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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/07 16:01:18
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So i have a recent 3090 FTW3 Ultra card.. Is their any reason to flash to a Hybrid Bios if i'm now using a EK front and back block?? Does it give a higher power limit or is it just a Name change in PX1?
There shouldn't be any difference between the bios' interms of performance. I would shy away from using the hybrid bios as more than likely, the fans may not operate correctly (different rpm range/count).
Yeah i'm not too worried about fans as i dont have any ;).. if theirs no difference then why bother.
Then slap a KP bios on there and have fun (but be safe lol)
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/08 08:41:28
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Anyone else with an LHR 3080 struggling to get it going over 400w even with the 450w BIOS? https://forums.evga.com/3080-FTW3-Ultra-not-going-over-400w-even-with-450w-bios-m3537242.aspx I made this topic when I first got it but ended up thinking it was fine/I was doing something wrong. Now with more knowledge and proper testing with Kombustor and Metro Enhanced Edition, I'm getting heavily power-limited the second anything gets near 400w. It's as if the card is ignoring the 450w BIOS and ignoring being told to use up to 118%.  Massively power-limited in Kombustor for example, I'm pegged at 400w and the curve above is set for 1.05v and 2160mhz. Something that runs in Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition because it draws around 370~380w max.  Frequency seen in Metro is 2145~2160mhz. Frequency in Kombustor craters due to hitting power limit. If I run Kombustor with 2100mhz at say 1.0v, it holds 2100mhz no problem, but that's because the power draw comes down to 37x~39xw. 8 pin #3 seems underutilized and even the PCIe slot could be drawing more in the picture above where I'm pegged at 400w. This forum seems to be littered with complaints about the 3080 FTW3 refusing to draw more power, but I haven't been able to find a single solution or EVGA confirming if there is a hardware issue/RMA is needed. Only other thing I can think is the 450w LHR 3080 BIOS supplied on this forum is not working properly.  I flashed a link in this topic, and yes GPU-Z reports it should go to 450w and the slider in MSI afterburner claims it can now go to 118%, but mines is clearly still pegged at 400w. @EVGATech_LeeM could you maybe confirm what BIOS file the LHR 3080FTW3 should be flashing for 450w, and also double-confirm it isn't buggy in regards to actually letting the card draw up to 450w? Thanks.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/09 07:21:09
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True story when I installed Precision X1 and let it run first time it took over and updated Bios on my EVGA GeForce RTX 3070Ti FTW3 was quite comforting to see and voila GPU Bios updated.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/13 11:34:52
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Please launch an XOC Bios for 3090 Ti
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/13 11:56:35
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Please launch an XOC Bios for 3090 Ti
We’re waiting EVGA. We want at least the same power limit as the lower tier 3090.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/13 13:09:57
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Was wondering if anyone else has tried the same thing but I was wanting to flash the 3080 TI FTW3 bios even though I have the 3080 TI XC3.
It just seems a bit disappointing that the XC3 Hybrid bios is running the same power limit of 356W even after massively upgrading the cooling capabilities.
Even the ftw3 on air has a maximum of 450W.
Was thinking if there would be any problems with flashing the ftw3 bios on the xc3 card.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/13 13:15:02
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Was wondering if anyone else has tried the same thing but I was wanting to flash the 3080 TI FTW3 bios even though I have the 3080 TI XC3.
It just seems a bit disappointing that the XC3 Hybrid bios is running the same power limit of 356W even after massively upgrading the cooling capabilities.
Even the ftw3 on air has a maximum of 450W.
Was thinking if there would be any problems with flashing the ftw3 bios on the xc3 card.
The xc3 is a 2-8 pin card vs the 3-8 pins on the ftw3. You will actually have a lower power limit because of this as the current balancing will say the non-existent 8 pin is getting the same power as one of the actual pin. Was tried when the cards first came out. You can flash other 2-8 pin cards bios' that have high power limits.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/13 13:22:27
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Was wondering if anyone else has tried the same thing but I was wanting to flash the 3080 TI FTW3 bios even though I have the 3080 TI XC3.
It just seems a bit disappointing that the XC3 Hybrid bios is running the same power limit of 356W even after massively upgrading the cooling capabilities.
Even the ftw3 on air has a maximum of 450W.
Was thinking if there would be any problems with flashing the ftw3 bios on the xc3 card.
The xc3 is a 2-8 pin card vs the 3-8 pins on the ftw3. You will actually have a lower power limit because of this as the current balancing will say the non-existent 8 pin is getting the same power as one of the actual pin. Was tried when the cards first came out.
You can flash other 2-8 pin cards bios' that have high power limits.
Hey thanks that was a really quick reply. There would not be any compatibility problems if I flash a different vendor's bios onto my EVGA card? I am just a bit new to messing around with bios's. I know that the RGB stuff in precision wouldn't work anymore but I don't really care about that. As long as the card is working
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/13 13:28:22
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Was wondering if anyone else has tried the same thing but I was wanting to flash the 3080 TI FTW3 bios even though I have the 3080 TI XC3.
It just seems a bit disappointing that the XC3 Hybrid bios is running the same power limit of 356W even after massively upgrading the cooling capabilities.
