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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/06 10:26:39
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Bepzinky
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koroem Did any one with serial 2114 report good results with their replacement?
My 2114 card from special RMA got PR 14800 with air cooling.
Please do mention that it's overclocked. A stock 3090 FTW3 on air won't even do 14.000.
Pretty sure that comes with the territory here ...
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/06 10:33:58
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Bepzinky Yes, this is OK. My RMA card with SN2112xxx was perfect, 55-60W PCI-E draw maximum, could pull up to 534W on the 520W KP BIOS but I sold it, done with EVGA cards and Ampere for the time being. I'm now using a 1060 3GB which is plenty.
I'm just trying to figure out how some one can go from one of the highest end 3090's, to a 1060 3gb, and call it "plenty". i don't think a 3090 should have ever been an option in that case. lol
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/06 11:26:06
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Bepzinky Yes, this is OK. My RMA card with SN2112xxx was perfect, 55-60W PCI-E draw maximum, could pull up to 534W on the 520W KP BIOS but I sold it, done with EVGA cards and Ampere for the time being. I'm now using a 1060 3GB which is plenty. I'm just trying to figure out how some one can go from one of the highest end 3090's, to a 1060 3gb, and call it "plenty". i don't think a 3090 should have ever been an option in that case. lol
I laughed at that too. Makes zero sense.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS
2021/05/06 12:17:09
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I wonder if there will be updates like this available for 3080 owners in the future
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/06 13:13:41
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Bepzinky Yes, this is OK. My RMA card with SN2112xxx was perfect, 55-60W PCI-E draw maximum, could pull up to 534W on the 520W KP BIOS but I sold it, done with EVGA cards and Ampere for the time being. I'm now using a 1060 3GB which is plenty.
I'm just trying to figure out how some one can go from one of the highest end 3090's, to a 1060 3gb, and call it "plenty". i don't think a 3090 should have ever been an option in that case. lol
It's actually pretty easy: 1. See a 3090 for sale, salary just came in -buy it because YOLO and epeen, right? 2. Realize the card is poop, RMA it. 3. Meanwhile notice you're only playing World of Warships and Stronghold Crusader and other old stuff...for roughly 4-5 hours a week. 4. Sell the new 3090, break even and get a bargain 1060 at an auction I still have no clue how I ended with a 5950X and 3800 CL14 G.Skills though, guess the buy finger keeps itching.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/06 20:21:49
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ramsito82@lord winchester, I am from Spain. @orez-bus: bios galax 1000w bios kingpin 520w Bios Xoc 500w The maximum consumption in port royal with the best score has been 534w with a maximum in the pci of 68w Attached capture of the bios xoc 500w with bar that I use daily after passing port royal. Thanks for your info. It's possible that this bios might have fixed my power problem, though we both are still down on the third VGA. Mine might not be the overclocker yours is either, that or it's my slower cpu (7900x@4.8). With +160/1000 overclock settings and running your revision bios, 94.02.42.80.27 from techpowerup: I managed 14907 in PR: and 8357 in superposition 8k. TDP is way up from before (~107%, to 120%+) and the card holds more consistent clocks. I have screenshots of gpuz from 94.02.42.c0.02 and 94.02.42.80.27. c0.02 maxed out at 465w while 80.20 hit 505w (PCIe 65w). I had a second run with the latter at 513. PR run: *edit* can't post links yet I guess..sorry I compared the two with ABE and a few values were different. c0.02 on left 80.27 on right. def vram pl: 90000 62500 max vram pl: 96300 82500 max chip pl: 313393 312975 default slot pl: 66000 75000 I wonder if this last one is what helped? the kp 520w bios seems to be 66000/78000. pics attached.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/06 23:21:35
