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2020/12/01 17:25:23 (permalink)
Just got this reply from EK and wanted to share

thank you for contacting us.

The FTW3 water block for the 3080/90 + backplate is in the works and should be available soon. We can say by mid-December.
We cannot guaranty compatibility with the Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra with 100% yet, so, please follow us and check our news for more info regarding this. -
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/01 18:24:52 (permalink)
    Can't wait
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/01 19:15:20 (permalink)
    I get my card tomorrow from Canadacomputers. I really wanna see how far I can push this card on water. If I don't get the issues most people on this forum have.
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/01 19:17:52 (permalink)
    I don't know enough about custom water blocks, but why not use the EVGA branded waterblock?

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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/01 19:41:23 (permalink)
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    We cannot guaranty compatibility with the Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra with 100% yet

    Wait.. whaaaat? Nooooooooooo
     

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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/01 19:47:46 (permalink)
    Dresta
    I don't know enough about custom water blocks, but why not use the EVGA branded waterblock?

    Good luck getting one. If you're very fortunate, you may be able to get a Hydro Copper GPU early next year, but so far there is no indication of when (or if) EVGA will sell the Hydro Copper blocks as a stand alone item - only the Hybrid kits are being made available at this point. Eventually they probably will sell the Hydro Copper blocks separately, but I'm guessing that will be a number of months away from now, and supply will be no doubt be limited despite demand being off the charts.
     

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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/01 19:51:40 (permalink)
    Dresta
    I don't know enough about custom water blocks, but why not use the EVGA branded waterblock?


    EVGA blocks tend to be low production runs and hard to get ahold of, have been low quality the last couple of years and thus haven't performed very well, and the blocks from EVGA this generation aren't even a single-slot blocks for some reason.
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/01 20:03:11 (permalink)
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    Dresta
    I don't know enough about custom water blocks, but why not use the EVGA branded waterblock?


    EVGA blocks tend to be low production runs and hard to get ahold of, have been low quality the last couple of years and thus haven't performed very well, and the blocks from EVGA this generation aren't even a single-slot blocks for some reason.


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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/01 20:47:27 (permalink)
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    Dresta
    I don't know enough about custom water blocks, but why not use the EVGA branded waterblock?


    EVGA blocks tend to be low production runs and hard to get ahold of, have been low quality the last couple of years and thus haven't performed very well, and the blocks from EVGA this generation aren't even a single-slot blocks for some reason.




     
    This certainly looks like a single slot to me...
     


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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/02 03:38:53 (permalink)
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    We cannot guaranty compatibility with the Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra with 100% yet

    Wait.. whaaaat? Nooooooooooo
     




    I think there is a difference in capacitors between the 3080 FTW3 and the 3090 FTW3, but I can say for sure that EKWB has a 3090 FTW3 in their hands so that they can make sure that there is a block for a 3090 FTW3.  
     
    Just looked at the videos and pictures that I can find, and the 3080 has 3 capacitors missing out of the lines, compared to the 3090, so hopefully EKWB's just keeps the spacing for the 3090 and it should work for the 3080 as well.  Fingers Crossed.
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/02 04:03:30 (permalink)
    If ekwb wont have waterblock for 3090 ftw3 ultra, does that mean best one would be hydrocopper from evga? is that coming for it? I'm out of the loop here, I do see them selling it individually but no way to purchase the block.
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/02 04:26:32 (permalink)
    I was gonna get a hydro card but evga has no stock...I wasn't gonna wait. Thats why I got the ftw3. The problem is now I have to remove the old card(1070ti) and somehow rig my pipes to pass to the cpu instead for now while I use the ftw3 without a block.
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/02 07:50:56 (permalink)
     The FTW3 water block for the 3080/90 + backplate is in the works ...
    We cannot guaranty compatibility with the Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra with 100% yet... 




    Is the 3090 FTW3 Ultra actually physically different than the standard FTW3 3090? I was under the impression it was just binning? What's you guys' thoughts on whether having the Ultra really keeps us from being able to use a EKWB? Did Optimus mention anything about this by chance?
     
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    We cannot guaranty compatibility with the Evga 3090 FTW3 Ultra with 100% yet

    Wait.. whaaaat? Nooooooooooo 
     

     
    Yeah this one scared me, really hoping it's not true...
    post edited by Sacrilage - 2020/12/02 07:59:12
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/02 12:51:12 (permalink)
    Den-ko
    If ekwb wont have waterblock for 3090 ftw3 ultra, does that mean best one would be hydrocopper from evga? is that coming for it? I'm out of the loop here, I do see them selling it individually but no way to purchase the block.



