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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/04 11:15:22 (permalink)
This game out today.  Maybe this is a good sign?



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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/04 11:55:27 (permalink)
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This game out today.  Maybe this is a good sign?






How much of a delay was that?
 
Beta's are good.  Too many games coming out that are hot garbage.  Last beta I was in, myself and a few others on their forums gave pretty negative feedback.  Release was pushed back a couple months.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/04 13:12:53 (permalink)
still no real news from EVGA yet.... id like to know if there is an issue


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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/04 14:55:15 (permalink)
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How much of a delay was that?
 

 
Roughly a month.  It was previously scheduled for August 31.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/04 15:08:00 (permalink)
I guess I am the last of the 3090 ftw 3 ultra RMAs.  I just mailed my out today. The card died about a week ago while playing new world and I didn't think it was the gpu that died when my PC crashed and wouldn't start up. I initially thought it was my motherboard or PSU, but after swapping out my dark hero and 5950x with my old 9900k and maximus xi code and buying a second Seasonic 1000w titanium (so I can swap my old one out), I finally was able to power the PC on with the integrated graphics of the 9900k. I never knew I would miss the option of having integrated GPUs until this happened (a gripe I have now with AMD cpus). 
 
My FTW3 was probably a first edition (purchased in october with red clown lips), and from reading this forum seems like all these old ones had some faulty issues built in. Hopefully my replacement will no longer have these hardware issues.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/04 17:15:58 (permalink)
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My FTW3 was probably a first edition (purchased in october with red clown lips), and from reading this forum seems like all these old ones had some faulty issues built in. Hopefully my replacement will no longer have these hardware issues.



I got my FTW3 in November and it's a rev 0.1 card with the red lips.  Have played a lot of games since then and never had a single problem including the New World beta for an hour or two each day while it was still going on.  Not sure if I just got lucky but I really would love to hear something "official" from EVGA after they've had enough time to investigate the cards that have been returned.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/05 11:35:11 (permalink)
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still no real news from EVGA yet.... id like to know if there is an issue


Agreed. Friend of mine got me New World, didn't play the Beta at all as I had heard about the various cards dying.
Would feel better knowing the issue before jumping in when the game is released.

12G-P5-3967-KR     6/3/2021 7:57:05 AM PT
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/05 11:36:34 (permalink)
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/06 14:10:49 (permalink)
I purchased a EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming that is currently being replaced under warranty due to a failure while playing New World during beta testing. It was in a system with quality components including a 1000w Seasonic Platinum power supply. I did not use a custom BIOS or otherwise abuse the card. 
 
I would like to play New World and similar games in the future with the replacement card and not have this sort of failure recur.
 
Does EVGA have recommendations on how to prevent this from happening in the future?
 
 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/06 14:23:01 (permalink)
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Does EVGA have recommendations on how to prevent this from happening in the future?
 


So far they've just circled the wagons and have been silent on the matter. Other than a vague, very carefully worded confirmation that dead cards would be replaced under the terms of the warranty, I haven't seen a thing.

In their defense, they've only had the affected cards about a week, and I have no idea what's involved in diagnosing the issue. However, nearly complete radio silence doesn't do anything to reassure owners of these cards that they're not sitting on duds waiting to fail.


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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/06 14:26:45 (permalink)
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I purchased a EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming that is currently being replaced under warranty due to a failure while playing New World during beta testing. It was in a system with quality components including a 1000w Seasonic Platinum power supply. I did not use a custom BIOS or otherwise abuse the card. 
 
I would like to play New World and similar games in the future with the replacement card and not have this sort of failure recur.
 
Does EVGA have recommendations on how to prevent this from happening in the future?
 
 




No official EVGA recommendations.  My "personal opinion" recommendations are to:
 
- Get good cool fresh air flow along the length of the card and into the fans, especially across the back plate, so that temps don't go much over 70C and vram junction temps under 90C (HWiNFO, not X1).  Good fast fan speeds.  I lock GPU fans at like 90% gaming at full power. 
- Don't use a 3090 FTW3 in a small glass case. Use a full ATX case with plenty of mesh and good fans properly set up.
- If you want slow fans, turn down the POWER LIMIT
- Undervolt can still allow full power on a heavy load, see above.  It alone does not lower temps in all situations. Be careful.
- You can generally achieve the same results as an undervolt with a combination of reduced power limit, core OC and frame limiter, but probably safer, more stable and reliable.
- 3 PSU cables. 
- Some Seasonic PSU's have had problems, but the "Prime Ultra" series might be OK.
- Monitor with OSD (on screen display) at all times. Freq, vcore, power, use, and especially core temp and vram junction temp. I like HWiNFO and Riva Tuner for this.
- Keep X1 up to date so you get firmware updates.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/08/06 15:46:20
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/06 14:30:47 (permalink)
Well, they at least are working on an update for the erronious fan-speed issue that some websites wanted to blame for the New World related card failures with their "fans trying to hit 200k RPM!?" type article titles that were quite wrong.