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Guys, I just want to give a quick update on my special RMA. - Card arrived yesterday, I've been without a card for 8 days which I consider as really fast processed RMA -> Thanks EVGA! - Card came in a sealed new box package, so I guess it's a new card with changed pcb -> Thanks EVGA! - Card is the black lips model (which I like more than the red clown lips) -> Thanks EVGA! - I stripped the air cooler of the card I checked for the voltage controller and in fact it's the new revision -> Thanks EVGA! After a put on the waterblock and filled my loop I quickly did some tests to see how the power draw would look like and although the card had the 119% TDP XOC BIOS on the OC switch position pre-installed the card wasn't able to pull more than 460w (pcie below 65w). I saved the BIOS and flashed the 520w KPE BIOS (no re-bar) to see the power draw and well it went up to 509w (pcie below 70w). So as a conclusion, the card is fixed but the XOC BIOS isn't^^ Did a quick OC and ran PR for 15186 score (temps arround 52° celsius). Just for comparison my old card was able to to achieve 15340 PR score with the XC3 BIOS (with open doors and 0° celsius outside and gpu temps ~ 35° celsius). My old card could get to 2245 MHz (when it was cold enough) but it crashed with + 750 on the Mem. My new card is quite stable @ 2115 Mhz (temps didn't matter) and is stable with +1500 on the Mem. All in all I'm happy with my replacement - ofc I've to do more testing. Btw. my old card was better when undervolting but it's kinda weired to complain about power draw when you undervolt anyways^^
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 01:00:20
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any advice if I should RMA it or not? in furmark I reached 82W max on PCIe slot... It seams the more board power I draw the more it takes from PCIe. PCIE 3 8pin is falling behind of the rest roughly 40-50W. Not sure if it could not damage my bord. In closed case with OC and max utilization card can reach 83C on air which is not that bad. How would anyone of you handled the situation? more details here: https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/3285177
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 01:19:23
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spider1701 any advice if I should RMA it or not? in furmark I reached 82W max on PCIe slot... It seams the more board power I draw the more it takes from PCIe. PCIE 3 8pin is falling behind of the rest roughly 40-50W. Not sure if it could not damage my bord. In closed case with OC and max utilization card can reach 83C on air which is not that bad. How would anyone of you handled the situation? more details here:
If you have serious problems, that EVGA can identify-it too, yes RMA. Recommend prior RMA to contact Support team
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 01:36:46
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Seeing pretty shocking performance with my 2nd 3090 ftw3 ULTRA (first one was running extremely hot): Using the XOC BIOS (OC BIOS switch position) and with power set to 119%, temp limit to 91, +voltage at 100% Using the only stable overclock I could manage (+110, +220) I am seeing 1890-1935 core clock...and overall power draw bouncing between 410W and 430W Seems that the BIOS is not working as intended!
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 03:15:38
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spider1701 any advice if I should RMA it or not? in furmark I reached 82W max on PCIe slot... It seams the more board power I draw the more it takes from PCIe. PCIE 3 8pin is falling behind of the rest roughly 40-50W. Not sure if it could not damage my bord. In closed case with OC and max utilization card can reach 83C on air which is not that bad. How would anyone of you handled the situation? more details here:
If you have serious problems, that EVGA can identify-it too, yes RMA. Recommend prior RMA to contact Support team
just contacted 3090oc@evga.com let see what they will tell me. I have added screens to prove my issue.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 05:59:53
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Cool so I've had my replacement rma 3090 about a week and the replacement card just died exactly the same way as the last one did. Is there actually any testing done on these cards. Thia time I have a red led next to the pcie power cables on the card. PC posts but no video at all. This is a pathetic failure rate. Not happy at all. I will be going to Asus for my next card.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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badass1982 Cool so I've had my replacement rma 3090 about a week and the replacement card just died exactly the same way as the last one did. Is there actually any testing done on these cards. Thia time I have a red led next to the pcie power cables on the card. PC posts but no video at all. This is a pathetic failure rate. Not happy at all. I will be going to Asus for my next card.