    There are other manufacturers who are going to be selling water blocks soon for the FTW3 cards.  Heatkiller is releasing one soon.   The EVGA water blocks seem to be lower quality than the EKWB blocks in recent generations.
     
    EDIT: Heatkiller/Watercool now says Jan. 20021 for the 3080/3090 FTW3 water blocks.
    http://gpu.watercool.de/W..._GPU_Compatibility.pdf
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/03 07:28:00 (permalink)
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    If ekwb wont have waterblock for 3090 ftw3 ultra, does that mean best one would be hydrocopper from evga? is that coming for it? I'm out of the loop here, I do see them selling it individually but no way to purchase the block.



    There are other manufacturers who are going to be selling water blocks soon for the FTW3 cards.  Heatkiller is releasing one soon.   The EVGA water blocks seem to be lower quality than the EKWB blocks in recent generations.
     
    EDIT: Heatkiller/Watercool now says Jan. 20021 for the 3080/3090 FTW3 water blocks.
    http://gpu.watercool.de/W..._GPU_Compatibility.pdf


    dont like how they look :P


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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/03 09:18:16 (permalink)
    I wouldn’t panic too much. I just looked at the 3090 FTW3 vs FTW3 pcb and they are physically identical as far as I can tell. I believe the Ek blocks with be compatible with ultra cards as well.
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/03 11:19:12 (permalink)
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    I wouldn’t panic too much. I just looked at the 3090 FTW3 vs FTW3 pcb and they are physically identical as far as I can tell. I believe the Ek blocks with be compatible with ultra cards as well.



    I was watching videos and couldn't see any difference either (which makes logical sense), so was surprised that an EK rep (who ideally would know these things) was saying an FTW3 block may not work with the Ultra. Maybe just didn't check before speaking?
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 10:08:16 (permalink)
    Does anyone have the link for email notification for the EKWB ftw block?
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 10:10:59 (permalink)
    I doubt they have that.
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 11:54:12 (permalink)
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    Does anyone have the link for email notification for the EKWB ftw block?


    Scroll down this page.

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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 11:59:49 (permalink)
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    I don't know enough about custom water blocks, but why not use the EVGA branded waterblock?


    EVGA blocks tend to be low production runs and hard to get ahold of, have been low quality the last couple of years and thus haven't performed very well, and the blocks from EVGA this generation aren't even a single-slot blocks for some reason.




     
    This certainly looks like a single slot to me...
     



    It isn't.  You need to get your eyes checked.  I think EVGA calls it a 1.3-slot card or something like that.  If the card makes it so that a slot below it is no longer usable, it is effectively a card which uses 2 slots.
     
    See the part in red.  That's where the problem is.
     

     
    Imagine if there was a good reason why their vendor couldn't make it a single-slot block.  Priorities, cost, and profits.  Silly.  Like, why can't EVGA have a single person in their leadership who can put their foot down and make a rule about making stupid mistakes like this?
     
    What is up with all of the 1.x-slot and 2.x-slot cards lately?  What a bunch of hogs.  Engineering and leadership is seriously lacking.  These things go through a design process, right?  Why can't they adhere to ATX standards and make a product which doesn't interfere with other ATX products?  At the design stage, this needs to be resolved.  Otherwise, it looks like a botched bolt-on.
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 12:34:30 (permalink)
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    Dresta
    I don't know enough about custom water blocks, but why not use the EVGA branded waterblock?


    EVGA blocks tend to be low production runs and hard to get ahold of, have been low quality the last couple of years and thus haven't performed very well, and the blocks from EVGA this generation aren't even a single-slot blocks for some reason.




     
    This certainly looks like a single slot to me...
     



    It isn't.  You need to get your eyes checked.  I think EVGA calls it a 1.3-slot card or something like that.  If the card makes it so that a slot below it is no longer usable, it is effectively a card which uses 2 slots.
     
    See the part in red.  That's where the problem is.
     

     
    Imagine if there was a good reason why their vendor couldn't make it a single-slot block.  Priorities, cost, and profits.  Silly.  Like, why can't EVGA have a single person in their leadership who can put their foot down and make a rule about making stupid mistakes like this?
     
    What is up with all of the 1.x-slot and 2.x-slot cards lately?  What a bunch of hogs.  Engineering and leadership is seriously lacking.  These things go through a design process, right?  Why can't they adhere to ATX standards and make a product which doesn't interfere with other ATX products?  At the design stage, this needs to be resolved.  Otherwise, it looks like a botched bolt-on.


    You're asking for too much.
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 12:36:35 (permalink)
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    You're asking for too much.

    Ha! Isn't it crazy?  Asking for too much?  Asking for a properly engineered product?  From, EVGA, yes that appears to be asking for too much.
    It's crazy.  Infuriating.
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 13:10:16 (permalink)
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    You're asking for too much.

