B0baganoosh

jaredbyoung

austinhouk802

Sajin

Tigerheli79
I tried to play New World on my 3090 ftw3 today, black displays and gpu fans went nuts. Crashed after only minutes in game. I held the power button on the tower to shut it down right away. Rebooted and refunded New World. Someone better fix this. cards are getting fried.

New world isn’t the issue. Bad card pcb build quality is the problem. Kingpin and founders edition cards work fine with this game.

I would partially disagree. New World aided in pointing out manufacturer issues with the earlier batches of specific models, but NO GAME should be coded in such a way to indirectly target certain weak spots of cards. There IS something going on with New World whether you, or anyone else, wants to admit it or not, AS WELL as with EVGA and other manufacturers processes too.
 
I shouldnt be able to run Furmark or Unigine at 8K for an hour with 99% utilization and no FPS cap and have NO ISSUES, but New World causes game breaking, and sometimes card destroying, issues at 2K and anything higher than 60fps.

A game shouldn't be able to do this to a card because the card should have protections against this type of thing, either at the hardware level or at the firmware/VBIOS level. Yeah, there's something weird about what New World is doing that causes this vulnerability to be exposed, but ultimately this is a card vulnerability that should be corrected by the card manufacturer. If the vulnerability exists it could be exploited on purpose at some point in the future. 

This is true. I am not disagreeing with that whatsoever. That said, why is New World putting this kind of load on the cards? Isn't it totally unnecessary? Also, to Sajin's point, furmark was driver and BIOS limited ages ago by Nvidia, but why haven't they stepped in to limit this new power virus that is damaging their cards?

Only poorly built cards are being damaged. That is why.

Sajin

B0baganoosh

jaredbyoung

austinhouk802

Sajin

Tigerheli79
I tried to play New World on my 3090 ftw3 today, black displays and gpu fans went nuts. Crashed after only minutes in game. I held the power button on the tower to shut it down right away. Rebooted and refunded New World. Someone better fix this. cards are getting fried.

New world isn’t the issue. Bad card pcb build quality is the problem. Kingpin and founders edition cards work fine with this game.

I would partially disagree. New World aided in pointing out manufacturer issues with the earlier batches of specific models, but NO GAME should be coded in such a way to indirectly target certain weak spots of cards. There IS something going on with New World whether you, or anyone else, wants to admit it or not, AS WELL as with EVGA and other manufacturers processes too.
 
I shouldnt be able to run Furmark or Unigine at 8K for an hour with 99% utilization and no FPS cap and have NO ISSUES, but New World causes game breaking, and sometimes card destroying, issues at 2K and anything higher than 60fps.

A game shouldn't be able to do this to a card because the card should have protections against this type of thing, either at the hardware level or at the firmware/VBIOS level. Yeah, there's something weird about what New World is doing that causes this vulnerability to be exposed, but ultimately this is a card vulnerability that should be corrected by the card manufacturer. If the vulnerability exists it could be exploited on purpose at some point in the future. 

This is true. I am not disagreeing with that whatsoever. That said, why is New World putting this kind of load on the cards? Isn't it totally unnecessary? Also, to Sajin's point, furmark was driver and BIOS limited ages ago by Nvidia, but why haven't they stepped in to limit this new power virus that is damaging their cards?

Only poorly built cards are being damaged. That is why.

There is another alternative: the 3090, at least closer to launch, was an impractically stressed product for the purposes of achieving a ‘higher end sku’ that resulted in hardware failure at peak performance. Software limiters should prevent most issues, but there would have been a leadership decision on the risk of failure that greed won out on. Some partners may have added mitigating elements, but in some areas it may not have been enough.

Hello, I just registered in the forum to comment a bit about my situation .... I hope to write in the correct forum .... I am using the google translator.
Well, I bought an EVGA Nvidia GeForce RTX3090 FTW3 UltraGaming 24GB - Graphic ... on 11/06/2020.
All good, in the beta of new world I tried the game some time after 3 or 4 hours suddenly the fans of the card began to sound like crazy, it seemed that a plane was located in my room with the famous black screen.
Totally shut down the pc ... that noise from the fans was not normal, when I restarted I did not have the card drivers so I had to reinstall them, .... since it looked all wrong as if it were in safe mode ... hope you understand me.
After installing them everything went well, I never put the NEW WORLD beta again.
Now with the launch I gave it a try again, but after seeing so many comments from people with problems in this forum, on steam .... reddit.
The truth is that I lost the desire to play it and I asked for a refund of the game.
Now .... I have doubts .... maybe it is a good idea to contact my store to change my RTX3090 FTW3 EVGA, since it is still under warranty.
But of course my card is not burned, even if the store sends the card to EVGA's technical service, maybe they won't change it for a 2021 card, right? since I read that the current ones had no problems.
Keep in mind that I am in Spain .... and in the store they already told me that I had to wait at least 30 days, and there are many days without a pc!
What do you think I send the card, will they change it for one of 2021?
thanks to whoever answered ...