Was it from special RMA? What did you do when it bricked?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 09:31:33
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badass1982 Cool so I've had my replacement rma 3090 about a week and the replacement card just died exactly the same way as the last one did. Is there actually any testing done on these cards. Thia time I have a red led next to the pcie power cables on the card. PC posts but no video at all. This is a pathetic failure rate. Not happy at all. I will be going to Asus for my next card.
Was it from special RMA? What did you do when it bricked?
I called EVGA support and had them RMA the second one, so due to it being Friday i probably wont get the new one until Monday even though i paid for the advanced RMA. This will definitely be my last EVGA GPU at least of this generation though. I'll be looking for a full refund if this one dies. As for what i was doing, both times the PC was turned off, powered it on and no video/red LED. I run mine under water and GPU temps at idle are like 25c lol. No overheating here. Hadn't even got around to overclocking it yet.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 10:19:20
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orez-bus I managed 14907 in PR: and 8357 in superposition 8k.
Nice! This is my result with water cooling on the KPE 520w.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 10:21:46
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broski Card arrived Friday Could test it today .. and .. well...
It was delivered with bios 94.02.42.80.14 ... bios was locked at 450 watt
After starting X1 bios 94.02.42.80.15 was installed. RBAR 500 watt bios - with power never exceeding 450 :lol:
Well... read it already here, so no surprise ...
I installed the kingpin 530 rbar bios which was recommended in thread - and with this the card can finally draw up to 495 watt. .. yeah
First test resulted in14903 points in port royal
Moded card with ekwb water cooler - so far I am finally happy with my 3090 FTW3 :)
But eVGA really need to fix this bios mess....
Well.... It's seems the Xoc Bios is not the only Problem.... => the new rma card is dead... Well... Starting all over again... Back to Start... Worse than bevor :(
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 10:54:29
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broski
broski Card arrived Friday Could test it today .. and .. well...
It was delivered with bios 94.02.42.80.14 ... bios was locked at 450 watt
After starting X1 bios 94.02.42.80.15 was installed. RBAR 500 watt bios - with power never exceeding 450 :lol:
Well... read it already here, so no surprise ...
I installed the kingpin 530 rbar bios which was recommended in thread - and with this the card can finally draw up to 495 watt. .. yeah
First test resulted in14903 points in port royal
Moded card with ekwb water cooler - so far I am finally happy with my 3090 FTW3 :)
But eVGA really need to fix this bios mess....
Well.... It's seems the Xoc Bios is not the only Problem.... => the new rma card is dead...
Well... Starting all over again... Back to Start... Worse than bevor :(
Wait, what??? The new special RMA card died too? Which Bios you use when it died?
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 11:25:55
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orez-bus I managed 14907 in PR: and 8357 in superposition 8k.
Nice! This is my result with water cooling on the KPE 520w.
Oh, nice, in the top 30! which waterblock are you using? I'm still determining whether my card is worth a water block and/or whether it really needs rma. It's crazy expensive to ship these things back and forth. If you don't mind, I have a few questions: 1. what is the board rev? mine is a 1.0. (looks like it's on the pcie lock tab, so I understand if you don't want to pull out your card to check). this is a taiwan 2114 serial card. 2. is yours a replaced special rma card? 3. if so, does gpuz still show a ~50w deficit on the 3rd vga power connector on the firmwares you've tried? Are there any where that wasn't the case? 4. what firmware revisions have you tried? does your card hit ~500w with the current XOC bios that px1 pushes (I believe it's 94.02.42.c0.02)? Mine would not, but seems to with 94.02.42.80.27, which appears to be specifically for the FTW3 ultra. 5. is your pcie draw in-spec? mine got to mid 60s with 80.27 and was lower with c0.02.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 11:57:21
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Waterblock is the Optimus Absolute. If your card mounts horizontally you'll absolutely need a support of some kind as the card is about 8 pounds (~3.6kg) after putting the block on it. Temps with the block during that run: 1: EVGA227 Rev 1.0 2114 serial 2: Yes 3: 58w from the highest input to the lowest. 4: This is with the KPE520w bios ending in C0.0C. The bios that came on the card only hits 500w if I use a 4k monitor (in my case a TV). My default monitor is 3440x1440 ultrawide @ 180hz. 5: The 500w superposition 8k run saw max 75w as shown above.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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lobstar Waterblock is the Optimus Absolute. If your card mounts horizontally you'll absolutely need a support of some kind as the card is about 8 pounds (~3.6kg) after putting the block on it. Temps with the block during that run:
1: EVGA227 Rev 1.0 2114 serial 2: Yes 3: 58w from the highest input to the lowest.
