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2019/02/14 17:00:31 (permalink)
Hi Everyone,
 
EVGA greatly appreciates the EVGA F@H Community's efforts and dedication to help support research to eliminate disease and illness.  Over the last 11 years, many people have learned about and joined the cause, folding@evga passed Default, and the EVGA F@H Community became one of the closest groups on the EVGA Forums. Unfortunately, we've also lost some members along the way to cancer and illness.  However, a great many of you still keep up the fight, and EVGA is proud to help support the cause with EVGA Bucks.

With that said, as we move on into Year 12, we've had to take a long look at the amount of EVGA Bucks, participation, and point totals with regard to the current state of PC hardware. We decided to keep the same amount of EVGA Bucks for each tier, but the result is a large point increase for this year.  We realize that this will make it much more difficult to reach the second tier, but 20-Series cards have already trivialized the achievement of reaching 4m points into a matter of days, rather than weeks.
 
Tier 1 : 7m (7,000,000) (5 EVGA Bucks)
Tier 2 : 21m (21,000,000) (5 EVGA Bucks)
 
One other important measure to note for Year 12 is that the point totals are not set in stone.  This time, we're going to monitor the point totals to see how easy/hard it is to achieve these point totals for the community, and adjust if necessary. 
 
Please note the submission page still shows Year 11 until 3/1/19.

Thank You,
Lee
 
** Please don't forget to submit any points for Year 11 before March 15th, 2019 as we will cut off submission on the following day. **
 
Edit: Updated the Tier 1 and 2 totals based on final numbers.
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/14 17:01:02 (permalink)
 Fold On Team.
Thank you for anther Year of Folding EVGA
 
2.0M to 10M is going to be rough.
4.0M to 25M is really going to be very tight even for RTX Cards.
 
But One GTX 1080 Ti Folding 7x24 can get 30M a Month.
Shock and Awe all in one Thread
 
One Rule I wish EVGA would add this year is that you can only Fold under one Team.
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/14 17:17:50 (permalink)
Thank you for continuing this program  

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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/14 17:31:11 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 04:29:52 (permalink)
Thanks Lee
Everyone needs a challenge, can't argue with that.
It's slightly concerning you can't find EVGA 2080 ti (except the top of the range) cards for love nor money at the moment.
Any chance EVGA folders can get first option on fresh cards?
Also when will the associated 2080 ti water blocks will be back in stock?
 

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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 05:45:39 (permalink)
Woooo Whoooo! These higher goals should help keep some folks engaged longer as well (Depending on equipment).

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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 07:40:00 (permalink)
Glad to see EVGA is continuing the promotion, thank you! 
Slightly worried to see the thresholds raised so high, but happy to see this jump acknowledged and not set in stone.
 



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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 07:44:16 (permalink)
Thanks again to EVGA for supporting the good work that everyone here does! My lone 1070 would have no chance of making the second tier, but thankfully I just picked up a second one on the cheap. Time to slap that puppy in my rig!
 
edit: fixed typo
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 09:15:14 (permalink)
Thanks for continuing the promotion!
Glad I got myself a 2070 recently, haha.
 
Edit, just glanced at previous months, a 980, 1060 and 1050ti folding 24x7 are good for about 30 million/month so I would have been ok, but still glad to have the 2070. 
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 09:39:51 (permalink)
I'm happy to see a lot of constructive feedback from the community, both here and through some emails or PMs.  I think it's fair to say that there's still a narrow window for us to receive more feedback before everything's finalized for Year 12.
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 09:45:39 (permalink)
I have a 1080ti and a 2070 that are chugging away, and I crossed 30 million after 14 days. Each produces about 1.05 million on average as far as I can tell. I will eventually have to stick to the monthly goals, but for now, I just let them run while the weather is cool enough for folding.

I really do like the idea of dynamically adjusting the points if needed.

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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 10:25:49 (permalink)
I know we all appreciate EVGA's continued support of our folding and crunching teams. The top tier maybe a bit too high of a jump for some folders. Not everyone can afford the new cards since they have almost more than doubled in price. Not everyone can fold 24/7 either. When the weather warms up it affects some of our team mates as well. Is it possible to bring the top tier down to 20,000,000 or so? What was the considering factors to decide on these thresholds? If it was based on solely the 20xx series performance, that wouldn't be a true reflection of our team I don't feel. 
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 11:07:39 (permalink)
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I know we all appreciate EVGA's continued support of our folding and crunching teams. The top tier maybe a bit too high of a jump for some folders. Not everyone can afford the new cards since they have almost more than doubled in price. Not everyone can fold 24/7 either. When the weather warms up it affects some of our team mates as well. Is it possible to bring the top tier down to 20,000,000 or so? What was the considering factors to decide on these thresholds? If it was based on solely the 20xx series performance, that wouldn't be a true reflection of our team I don't feel. 