AnTse
Howdy!
 
Wanted to share my experience with my 2nd 3090 FTW3 which was up to shenanigans last night also.  My original 3090 lasted 3 days after initial install.  Was in the first wave of cards shipped.  Was replaced and has been working perfectly in every game since.  Also have a Hydro Kit installed on it.
 
So, yesterday pop on New World at 0830ish Central, and enter the queue.  Left this running until the queue ran down and I was in the game at 1845ish.  Started the new player experience and ran for 15-20 minutes then Black Screen - All Fans full and PC shut down.  Paused.  Took a deep breath.  Cycled the Power supply.  Rebooted and everything was back to normal.  Started the Precision software, things looked normal.  Tried to get back into New World.  No dice, back in the queue.  Deleted character and went on low population server.
 
Then started watching numbers in icx the only one that was aberrant was Power4.  Everything else was in the 50s to low 60s.  Power4 shot to 74.  Started playing and played for a short while.  Black Screen - All Fans full and PC shut down.  Panicked a little.
Rebooted.  All normal.
 
So, decided this time to lower the power target to 53% in Precision.  Went back in to New World.  Power4 never got above 54.  Played for 3 and half hours then went to bed.  Noticed no difference in game performance.  I am running the game capped at 60 in 2k and everything on High.  Ran smooth as silk even with the power turned down.
 
This morning fired up Tarkov with all the default settings on the card in Precision and everything ran perfectly, just like it always does.
 
Not really sure what any of this means, hope it is just an outlier on this game causing some odd behavior.

Okay I've had the issue of barely being able to play and with your recommendation, I've been able to play longer than 5min. I'll update if anything happens.

Edit 1: So I use X1 and brought down power to 60 and I don't have a impact on performance and able to have it booted longer than 1-2min. Been logged on for almost a hour, no issues so far.
Edit 2: Finally reached town and within 5min, black screen/100% fan usage. At least I got to play a little, but the result is still the same. Damn shame

mixelplx

AnTse
Howdy!
 
Wanted to share my experience with my 2nd 3090 FTW3 which was up to shenanigans last night also.  My original 3090 lasted 3 days after initial install.  Was in the first wave of cards shipped.  Was replaced and has been working perfectly in every game since.  Also have a Hydro Kit installed on it.
 
So, yesterday pop on New World at 0830ish Central, and enter the queue.  Left this running until the queue ran down and I was in the game at 1845ish.  Started the new player experience and ran for 15-20 minutes then Black Screen - All Fans full and PC shut down.  Paused.  Took a deep breath.  Cycled the Power supply.  Rebooted and everything was back to normal.  Started the Precision software, things looked normal.  Tried to get back into New World.  No dice, back in the queue.  Deleted character and went on low population server.
 
Then started watching numbers in icx the only one that was aberrant was Power4.  Everything else was in the 50s to low 60s.  Power4 shot to 74.  Started playing and played for a short while.  Black Screen - All Fans full and PC shut down.  Panicked a little.
Rebooted.  All normal.
 
So, decided this time to lower the power target to 53% in Precision.  Went back in to New World.  Power4 never got above 54.  Played for 3 and half hours then went to bed.  Noticed no difference in game performance.  I am running the game capped at 60 in 2k and everything on High.  Ran smooth as silk even with the power turned down.
 
This morning fired up Tarkov with all the default settings on the card in Precision and everything ran perfectly, just like it always does.
 
Not really sure what any of this means, hope it is just an outlier on this game causing some odd behavior.

Okay I've had the issue of barely being able to play and with your recommendation, I've been able to play longer than 5min. I'll update if anything happens.

Edit 1: So I use X1 and brought down power to 60 and I don't have a impact on performance and able to have it booted longer than 1-2min. Been logged on for almost a hour, no issues so far.
Edit 2: Finally reached town and within 5min, black screen/100% fan usage. At least I got to play a little, but the result is still the same. Damn shame

Thought I would uplate my experience this evening. Set power to 53%. Played for 6 hours. Got sleepy. Went to bed. Power4 never got above 62. Game operated fine. Even processing everything during a rift fight with 30+ players involved. 

i got through a total of 72 minutes of New World and had 4 crashes (black screen/fans 100%)  this is my second card, first one was RMA'd last December and i haven't had a problem until now.   I thought it was dead for a moment but it was just some display port shenanigans. Card seems fine, but im not going to push my luck on this.

