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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/03 01:29:48
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That Asus 3090 with a waterblock looks like a down-sku PCB layout...cause that ain't the TUF or STRIX pcb:
And it's missing an inch of PCB real estate off the top edge.
Your link is broken. Also why would they ever sell a worse version of a GPU with a waterblock, when only an enthusiast would buy a waterblock card?
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/03 05:28:44
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So is ASUS actually selling pre-blocked 3090s? I'm trying to avoid having to install it myself this time around if possible.
Yes, but you can count on them costing more than the eVGA equivalent because of the EK Block premium price... and from the looks of it, the Asus 3090 is a 2-8 pin plug card, which means it won't have the power headroom an FTW3 or Strix does, apparently... eVGA's HydroCopper will undoubtedly have a full "FTW3" version with the triple plugs. We'll see if Asus does a Strix model or not of this.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/03 08:40:36
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Somebody new needs to come into the EVGA design team, it feels like theres some old dude behind the scenes trying to guess what the latest "cool" and "gamer" aesthetics looks like. I love EVGA and I always buy EVGA for the performance but the aesthetics is quite outdated. We need something like this:
THIS!+++
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/03 13:29:40
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That Asus 3090 with a waterblock looks like a down-sku PCB layout...cause that ain't the TUF or STRIX pcb:
And it's missing an inch of PCB real estate off the top edge.
Your link is broken. Also why would they ever sell a worse version of a GPU with a waterblock, when only an enthusiast would buy a waterblock card?
They could be trying to squeeze more profit out of the card where the waterblock probably costing them $70-$100 from EK on wholesale.  Here's the TUF:  All of the headers on the back of the card are gone and judging by the huge amount of SMT capacitors and resistors around the voltage controllers it looks like it's an analog voltage controller and not a digital one.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/03 15:56:30
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Also, Gigabyte showed off there new waterforce graphics cards and, they look really clean as well. Nice to see there will be some good options for water cooled cards coming soon.
Both the Gigabyte WaterForce and Asus EKWB cards look to be 2x8 pin PCIe cards. Who would buy those over FTW HCs with 3x8 pin, considering how power limited Ampere is?
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/03 16:16:18
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If you care more about aesthetics than overclocking headroom is my guess.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/03 18:31:39
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Also, Gigabyte showed off there new waterforce graphics cards and, they look really clean as well. Nice to see there will be some good options for water cooled cards coming soon.
Both the Gigabyte WaterForce and Asus EKWB cards look to be 2x8 pin PCIe cards. Who would buy those over FTW HCs with 3x8 pin, considering how power limited Ampere is?
The power limit is software imposed and is unrelated to the number of connectors to deliver it. You can run a 2x8pin card well beyond 500W. I'm planning on buying a TUF, shunting it, waterblocking it, and adding voltage override. 650W let's gooooo.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/03 23:44:03
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I saw mid/late November for availability but I'd like to know any news for the date we can see it on the evga site and add a notify request for this card.
Thank you
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/04 01:44:24
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Agreed, it would be great if we could add the notification in advance for the 3080/90 Hydro and Kingpin, i dont mind the waiting time afterwards. Tato75
I saw mid/late November for availability but I'd like to know any news for the date we can see it on the evga site and add a notify request for this card.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/04 06:44:20
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Also, Gigabyte showed off there new waterforce graphics cards and, they look really clean as well. Nice to see there will be some good options for water cooled cards coming soon.
Both the Gigabyte WaterForce and Asus EKWB cards look to be 2x8 pin PCIe cards. Who would buy those over FTW HCs with 3x8 pin, considering how power limited Ampere is?
The power limit is software imposed and is unrelated to the number of connectors to deliver it. You can run a 2x8pin card well beyond 500W.
I'm planning on buying a TUF, shunting it, waterblocking it, and adding voltage override. 650W let's gooooo.