No, 20-Series performance alone wasn't the main driving force.  A factor, but not the only factor.


Here are a few items that were part of the consideration, with no particular order:
  • # of EVGA Bucks claimed by the Community (this will always be a factor for every promotion)
  • Performance of current Gen cards, performance of last Gen cards, performance of potential next-Gen cards, and performance of older Gen cards
  • Ease of attaining Year 11 numbers
  • Variables (one of the reasons why we're reserving the ability to change the point totals)
    • Single vs. multi card setups
      • There are rough PPD totals for most cards, but there's no easy way to determine how many folders run multiple cards that may make the numbers more attainable
    • The number of people that fold only until they hit the monthly number and stop
    • The number of people that might reconsider participating in this program after raising the point total at different levels
We certainly looked at another year of easing people into moderately higher numbers.  From my point of view, I feel this is more of a transition year to readjust the point levels to appropriate levels.  "Appropriate levels" will hopefully be determined through the year.  It might be rough for the early going, but this will setup the program better for the next few years. 
 
Again, we appreciate this feedback.  Part of the reason we announce this early is to hear from everyone.  This is one of the bigger changes we've made to the program, and it's a large task to make it correct.  We'll be reviewing this again - probably early next week - so any final comments will be appreciated.
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 11:34:04 (permalink)
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No, 20-Series performance alone wasn't the main driving force.  A factor, but not the only factor.


Here are a few items that were part of the consideration, with no particular order:
  • # of EVGA Bucks claimed by the Community (this will always be a factor for every promotion)
  • Performance of current Gen cards, performance of last Gen cards, performance of potential next-Gen cards, and performance of older Gen cards
  • Ease of attaining Year 11 numbers
  • Variables (one of the reasons why we're reserving the ability to change the point totals)
    • Single vs. multi card setups
      • There are rough PPD totals for most cards, but there's no easy way to determine how many folders run multiple cards that may make the numbers more attainable
    • The number of people that fold only until they hit the monthly number and stop
    • The number of people that might reconsider participating in this program after raising the point total at different levels
We certainly looked at another year of easing people into moderately higher numbers.  From my point of view, I feel this is more of a transition year to readjust the point levels to appropriate levels.  "Appropriate levels" will hopefully be determined through the year.  It might be rough for the early going, but this will setup the program better for the next few years. 
 
Again, we appreciate this feedback.  Part of the reason we announce this early is to hear from everyone.  This is one of the bigger changes we've made to the program, and it's a large task to make it correct.  We'll be reviewing this again - probably early next week - so any final comments will be appreciated.




I don't understand why the ease of Year 11 numbers is a factor.  Granted, the year 11 target was far too low (I advocated that Year 11 target be doubled from where it ended up).  Does this imply that you are now raising target above what they should actually be to compensate for the fact that they were low in the past?  i.e. You gave out too many in the past so now you're giving out too few so that on average you're where you want to be?  I can't see any other reason the ease of Year 11 would be relevant in setting future targets?
 
I also don't understand the relevance of future card performance.  Unless they are being released in the next few months this seems irrelevant as future points levels can be adjusted to coincide with future cards.

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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 11:39:56 (permalink)
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We certainly looked at another year of easing people into moderately higher numbers.  From my point of view, I feel this is more of a transition year to readjust the point levels to appropriate levels.  "Appropriate levels" will hopefully be determined through the year.  It might be rough for the early going, but this will setup the program better for the next few years. 
 
Again, we appreciate this feedback.  Part of the reason we announce this early is to hear from everyone.  This is one of the bigger changes we've made to the program, and it's a large task to make it correct.  We'll be reviewing this again - probably early next week - so any final comments will be appreciated.

 
While I am generally supportive of a large increase in the points required, I will join the chorus of people who are grateful for EVGA's support but also concerned that the point threshold is significantly too high. 

An important issue to consider is the asymmetric nature of over-estimating the required points threshold.  Its easy to scare people away and convince them its not worth the time or effort to fold, but once they're gone its generally significantly harder to convince them to come back by lowering the threshold several months down the line.  A more conservative estimate with a gradual increase seems like a better approach than an over-estimate and gradual decrease.