ExxtraThiccc
i got through a total of 72 minutes of New World and had 4 crashes (black screen/fans 100%)  this is my second card, first one was RMA'd last December and i haven't had a problem until now.   I thought it was dead for a moment but it was just some display port shenanigans. Card seems fine, but im not going to push my luck on this.

In some forums it is said that the cards from 2021 onwards the problem is solved ... so you say that is not true, right?
I'm ..... looking to order a new one ... since mine is from 2020 and how they talk about defective batches with bad welds ......
But if with those of 2021 there are also people with problems in the new world, I already have everything clearer ...

kevinc313

DESCONOCIDOPERDIDO
 
Cheers ! Well, if it seems that new world is giving many problems ... did you try it? and if so ... did you have a problem?
by the way I've been reading the new world steam forums since yesterday ...
and there is always some black screen message and pc restart ....
all this seems to be going to bring a tail!

Part of it is that many "gamers" just have really dodgy, unproven setups in general and they just haven't stressed them that hard playing at 1440P with some CPU bottlenecking.  Poor cooling, stupid undervolts, no OSD or datalogging, no stress testing, poor PSU, cable extensions, etc.
 
However it's clear at this point that the game can produce loads that can put an otherwise healthy card into protect.

 
what i don't get why just this game causing it?  It not really a high end game unlike other games that really push the card?  Also Pcgamer is now reporting it happening to other manufacturers is it a flaw from Nvidia?

Is this the same with the 3080ti?

I have been playing it, and yeah the card gets really hot don't get me wrong... but I play on 1440p max settings and I haven't gotten a crash or anything. Granted it may be a bottleneck keeping my card from dying? I only have an I7 8700k... I don't know if this CPU bottlenecks the card, but either way... I haven't had an issue... Just want to know if it's affecting the ti series cards as well.

kongfra
 
what i don't get why just this game causing it?

Because Amazon hired some clowns to develop it and they are doing something insanely wrong with the game engine that is not easy to fix.
 
I'm far from an expert on MMO's, but this reminds me of ARK.  Even 6 years later, it's a bear to run and took years to optimize.

kongfra

Also Pcgamer is now reporting it happening to other manufacturers is it a flaw from Nvidia?

PC Gamer is just late to the party. Other manufacturer's cards have had issues since the beginning. EVGA has had more cards go bad than anyone else, so they've been getting the most attention.

https://www.mmorpg.com/news/it-looks-like-new-world-is-reportedly-causing-gpu-issues-again-2000123220
 
 
Lets be honest, most of the problems comes from 3090 FTW3 cards

Played the 2nd New World Beta (the one a couple weeks ago) and within minutes my PC lost all power and crashed. I thought it was the PSU. That checked out fine (brand new EVGA 1000W Gold) then I thought "it had to be the mobo or cpu"....replaced those. (Z270 + i7 7700k to a Z590 i7 11700K) and turned out it was my newest and most expensive hardware, the EVGA RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra Gaming card the whole time. I thought to myself the whole time "theres no way the GPU failed." lol now after a hefty CPU/Mobo upgrade and a cross ship RMA from EVGA (that set me back a whopping almost $1800 collateral deposit) im finally up and running again. I won't go anywhere near New World anymore. Sucks too because a bunch of friends are playing it with no issues. 

kongfra
 
what i don't get why just this game causing it?  It not really a high end game unlike other games that really push the card?  Also Pcgamer is now reporting it happening to other manufacturers is it a flaw from Nvidia?

Its not just New World causing that issue.  When the EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 was released, many customers also had similar issues with many other DX11 games.  New World is just the latest game to cause the issue.  When the issue happened not long ago with the game causing EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 cards to die, it also happened with a few specific other manufacturer's cards that had issues with the power delivery system or fan controllers.

ShadowNinja714
 
Their response:
"Yes, you will receive a new revision of the card that should not have this issue. This only affected earlier batches of the card and Amazon has assured us this should not happen further.
One thing I do recommend is to set a frame cap to match the monitor refresh rate. As it is a MMO it should not necessarily need more than the base refresh rate. Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns."

Why is Amazon assuring the manufacturers that their game won't break the graphics cards?  Shouldn't it be the other way around?