The power delivery and PCB are still worse on the corresponding 2x8 pin cards, e.g. TUF vs Strix or XC3 vs FTW3. Tricking the software by soldering additional shunt resistors is something you might as well do on the card with better components. You can run a 2x8 pin card beyond 500W but in the same vein you can run a 3x8 pin card beyond 750W.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/04 10:56:39
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Some updates on the HC models as below. Will continue to update as more info is available:
- Full cover block with G 1/4 fittings
- Available in XC3 and FTW3
- Latest availability update = Mid/late November
Am i the only one to not be a big fan of the design, one the reason to do watercooling is design and frankly this one doesn't look good for me, hopefully the red dot is a sticker that can be remove.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/04 13:23:31
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Very interesting the waterblock, but in my case i will go with the kinpgin
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/04 13:53:46
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Can you make a version dor 3080 that has the inlet/outlet on the rear of the card. (Similar to ASUS/EK 3090)
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/05 19:13:51
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As the FTW3 Ultra queue keeps moving, I feel conflicted. This is the card I truly want but it's been so challenging to secure ANY 3090 that I think I would need to pull the trigger on that once I get my email to do so. Any word on when a queue might be available for this card?
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/05 19:16:25
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All we know is mid/late November. They don't usually create a product page for it (and thus a queue) until it's ready to release.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/05 19:20:09
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So instead of the ugly red pig lipstick on the current cards they decided this time to stick it right on the hydro copper...did they not listen? Keep things clean. That is one ugly card and honestly I am having less and less faith in Evga given the current round of cards and varying stability.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/05 23:28:22
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I have a 2080Ti Hybrid but really liked the look of that gen's Hydro Copper. Didn't go custom loop until awhile after and I couldn't justify the cost of selling the Hybrid and getting an XC and waterblock.
Going to see once they're released, but I'll probably end up going with an EK unless the HC kit looks nicer in real life than the renders.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 01:01:21
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Just an FYI, I contacted Corsair to see if they are working on a water block for the FTW3 Ultras. This was their reply: Unfortunately there will be no Hydro X Series GPU water blocks compatible with EVGA RTX 30-Series XC3 or FTW3 graphic cards, however ASUS ROG Strix and MSI Ventus RTX 30-Series graphic cards will be supported and are already in the Custom Cooling Configurator database. I was somewhat surprised, but it seems we can rule them out now.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 09:59:35
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Who'd consider Corsair, if you can put a Watercool on your FTW3? ;)
Watercool announced they will have a Heatkiller V block specifically designed for the FTW3 cards (decision was made after a poll with potential customers), see news with link to compatible GPUs on their website.
Maybe Germany is currently not that popular in the US, but Watercool GPU blocks do rock in my humble opinion. ;)
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 10:30:53
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Who'd consider Corsair, if you can put a Watercool on your FTW3? ;)
Surprisingly, Corsair water cooling components aren't bad at all - their Hydro XR5 radiators are Corsair branded HardwareLabs Black Ice Nemesis GTS rads, their fittings are all Bitspower brass fittings, their D5 pumps are Xylem (same as EK uses), I'm trying to find out who manufactures their CPU/GPU water blocks, but their performance isn't substandard, although EK still have an edge on them there. Just looking at options. I'd prefer the Optimus GPU block, but price is a real barrier on that one. :) Germany make top level gear though, I absolutely love beQuiet! fans too. 
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 10:32:58
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Some updates on the HC models as below. Will continue to update as more info is available:
- Full cover block with G 1/4 fittings
- Available in XC3 and FTW3
- Latest availability update = Mid/late November
Am i the only one to not be a big fan of the design, one the reason to do watercooling is design and frankly this one doesn't look good for me, hopefully the red dot is a sticker that can be remove.
It's an abomination.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 10:38:34
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Keep the plexiglass clear. Move the logos to the brushed aluminum on the top edge.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 10:41:14
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Who'd consider Corsair, if you can put a Watercool on your FTW3? ;)
Surprisingly, Corsair water cooling components aren't bad at all - their Hydro XR5 radiators are Corsair branded HardwareLabs Black Ice Nemesis GTS rads, their fittings are all Bitspower brass fittings, their D5 pumps are Xylem (same as EK uses), I'm trying to find out who manufactures their CPU/GPU water blocks, but their performance isn't substandard, although EK still have an edge on them there. Just looking at options. I'd prefer the Optimus GPU block, but price is a real barrier on that one. :)
Germany make top level gear though, I absolutely love beQuiet! fans too.