 

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/06 16:27:06 (permalink)
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- Some Seasonic PSU's have had problems, but the "Prime Ultra" series might be OK.
 



I have heard of issues with the Focus Plus series. None with the Prime Ultra. The Prime series is usually one of the most highly rated if not outright best rated.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/06 17:56:42 (permalink)
Just a bunch of lies from Jacob about the rpm. I have documented the behavior quite well in my thread about the fan rpm report.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/06 19:54:23 (permalink)
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- Some Seasonic PSU's have had problems, but the "Prime Ultra" series might be OK.
 



I have heard of issues with the Focus Plus series. None with the Prime Ultra. The Prime series is usually one of the most highly rated if not outright best rated.




Same here, but I have a "Prime" non-ultra 1300w that went into protect twice on a 3080 Ti FTW3.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/07 21:19:52 (permalink)
I'm using a Seasonic PRIME PX-850 with my rev 0.1 3090 FTW3 and no issues.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/07 21:34:37 (permalink)
Didnt the game studio say they fixed the issue?
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/07 21:51:13 (permalink)
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I'm using a Seasonic PRIME PX-850 with my rev 0.1 3090 FTW3 and no issues.




Mine was fine on 3080 450w bios, it spent plenty of time at higher power than the 3080 Ti has ever been at.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/07 23:50:26 (permalink)
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Didn't the game studio say they fixed the issue?

They issued a patch that limited frame rates in menu screens. The cards with faulty voltage regulators are still susceptible to failure, however.
 


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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/08 00:58:37 (permalink)
Did someone experience any problem so far with a 3080? I have a 3080 ftw3 and the idea of having a potential expensive brick inside my case freaks me out a bit.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/08 19:10:35 (permalink)
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Did someone experience any problem so far with a 3080? I have a 3080 ftw3 and the idea of having a potential expensive brick inside my case freaks me out a bit.



I saw mention of 3080's in the last couple of weeks, but the vast majority appear to have been the 3090 FTW cards, with a fair number of those being the Rev 0.1 boards. One such was on Tweaktown, if I recall correctly, quoting Jayztwocents, among others.

There was so much going on, with not a little bit of misinformation/misunderstanding in the various threads, that I'm not 100% certain there actually was an issue with the 3080's in this case.


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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/09 10:13:19 (permalink)
It's a shame you can't RMA and get a 3080 replacement instead if you requested it.  Are these games just shorting something out on the 3090 or what??
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/09 11:47:12 (permalink)
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Did someone experience any problem so far with a 3080? I have a 3080 ftw3 and the idea of having a potential expensive brick inside my case freaks me out a bit.



I saw mention of 3080's in the last couple of weeks, but the vast majority appear to have been the 3090 FTW cards, with a fair number of those being the Rev 0.1 boards. One such was on Tweaktown, if I recall correctly, quoting Jayztwocents, among others.

There was so much going on, with not a little bit of misinformation/misunderstanding in the various threads, that I'm not 100% certain there actually was an issue with the 3080's in this case.


Thanks for answering! How do I know if my card is rev 0.1 or 1.0?

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/09 12:06:20 (permalink)
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Thanks for answering! How do I know if my card is rev 0.1 or 1.0?



Look at the bottom of the card by the slot connector, its printed on the PCB.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/09 12:40:15 (permalink)
Did the 3080 get a rev 1.0 update? I know the 3090 has, but I haven't seen any others.

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/09 17:24:55 (permalink)
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First Amazon does not sell anything but scalped cards, now their game is killing cards.  I wish Bezos stayed in space.


Haha ain't that the truth
 
I am trying to get a 3090 and trying to play NW when it released someday. I hope they get the issue fixed!
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/10 08:52:24 (permalink)
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Did the 3080 get a rev 1.0 update? I know the 3090 has, but I haven't seen any others.




yeah, seems like everyone should be putting revision # in their profile for each 30xx card
I will if I ever get one...
 
 

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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/10 16:40:19 (permalink)
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Muspel
Thanks for answering! How do I know if my card is rev 0.1 or 1.0?



Look at the bottom of the card by the slot connector, its printed on the PCB.




From what I remember my first 3090 FTW3 had rev 0.0, although I could be wrong. It was a very early purchase via the notification system.
 
The warranty replacement I received today has 0.1 and red lips. The card itself looks pristine, like a new card. The packaging was generic.
 
We will find out in October (when New World comes out) if it is an improvement.
 
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/11 01:24:54 (permalink)
JayzTwoCents tried everything on youtube to try and kill an EVGA 3090 card, but did not manage to break it.
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Re: EVGA 3090 owners - do NOT play New World game right now as it might kill the card 2021/08/11 02:05:38 (permalink)
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I think it was fixed
JayzTwoCents on youtube tried everything to kill an EVGA 3090 card, but did not manage to break it. 
He gets thousands of dollars worth of evga stuff to review for free... You honestly believe what this guy says? Most enthusiast here dont.
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