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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 11:54:19 (permalink)
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I'm happy to see a lot of constructive feedback from the community, both here and through some emails or PMs.  I think it's fair to say that there's still a narrow window for us to receive more feedback before everything's finalized for Year 12.


As someone who provided feedback via email, I'll post it here as well to weigh in with my $.01 if it furthers the debate/dialogue.
 
From the outset I want it to make it clear that my motivation is not personal and I have surpassed 25 million points monthly for the last several years (other than a mobo failure 5-6 months ago and some occasional downtime).

As someone who has long been advocating that EVGA raise the required points for both Tier 1 and Tier 2 of the folding at home program, I am very concerned that the most recent increase is far too extreme and detrimental to the EVGA folding program in general.  On the forums I had previously advocated that year 11 should have been 4 million and 8 million respectively to be in line with the power of the 10xx series GPUs and that year 12 should be 8 and 16 million to be in line with the 20xx series GPUs and stand by these numbers.
 
In the past monthly folding targets have been accessible to the casual but dedicated folder, accessible to a wide audience of potential folders that had the most current generation of GPUs.  Many of these folders typically caught the folding bug and went on to become hardcore dedicated folders. 

The numbers I proposed are in line with the historical norms from when I started folding with EVGA back in Year 3, but more importantly they are a reasonable expectation of a casual but dedicated folder.  I don't know that the explicit standard was ever set, but the increases in the first 8-10 years of the program seemed to be roughly in line with what a middle of the line xx60 GPU could fold in approximately 20-21 days.  So if someone bought a 460 (the card I started folding on) and folded 3 weeks a month they would roughly hit the tier 2 mark.  If you had a higher end GPU or a bigadv folding rig (no longer possible) you could obviously hit it sooner, but still required a substantial effort.

My best estimate of the performance of the 2060 card comes from OCN's GPU database: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vcVoSVtamcoGj5sFfvKF_XlvuviWWveJIg_iZ8U2bf0/pub?output=html which estimates 800,000 PPD for a 2060.  This would equal 24 million points over a 30 day month or 24.8 million points in the best case of a 31 day month, still missing target of 25 million points, while leaving no leeway to play games or allow for any (inevitable) computer downtime.  Granted, if you have a better estimate of the 2060's PPD that estimates it to be 1.25 million PPD my point is moot, unfortunately I don't have the finances to purchase a 20x0 series card to test this myself.

I fully agree that last year's numbers were far too low, and a substantial increase is warranted.  I am concerned that they are too extreme and anyone without a 2070 card or better (or multiple GPUs) will not be able to hit them.  Upgrading to the current generation of GPUs to hit the latest tiers is to be expected, but upgrading to a higher power card and folding longer is unprecedented.  When you combine this with significant increase in price of GPUs over the past 10 years and the erosion of the US dollar (and correspondingly EVGA buck) due to inflation over the past 10 years, the current proposal for year 12 appears very detrimental to a causal but dedicated folder in the EVGA folding community.

A casual folder now has to buy the xx70 card rather than the xx60 card, which is more expensive, and has to fold on it as long or longer than was expected in the historical norm (excluding the most recent few years) only to be rewarded less seems very detrimental to the EVGA's support for the Folding at Home program and the folding community at EVGA.

I don’t dispute the need to increase the points required to hit tier 2 in Year 12, but more importantly I would urge them to do so in a manner that is not so exclusive.  Keep in mind that most folders spend far more on electricity than they do on hardware to support this cause, and most people fold because its a good cause worth supporting, not simply for the EVGA bucks (though they are a nice bonus and we are grateful for the support and also recognize that some simply are bucks folders).  I would also urge EVGA to increase the reward to 12 or 13 EVGA bucks to keep pace with inflation, but that concern is small in comparison to keeping the tiers within reach of a casual but dedicated folder.

Thank you for your time and for continuing your support for the EVGA Folding at Home program.  The last thing I want to do is come across as entitled or ungrateful, but I also want to see the program continue to thrive and be accessible to all folders.

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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 12:01:31 (permalink)
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I don't understand why the ease of Year 11 numbers is a factor.  Granted, the year 11 target was far too low (I advocated that Year 11 target be doubled from where it ended up).  Does this imply that you are now raising target above what they should actually be to compensate for the fact that they were low in the past?  i.e. You gave out too many in the past so now you're giving out too few so that on average you're where you want to be?  I can't see any other reason the ease of Year 11 would be relevant in setting future targets?
 
I also don't understand the relevance of future card performance.  Unless they are being released in the next few months this seems irrelevant as future points levels can be adjusted to coincide with future cards.