Corsair definitely has done well with its Hydro X line and partnered with some reputable companies. Their GPU block is still suspect with the slight chance of springing a leak if the connector block is flexed (this has been well documented) though Jayztwocents showed it does take some force. On the plus side, EK's FTW block should be coming out here in the next week or two. I saw a FB post from them stating "First half of this month".
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 10:43:17
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It's an abomination.
 lol nice. I'm going to reserve judgement until I get to see the finished product.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 10:56:04
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Who'd consider Corsair, if you can put a Watercool on your FTW3? ;)
Surprisingly, Corsair water cooling components aren't bad at all - their Hydro XR5 radiators are Corsair branded HardwareLabs Black Ice Nemesis GTS rads, their fittings are all Bitspower brass fittings, their D5 pumps are Xylem (same as EK uses), I'm trying to find out who manufactures their CPU/GPU water blocks, but their performance isn't substandard, although EK still have an edge on them there. Just looking at options. I'd prefer the Optimus GPU block, but price is a real barrier on that one. :)
Germany make top level gear though, I absolutely love beQuiet! fans too.
Corsair definitely has done well with its Hydro X line and partnered with some reputable companies. Their GPU block is still suspect with the slight chance of springing a leak if the connector block is flexed (this has been well documented) though Jayztwocents showed it does take some force.
On the plus side, EK's FTW block should be coming out here in the next week or two. I saw a FB post from them stating "First half of this month".
Oh right, yeah I saw that JayZTwoCents video, that was crazy when he flexed it and the water came shooting out, although it appears their latest GPU block now has a 3rd screw in the middle of where the fittings go which should help alleviate that issue. Most likely I'll go EK if there's decent supply. EVGA have repeatedly avoided responding to queries over the availability of stand-alone hydro copper blocks, they have only confirmed the hydro copper with the GPU, the hybrid, and the hybrid kit for mid-late November, but no indication if and when the HC blocks alone will be made available.
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 12:32:15
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply that Corsair's were bad! Who I am I to judge, never owned a Corsair block. =) Just wanted to express my personal preference - ok in maybe a tiny bit provocative way. I like the watercool ones and I will definitely put one of their babies on my 3090 FTW3. ;)
...as I did with my 1080Ti and 2080Ti, still love them. Well, unless the final design of the Hydro Copper changes substantially or at least just comes across weird and if the rumours I read somewhere who's manufacturing them turn out not to be true...
Also, does anybody know if the Hydro Copper's backside is cooled by water as well?
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 13:46:48
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply that Corsair's were bad! Who I am I to judge, never owned a Corsair block. =) Just wanted to express my personal preference - ok in maybe a tiny bit provocative way. I like the watercool ones and I will definitely put one of their babies on my 3090 FTW3. ;)
...as I did with my 1080Ti and 2080Ti, still love them. Well, unless the final design of the Hydro Copper changes substantially or at least just comes across weird and if the rumours I read somewhere who's manufacturing them turn out not to be true...
Also, does anybody know if the Hydro Copper's backside is cooled by water as well?
For Corsair I am sure they will make a good product but I would wait a generation or two before placing a block on an 1800 card just to make sure they got it right and ironed out the kinks...ehemmmm EVGA...but Optimus and EKWB we know we can trust their blocks. I still have an EVGA Ultra 2080ti in my office pc with an ekwb block and the card has had no issues
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 14:43:44
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There won't be any "updates", the Mid-to-Late November thing is what it is, I asked Jacob about a week ago on Twitter & he confirmed that's still the timeline.
I'm watching the product pages like a hawk because I want a Hybrid 3080 FTW3 for sure.
 Too funny!
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 14:48:34
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Re: EVGA 30 Series Hydro Copper Updates
2020/11/06 15:15:41
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