4: This is with the KPE520w bios ending in C0.0C. The bios that came on the card only hits 500w if I use a 4k monitor (in my case a TV). My default monitor is 3440x1440 ultrawide @ 180hz. 5: The 500w superposition 8k run saw max 75w as shown above.
crap so the bug is still there? 75W is only for 12V but in total you are in 83W if you add 8W from 3.3V Today I submited mail to3090oc@evga.com to see if I qulify for the RMA.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 13:51:52
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spider1701 crap so the bug is still there? 75W is only for 12V but in total you are in 83W if you add 8W from 3.3V Today I submited mail to3090oc@evga.com to see if I qulify for the RMA.
Only on that bios. If you use the one designed for it then I never see over 66w. This particular bios gives me built in protections and is basically never power limited. My previous card drew over 90w on pcie as reported by software so it was definitely not the same issue. Further the three 8-pin connectors are much much more balanced when overclocking.
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
2021/05/07 14:03:07
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lobstar Only on that bios. If you use the one designed for it then I never see over 66w. This particular bios gives me built in protections and is basically never power limited. My previous card drew over 90w on pcie as reported by software so it was definitely not the same issue. Further the three 8-pin connectors are much much more balanced when overclocking.
I am currently using the original bios for the card yet the PCIE is owerloaded and when I tested it PCIE 3 8pin was behind for 100W. I really hope it will be solved by RMA as I plan to keep the card for long time.
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lobstar Waterblock is the Optimus Absolute. If your card mounts horizontally you'll absolutely need a support of some kind as the card is about 8 pounds (~3.6kg) after putting the block on it. Temps with the block during that run:
1: EVGA227 Rev 1.0 2114 serial 2: Yes 3: 58w from the highest input to the lowest.
4: This is with the KPE520w bios ending in C0.0C. The bios that came on the card only hits 500w if I use a 4k monitor (in my case a TV). My default monitor is 3440x1440 ultrawide @ 180hz. 5: The 500w superposition 8k run saw max 75w as shown above.
Hey, thanks for answering. Sounds like we might have the same board as mine is also an evga227 1.0. Anyway, those are nice temps. What was your average clock through the run? Yeah, even as-is, the card's weight worries me. I was looking at the ek vector and bykski blocks but read some horror stories about the vector killing cards and the bykski having fitment issues/not cooling VRMs. I'll have to check out the optimus.
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2021/05/07 15:01:56
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Ok so it has been a few months sense I checked the forums. Seems evga has added some new updates to the XOC bios. Can someone tell me if there is any new consensus with the best bios for the ftw ultra 3? I'm still on the XC3 bios which did me better than their original XOC bios, but the xc3 doesn't show accurate fan control or accurate watt numbers although I know it preforms better than their original XOC bios. so three questions; 1.Are their new XOC bios better than XC3 bios? 2.Did king pin release bios that are better than the XC3 bios? 3.Also my time spy graphics score is 21795, can I really hope to get much more from another bios improvement while still being on a modified air solution or would you all call it good where im at with the xc3 bios? Please update me thanks:P
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Re: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 XOC BIOS BETA
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elbramso I just managed to beat my personal best in Port royal with a score of 15400 https://www.3dmark.com/pr/1028396
Port Royal is so weird. I have over 100mhz more on my gpu core and score 2 less points than you lol.
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