It's probably more accurate to say Ease/Difficulty of Year X numbers. Certainly we'll review the same after Year 12, when we go over the numbers for Year 13. Although this factor in and of itself may not be the most important factor, it's heavily related to some of the other factors on the list. For example, if people can reach both tiers within a week with current and much older hardware, then we aren't setting the right target numbers.  Conversely, if we see a lot of drop-off after the year, then we'll need to revise the targets.
 
Overall, it's more of a factor this year simply because the performance creep of cards show that Year 11 numbers have finally hit a point where the numbers are far out of touch with current performance capabilities of cards for the high-end and lower-end hardware.  The intention is to not rubber band the opposite direction, despite its appearance, but we do need to set higher goals regardless.
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 12:05:47 (permalink)
That makes much more sense.  Year 11 was certainly an outlier that was far too low of a target.  Thanks for clearing that up

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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 12:08:09 (permalink)
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I'm happy to see a lot of constructive feedback from the community, both here and through some emails or PMs.  I think it's fair to say that there's still a narrow window for us to receive more feedback before everything's finalized for Year 12.


As someone who provided feedback via email, I'll post it here as well to weigh in with my $.01 if it furthers the debate/dialogue.
 
[...]

Your email was forwarded to me this morning, and it's one of the reasons why I'm carefully reading much of the feedback the community is giving on this.  Again, I greatly appreciate all the thoughtful responses.  You guys (the EVGA F@H team) care very much about not only the cause, but the health of the team, so I'm paying close attention to a lot of these responses.
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 12:14:18 (permalink)
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Your email was forwarded to me this morning, and it's one of the reasons why I'm carefully reading much of the feedback the community is giving on this.  Again, I greatly appreciate all the thoughtful responses.  You guys (the EVGA F@H team) care very much about not only the cause, but the health of the team, so I'm paying close attention to a lot of these responses.



I can assure you that the feeling is mutual.  The folding community greatly appreciates all the time, effort and support that EVGA dedicates to the folding at home team.  I (and many others) would not bother providing feedback if we felt it would be wholly ignored. 

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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 12:20:10 (permalink)
First off I want to say thank you for the program and EVGA's generous backing of the folding project.
I do believe going to 10/25 is too much of an increase from 2/4. 
It will take a gtx1080 30 days at 833,333PPD a 1080Ti at 1.2M PPD will do it in 21 days.
That is if you get good work units, not every WU gives good PPD, some are less than other.
The for the buck folders from other teams like cure/folding coin may feel it is not worth it and just stick with the coins.
I have to admit I stop folding once I hit the required amount. But others and I put a lot of time and effort in to the 
EVGA crunching BOINC team looking for cures and other scientific projects. Trying to put up a good competitive team and representing EVGA in a good way. We do pretty good for a small BOINC team, we hang with the best out there.
Also In the winter running a lot of hardware helps heat the house, but in the Summer most of us, folders and BOINC have to cut back. The heat from computers with Summer heat is a big load on an A/C unit and electric is getting expensive. 
Also it takes more than a GPU to fold to earn the Bucks, it takes a motherboard,PSU, memory and a case.
Those parts fail or need to be upgraded from time to time too. Si it is not just use the bucks for a better GPU
 
I try to give back to EVGA buy buying EVGA products. I have 15 computers in my house and most all have EVGA PSUs and GPUs, 8 have EVGA Mboards and a couple two or three EVGA cases. I am 100% sure I am not the only one with a house full of EVGA hardware that we use for folding and BOINC. I heat my house in the Winter with it all.
Not to mention the EVGA Tshirts, I have several I used the bucks for, walking bill board advertisement for EVGA. 
Again, thank you for the promotion, but keep in mind not everyone has 1080 or better GPUs to fold with. And 10/25 is a huge increase over 2/4.  Maybe ease into it over a couple two or three years. 2/4 to 5/10 then 8/15 then 10/20
So people can see it coming and plan for it.
 
 
 

 
 
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 12:32:08 (permalink)
Good feedback would best come from Folders that currently only Fold enough for the EVGA Bucks.
I say this only because I Fold but I do not Fold Only for The EVGA Bucks, I Fold for the Cure, the Bucks are extra.
I started to Fold and did not even know about the EVGA Bucks until after I stated Folding.
From our Team List https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&a=1&srt=1&t=111065 (Point last 24 Hours)
Start at 51 and work down the list and ask them in an email or even a PM for there thoughts as most do not even read the Forums.
For them this this could push them away and even stop Folding altogether.
This list is the current New Members to our Team
https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&a=2&t=111065
Maybe ask a few of them as well with this change.
 