Even the ftw3 on air has a maximum of 450W.
Was thinking if there would be any problems with flashing the ftw3 bios on the xc3 card.
The xc3 is a 2-8 pin card vs the 3-8 pins on the ftw3. You will actually have a lower power limit because of this as the current balancing will say the non-existent 8 pin is getting the same power as one of the actual pin. Was tried when the cards first came out.
You can flash other 2-8 pin cards bios' that have high power limits.
Hey thanks that was a really quick reply. There would not be any compatibility problems if I flash a different vendor's bios onto my EVGA card? I am just a bit new to messing around with bios's. I know that the RGB stuff in precision wouldn't work anymore but I don't really care about that. As long as the card is working
Only concern is the fans. Possible one may not operate and/or they do not have the same rpm range (fans may run slower). Also, it is possible an HDMI/dp port may not work as well.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/14 03:44:32
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Anyone else with an LHR 3080 struggling to get it going over 400w even with the 450w BIOS?
I see that the VC is underloaded. Maybe that is one of the reason. And yeah, 1080p loads tha card significantly less than 1440p, for example. So try to check that on 2k, I assure you will see much more power drawn. And do not froget to switch off any FPS cap. My problem still is that VC reveals limiting far earlier then 450 Vtt. In Metro Exodus enhanced power limit takes place at already 400 Vtts. Jomama22
Only concern is the fans. Possible one may not operate and/or they do not have the same rpm range (fans may run slower).
Also, it is possible an HDMI/dp port may not work as well.
I tried 1000 Vtt bios from HOF, fans and ports are healthy on 3080 Ti FTW3U, but monitoring shows strange numbers. For example, on two PCI-E power plugs it reports about 10.00 Volts, not 12. In fact it is 12, I checked that with voltmeter. And also sad thing is to see strong power disbalance between power plugs. 3rd one tells about 50-60 Vtts, when 2 othes are highly loaded. I would ask EVGA engs again to fix power consumption on3080 tis.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/14 07:21:03
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Anyone else with an LHR 3080 struggling to get it going over 400w even with the 450w BIOS?
I see that the VC is underloaded. Maybe that is one of the reason.
And yeah, 1080p loads tha card significantly less than 1440p, for example. So try to check that on 2k, I assure you will see much more power drawn. And do not froget to switch off any FPS cap.
My problem still is that VC reveals limiting far earlier then 450 Vtt. In Metro Exodus enhanced power limit takes place at already 400 Vtts.
Jomama22
Only concern is the fans. Possible one may not operate and/or they do not have the same rpm range (fans may run slower).
Also, it is possible an HDMI/dp port may not work as well.
I tried 1000 Vtt bios from HOF, fans and ports are healthy on 3080 Ti FTW3U, but monitoring shows strange numbers. For example, on two PCI-E power plugs it reports about 10.00 Volts, not 12. In fact it is 12, I checked that with voltmeter.
And also sad thing is to see strong power disbalance between power plugs. 3rd one tells about 50-60 Vtts, when 2 othes are highly loaded.
I would ask EVGA engs again to fix power consumption on3080 tis.
Wouldn't be surprised if the watts figure is just a VxA calculation going on and just part of the odd voltage reporting errors. Would run some tests to see if it does indeed increase total power. Also, I wouldn't be worried about the pin power imbalance, known issue when swapping bios'.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/14 07:35:16
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Yep, it might be any kind of mistakes on third party bioses. As for test, the consumption is defenitely rising. In kombustor it's around 600 Wtts. Whcich means for me to switch it off immediately ))) In Metro or other tests no power limits occur, it's some increse in consumption, but it is hard to compare. As I remember (I sold me first FTW3), running this bios shows less consumption, but with possibility to overclock it more. Metro can work at almost 2200 with high voltage, which is good but hot even under watercooling. Now I'm using stock bios, but WC on the card decreases consumption very well due to less leakage currents. So I can get more even on stock. It looks like this now, I mean WC system: 
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/14 07:51:17
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Yep, it might any kind of mistakes on third party bioses.
As for test, the consumption is defenitely rising. In kombustor it's around 600 Wtts. Whcich means for me to switch it off immediately )))
In Metro or other tests no power limits occur, it's some increse in consumption, but it is hard to compare. As I remember (I sold me first FTW3), running this bios shows less consumption, but with possibility to overclock it more. Metro can work at almost 2200 with high voltage, which is good but hot even under watercooling.
Now I'm using stock bios, but WC on the card decreases consumption very well due to less leakage currents. So I can get more even on stock.
