 


If the slot draws more than 75 are u going to return that card too??? Time consuming process for something that doesn't interfere with the cards function.

 
 
Yes, if it's exceeding the pcie Spec more than I feel comfortable with it gets returned again. 
 
 

god503
Has anyone wondered how accurate the watt measurements are on the card????? Everyone is assuming that what gpu z reports is correct????

 

It's the easiest way of measuring the power draw.
 
And it got to be somewhat accurate enough if evga is replacing them for a Screenshot of gpu-z.
 
 
Also, have you ever seen the 8 Pin Wattage exceeding the 150 Watt? I didn't. So even if gpu-z is not accurate, it gives you an idea. 
 
 
I'm not trying to force you to RMA your card, if you feel comfortable with it. But would you please stop other people from trying to RMA? 
 
 
I have spent a metric ton of money on this gpu. So I'm expecting it to work within spec. (remember, if the load balancing would work as intended, the card could pull 525 Watt and still be in Spec for PCI-E Slot and 8 Pin power)
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