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Nereus

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Pre-ordered.
 
I may cancel my pre-order if the hydrocoppers drop before the EK block gets shipped out, but with Jacob's statement on the delay of the hydrocoppers, I have a feeling that I may end up with this EK block instead.

Murphy's Law being what it is, they'll probably both become available on the same day. :)

You had to say it didn't you, 

  yes. yes I did.
 

 
Tough call really. Ideally I'd go for the K|ngP|n and put an EK block on it, if they made one for it.
 
The EK FTW3 block doesn't list the K|ngP|n model on the compatibility list btw, although that's not surprising ...would've been nice though!
 
 

Preordered my FTW3 Ultra block for my card that will be eventually going through step up.

The Kingpin card has a completely different NVlink connector placement, so it will not be at all compatible with the FTW3 block. Someone would need to send EKWB a KPE card to have a block for it, and it is such a niche market, it doubt it would benefit EKWB to make one, although I am sure they probably will to please their customers.

Nereus
 
Tough call really. Ideally I'd go for the K|ngP|n and put an EK block on it, if they made one for it.
 
The EK FTW3 block doesn't list the K|ngP|n model on the compatibility list btw, although that's not surprising ...would've been nice though!
 
 

I meant between the ftw3 ultra and strix OC. I doubt I will be able to get a second KP, so not banking on it atm, and as others have mentioned, it may never get a dedicated waterblock.

I was going to keep the KP in one setup for single card benches and more extreme experiments for fun and then either the strix or ultra in an sli setup in another.

QueueCumber

Nereus
Tough call really. Ideally I'd go for the K|ngP|n and put an EK block on it, if they made one for it.
 
The EK FTW3 block doesn't list the K|ngP|n model on the compatibility list btw, although that's not surprising ...would've been nice though!

I meant between the ftw3 ultra and strix OC. I doubt I will be able to get a second KP, so not banking on it atm, and as others have mentioned, it may never get a dedicated waterblock.

I was going to keep the KP in one setup for single card benches and more extreme experiments for fun and then either the strix or ultra in an sli setup in another.

Flip a coin. With both cards functioning satisfactorily, EVGA has the better service if something goes wrong, but it would appear ASUS has the better card this time around (generally speaking), at least how things stand at present.
 

Anyone know what time EKWB site crashed? Got my FTW3 block order in at 10:03 am ET, just wondering if i managed to get in before or after everyone else jumped on it. Got the email notification of release at 10:06am ET, just happened to have checked the website at 10am and ordered.

Nereus

koroem
Anyone know what time EKWB site crashed? Got my FTW3 block order in at 10:03 am ET, just wondering if i managed to get in before or after everyone else jumped on it.

My order confirmation email come through a few minutes before 10am ET, and that was probably 10+ minutes after the initial crashes.. I didn't receive the notification email until 10:03am ET... I had the site open already hitting F5 when it started lol.
 
 
 

Got my order confirmation at 0946 ET.  Site crashed right after that.

the_Scarlet_one
No, it wouldn't be embarrassing, because ASUS used different components making it easy for EKWB to use the same constraints they always have.  Just like the MLCC versus SPCaps, ASUS used better suited components and all of the other companies followed the NVidia specifications.

Ah, so the Hydrocopper version is not a properly-engineered specifically water-cooled card, and is instead a botched bolt-on to an existing card.  Like I said.  Copy.

I have little to say about the capacitor height argument. I don't think it is valid excuse, but I won't push it too hard. The capacitors don't take up more than 1 slot in height, there is plenty of room to route liquid around them, and I am sure that there is a single slot solution possible.  It's just a matter of engineering and machining.  I'll leave it at that.

buttabean
Anyone planning to get the heatkiller water block? I think they're going to start shipping the same time as the EKWB. I picked up a tr4 heatkiller all copper on black friday. The thing weighs like 5 pounds lol looks amazing too plus it dropped my temps about 20c compared to the used ekwb that I wasn't aware was improperly designed for threadrippers. So kinda don't want to give ek any money after that fiasco. It's my fault for not doing the due research before hand and relying on branding but still. You would think they would have replaced a botched product instead of giving out a $25 dollar coupon. 

HK doesn't even have an ETA for pre-orders...no way they are shipping in 4 weeks.

the_Scarlet_one

Honest opinion, I would go Strix. I have had bad experiences with ASUS support in the past, but the support that I have had to go with for friends that have ASUS products has significantly improved compared to the past.

I like the capacitors and hardware usage on the strix a little more, personally.

Nereus

Flip a coin. With both cards functioning satisfactorily, EVGA has the better service if something goes wrong, but it would appear ASUS has the better card this time around (generally speaking), at least how things stand at present.
 