It looks like this now, I mean WC system:
Yeah, I feel you about the heat. You can always use the power % slider to reduce total power the card is consuming, no matter the bios, if it is of concern. In everyday use, you really aren't going to notice all that much of a performance increase. Best it allows you to do is maintain a voltage for a higher stable core clock since you aren't being power throttled. Rarely will a game demand over 600w at 1.1v. As an example, on my shunted/volt modded strix, I'll max out around 620w @ 1.13v load in rdr2 in a completely gpu limited scene (4k, max graphics settings). There are other games that will happily pull more but I have not encountered them. Benching on the other hand, pulled well over 850w @ 1.33v lol
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/14 08:10:53
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Jomama22You're right, it's always about a balance. It's a pity that 3080 FTW3 could easily reach 450 Wtt, but Ti cannot, with start of limiting at around 400. I understand it might be monitoring issue, and power draw is higher in real. But why then they don't fix it? That's my point. Show us the truth or show nothing. Btw, techpowerup tested 3080 Ti FTW3 and measured consumption with special hardware and they saw spikes till 500+ Wtts))) And they also saw 450 Wt on stress test. My exemplar is hot a bit, so I can go 1935/900 in any games w/o reaching limits, even in Metro or Quake II RTX. In non-hard games it is 2025/968-975.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/14 19:45:31
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I have tried searching through most of the forums and internet and I can't find anything so I'll ask here: Has there been any updated bios or XOC bios for the EVGA RTX 3070 Ti FTW3 with a higher power limit released anywhere? That's the single thing limiting performance on my 3070 Ti FTW3.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/14 20:42:39
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is the link for 3080ti ftw3 ultra to hybrid up to date?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/17 11:36:04
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@EVGATech_LeeM Thanks for this post! I was not aware of the issue with the fast boot before flashing the bios.
Maybe someone will find this helpful:
I got my 3080ti ftw3 ultra from caseking germany right on release and never used „normal“ bios. Few days ago i was thinking out of nowhere (i believe i was more mad since i working so much overtime and had no free time for my build haha) „hey lets test normal bios“ since i was worry about fans life and that these always spinning.. i booted into windows, noted „update“ under card details in px1 so hit update button and that was end of the story… i had both bioses upgraded to the version ….74 like the new one from normal bios from july 2021. today i flashed these version from this thread back, always with fastboot off, csm off and so on…
The issue was really strange. and i need to tell i still have an issue with normal bios. the card usage is not like on the OC bios. I will open a thread for this one maybe someone can help with that one.
But dont forget
TURN OFF THE FASTBOOT IN YOUR BIOS!
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/17 16:52:33
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none of these links to flash back my card from 3080 ftw 3 ultra hybrid back to stock work for me. ive done everything listed to the t. any help would be apprciated thanks
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/17 23:04:47
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DaBogoThat's a nuance while you switching between bioses. Only second reboot of the machine gives you real switching. You can easily check it with GPU-Z. After first reboot you will see the same bios in the info section. And of course you should update bios only after second reboot. Or even later) slickwicked616
is the link for 3080ti ftw3 ultra to hybrid up to date?
They are initial bioses. The latest you can get only through X1 or if ask EBGA technicians. Did you flash hybrid version into simple FTW3?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/19 16:50:30
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While I prefer the Nvidia reference designed cards, for my latest PC upgrade I purchased a rather disappointing 12G-P5-3955-KR video card. In trying to increase its performance to "average", I've run into the limit of the Power Target setting of 105%.
In response to a question about Precision X1's ability to configure slightly high settings, I was told it's a firmware limitation. It would require a "higher power limit " BIOS.
Looking on the download page and video cards forum, the only BIOS appears to address the limit is the: "EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS" thread. (Although, most posts in the thread reference the FTX and Hybrid cards.)
Is this the only "officially" released BIOS that can permit increasing the Power Target?
Bought the same card seen it in stock and impulse bought it(should have waited 2 weeks) and to my surprise 105% was the limit. Any word on an actually bios with an increased limit?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/19 18:06:28
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I have pushed my 3090 Hybrid K|PGP|N's OC switch to OC mode, but I can't use the 3988-XOC firmware? Card is 24G-P5-3998-KR.
Which BIOS should I use?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/21 20:16:57
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thanks i will try this tomorrow
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/22 09:44:33
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Posted an XOC BIOS for the 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra in the first post.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/22 09:47:10
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Posted an XOC BIOS for the 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra in the first post.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/22 09:58:29
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516W. initial impression: doesn't feel like much.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/22 10:10:45
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Posted an XOC BIOS for the 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra in the first post.
Thank you!!! 516w will be more than enough for anything this card should pull under normal circumstances. EVGA came through again.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/22 10:11:56
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Can someone with an ultra flash the bios, then extract it and post it so us non ultra owners can try it. Seems silly to restrict it to the ultra.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/22 15:10:43
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516W. initial impression: doesn't feel like much.
Try the colorful bios, it is the only one that works correctly keeping the clocks better without limiting consumption, the 516w xoc bios does not work correctly.
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/22 19:01:26
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Posted an XOC BIOS for the 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra in the first post.
The switch on the side, if I flip it to OC and install the XOC vBIOS will that only be on the the OC position or will it still work on performance? I think it just controls the fan curve right?
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Re: EVGA GeForce 30 Series HYBRID/XOC/Default BIOS Thread
2022/04/22 19:35:42
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EVGATech_LeeM
Posted an XOC BIOS for the 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra in the first post.
The switch on the side, if I flip it to OC and install the XOC vBIOS will that only be on the the OC position or will it still work on performance? I think it just controls the fan curve right?
Should only apply to oc position.
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