As I posted above "One GTX 1080 Ti Folding 24 Hours a Day 7 Days a Week can get 30-32M a Month." Dedicated For Only Folding 90% of the Year.
With most Team Members only have there one computer that they also use for Gaming and Home Office Works and other uses.
With One Computer in the Home they would only be able to use it for Folding and this in turn would also increase their Elect Bill.
This alone would stop me from Folding.
 
8/16 Sounds like a good Start for Year 12
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 13:05:23 (permalink)
Thanks for continuing to support folders, EVGA.
 
EDIT: So is the month of March 2/4 or is it going to be 10/25?
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 13:18:41 (permalink)
The new year starts in March. 10/25 is not set in stone as of yet. But March will be the new set amounts needed.
Hopefully more people will chime in before the deadline. Looks like there is still a few days they are thinking it over.

 
 
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 14:25:30 (permalink)
imho, said this last year too, the point targets for year 11 where half what they should have been. that said a 5-6x increase over the previous reward lvls means more than a doubling in points year over year. this is a bit steep of a rise, imho, but its not that far off of what it should be when keeping in mind people should have earned ~$240 EVGA Bucks over the last 2 years. that is a HUGE discount that you can get on a card that can hit these current lvls without accounting for your previous cards work on top of that. that's the part that people seem to neglect to remember or mention in most discussions regarding EVGA Bucks.
 
if people really think the 25M target is just too extreme then a 3 tier system at $4 a tier would be the best trade off at this point.
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 15:56:37 (permalink)
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if people really think the 25M target is just too extreme then a 3 tier system at $4 a tier would be the best trade off at this point.


I just read this entire thread for the first time and I was thinking of adding this as well only due to the possibility of losing quite a few folders. I am inline with a required points increase. 
Maybe double the current requirement but adding a bonus for a long shot tier 3 goal to encourage people to fold more 
 
Tier 1 : 4   (or +)                  (5 EVGA Bucks)
Tier 2 : 8   (or +)                  (5 EVGA Bucks)
Tier 3 : 50 or 100m          (5 or 10 EVGA Bucks)
 
I think doing something along these lines would lesson the chance of losing existing team members who fold mostly for the bucks by adding a large reward.
I personally fold only for the cure and use mostly eVGA  products. I plan to continuously  build the farm and keep building more. I would happily donate my tier 3 reward to another folder who does not currently have a farm to keep them on board as well. 
Another thought that crossed through my mind would be to align those higher targets to those who have registered newer 20xx cards. Granted many may not be using eVGA products. But, if you see the numbers being hit on day 1 or 2 it is obvious. 
 
Or do  a TZC type raffle and no bucks.  1-3 prizes at random after folding all month or past a smaller minimum. There is a giveaway for gamers, why not folders and crunchers
" tier 3, fold 50 mil points and be entered in the drawing to win a new ____________ " (dreamin, lol)
 
All said, I will continue folding for this team regardless of any point structure and wholeheartedly thank eVGA and team eVGA for your support in finding a cure. 
 
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 17:19:13 (permalink)
double is not enough. the biggest driver for higher targets is that a lot of people are not folding all month anymore. they fold for a week or couple days and stop. back 6 years ago i would fold all month and not hit the 2nd tier, it happens no big deal. also looking at the average PPD of the top 1000 mid month is the wrong way to gauge user activity. you need to check everyone's daily output on the 1st week of the month, for that is how long the "hump" lasted this month. enough people finish within the first week that it is a visible 80M PPD drop when people stop for the month.
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 17:21:28 (permalink)
Thanks EVGA for continuing the folding bucks program. Enjoyed all the intelligent points above and will keep an eye on this topic for more.
 
The levels are too high IMHO. I will always fold at a pace I'm comfortable with and feel lucky to be able to do it at all. The proposed levels it would take me away from crunching GPU projects that are as important to me as folding. It all comes down to electricity costs for these hobby's of mine. Many people don't have these concern's but a lot do.
 
 


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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 18:48:36 (permalink)
Retracted.
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Re: EVGA Folding @ Home Year 12 2019/02/15 19:04:40 (permalink)
Thinking a bit more about this, why not triple the threshold?  From 2 million to 6, and 4 to 12 million, that may seem more "reasonable" to many . JMO. I personally like the third level, but feel 50 million is way too high at this time. Chris mentioned the amount per year that can be earned. I don't always use those bucks on a GPU. Sometimes I use them for folding prizes when we are lucky enough to have contest's, ect. I just hope whatever is decided doesn't cause a big drop in team production.  
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