 
Thanks!

I love evga support, this is a case where support may not be helpful anyway, since I plan on debouching them pretty severely enough to lose the warranty down the road.

the_Scarlet_one

ty_ger07

the_Scarlet_one
No, it wouldn't be embarrassing, because ASUS used different components making it easy for EKWB to use the same constraints they always have.  Just like the MLCC versus SPCaps, ASUS used better suited components and all of the other companies followed the NVidia specifications.

Ah, so the Hydrocopper version is not a properly-engineered specifically water-cooled card, and is instead a botched bolt-on to an existing card.  Like I said.  Copy.

I have little to say about the capacitor height argument. I don't think it is valid excuse, but I won't push it too hard. The capacitors don't take up more than 1 slot in height, there is plenty of room to route liquid around them, and I am sure that there is a single slot solution possible.  It's just a matter of engineering and machining.  I'll leave it at that.

What? A hydrocopper block is a hydrocopper block designed around a GPU. Always has been. What are you even babbling about? Would you mind being coherent?

Don't mind him, he's being OCD about a few mm's of hardware that you have absolutely no reason to **** about, like guy could have some issues with asymmetrical geometry and has a pet peeve. It's not objective criticism, you have to be mindful that people have disorders and often go on without diagnosis

QueueCumber
As a clinical psych PhD I can say with confidence that everyone fits somewhere on one spectrum or another. Pick your poison...
 
It is disappointing to me when mental illness becomes a means of insulting people... 

I wasn't insulting(I cant tell if you were talking about me), I was just trying to raise awareness, I suffer from mental illness. 

QueueCumber
As a clinical psych PhD I can say with confidence that everyone fits somewhere on one spectrum or another. Pick your poison...
 
It is disappointing to me when mental illness becomes a means of insulting people... 

Really interesting field though CueueCumber, I took a few electives in Psych at university as an adult student (was early 30's). I recall going over I think it was Kohlberg's moral development stages, and myself and the Professor were the only ones who sat at the 5-6(?) end of the spectrum - seriously some of the kids in that class (if you can call them kids at 19-20 years old) had what I would view as a shocking lack of morals, to the point I would consider a few of them close to being sociopaths. I wonder if that's generally the norm with one generation viewing another. Probably. I found it disturbing.
 

QueueCumber

Nereus

QueueCumber
As a clinical psych PhD I can say with confidence that everyone fits somewhere on one spectrum or another. Pick your poison...
 
It is disappointing to me when mental illness becomes a means of insulting people... 

Really interesting field though CueueCumber, I took a few electives in Psych at university as an adult student (was early 30's). I recall going over I think it was Kohlberg's moral development stages, and myself and the Professor were the only ones who sat at the 5-6(?) end of the spectrum - seriously some of the kids in that class (if you can call them kids at 19-20 years old) had what I would view as a shocking lack of morals, to the point I would consider a few of them close to being sociopaths. I wonder if that's generally the norm with one generation viewing another. Probably. I found it disturbing.

Thanks!

When folks dip towards that end of that spectrum, they tend to have differing levels of difficulty perspective taking (among other things) or putting themselves in another person's shoes. They may also have difficulty with insight into their own feeling states as well, at least compared to level 6 where personal conscience is involved. Level 6 connotes that one realizes what it would feel like to have something done to him/her before doing it to others.

The nice thing is people can and do change over time (quite significantly sometimes). Conscience is an awareness based in mentalization, IMHO, and all of life is on the journey towards that same self-realization (at least in my mind).

I haven't read Kohlberg since before my graduate program, so not sure how much of that aligns with his original ideas at this point.

It was undergrad for me. As far as people changing sometimes, I have a relative diagnosed with Asperger's but he doesn't express a lot of the common characteristics of Asperger's, primarily it's just the zero conscience side. Sometimes it seems way too convenient to put a label on an individual which gives them something to blame for their behavior rather than teach them to take responsibility for their own actions, which in my unqualified opinion is much healthier. In his case though, I do think it's sociopathic tendencies rather than Asperger's - there's the saying "someone would steal from their own grandmother", in his case it's literal, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
 
I'm going to attend an online lecture on the PERMA model of scientific happiness later this week. I know nothing about it, but it sounds interesting. They'll probably just tell everyone to smoke some weed and chill. :D   ..joking of course.
 

Den-ko
Do you guys think MP5works backplate cooler worth it? I would have to run the GPU in reverse flow for parallelism for mp5works due to my water loop design, so it might not be worth it? What do you guys think?

Depending on the GPU block design, running it in reverse flow could be a very bad idea. Not worth possibly sacrificing primary GPU cooling performance for secondary GPU cooling performance - kind of cutting off your nose to spite your face.