    Ha! Isn't it crazy?  Asking for too much?  Asking for a properly engineered product?  From, EVGA, yes that appears to be asking for too much.
    It's crazy.  Infuriating.


    Can you show me a water cooled card including backplate where the profile of the card looks like that one on the right? I don't think one exists, and not only that, I don't think it's even physically possible to engineer one with a side profile no bigger than that, but heck if you know of one please post a link!
     

     

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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 13:15:09 (permalink)
     
    FYI, EKWB posted earlier today regarding blocks for the EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080 and 3090 cards: "block should be launching early next week and be compatible with both models"
     

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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 13:28:56 (permalink)
    I wouldn't mind checking one out. If Optimus were not getting ready to start shipping out I would be tempted to cancel my preorder. I wish EK would go ahead and ship out the QuantumX Delta Tec coolers
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 13:31:04 (permalink)
    Nereus
     
    FYI, EKWB posted earlier today regarding blocks for the EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080 and 3090 cards: "block should be launching early next week and be compatible with both models"
     


    Got a link?


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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 13:53:02 (permalink)
    Nereus
     
    FYI, EKWB posted earlier today regarding blocks for the EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080 and 3090 cards: "block should be launching early next week and be compatible with both models"
     


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    Den-ko
     
    You're asking for too much.

    Ha! Isn't it crazy?  Asking for too much?  Asking for a properly engineered product?  From, EVGA, yes that appears to be asking for too much.
    It's crazy.  Infuriating.


    Can you show me a water cooled card including backplate where the profile of the card looks like that one on the right? I don't think one exists, and not only that, I don't think it's even physically possible to engineer one with a side profile no bigger than that, but heck if you know of one please post a link!
     

     


    1) The backplate does not typically interfere with the card above it.  A card with a backplate can still be a single-slot or dual-slot card.  We have had single-slot and dual-slot cards with backplates for more than a decade.
    2) A backplate usually is optional. Not all cards have backplates.  And owners can decide to remove backplates from most cards for any reason.  A waterblock, on the other hand, can't have the top removed and still be functional.
    3) The part circled in red is the part which is the problem.  Why are you deflecting your attention to the backplate?
     
    Anyway...
     
    Can I think about a single-slot water cooled card?  Yes.  Many, many, many, many.  I have owned... 3?  Something like that.
     
    I mean, I don't even know where to start.  I suggest Google, I guess.  There are too many.
     
    Here is a Google image search:

     
    Here is an ASUS single-slot watercooled RTX 3080:
    ASUS EKWB GeForce RTX 30 Liquid Cooled Graphics Cards Unveiled (wccftech.com)
     
    post edited by ty_ger07 - 2020/12/06 14:02:32
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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 15:07:03 (permalink)
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    FYI, EKWB posted earlier today regarding blocks for the EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080 and 3090 cards: "block should be launching early next week and be compatible with both models"

    Got a link?

    It's FaceBook in their comments. Try this:
    https://www.facebook.com/EKWaterBlocks/posts/3529019837152022
     

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    Re: EKWB blocks for FTW3 2020/12/06 15:39:17 (permalink)
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    Nereus
    FYI, EKWB posted earlier today regarding blocks for the EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3080 and 3090 cards: "block should be launching early next week and be compatible with both models"

    Nereus
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    You're asking for too much.

    Ha! Isn't it crazy?  Asking for too much?  Asking for a properly engineered product?  From, EVGA, yes that appears to be asking for too much.
    It's crazy.  Infuriating.

    Can you show me a water cooled card including backplate where the profile of the card looks like that one on the right? I don't think one exists, and not only that, I don't think it's even physically possible to engineer one with a side profile no bigger than that, but heck if you know of one please post a link!
     

     


    1) The backplate does not typically interfere with the card above it.  A card with a backplate can still be a single-slot or dual-slot card.  We have had single-slot and dual-slot cards with backplates for more than a decade.
    2) A backplate usually is optional. Not all cards have backplates.  And owners can decide to remove backplates from most cards for any reason.  A waterblock, on the other hand, can't have the top removed and still be functional.
    3) The part circled in red is the part which is the problem.  Why are you deflecting your attention to the backplate?
     
    Anyway...
     
    Can I think about a single-slot water cooled card?  Yes.  Many, many, many, many.  I have owned... 3?  Something like that.
     
    I mean, I don't even know where to start.  I suggest Google, I guess.  There are too many.
     
    Here is a Google image search:

     
    Here is an ASUS single-slot watercooled RTX 3080:
    ASUS EKWB GeForce RTX 30 Liquid Cooled Graphics Cards Unveiled (wccftech.com)
     


    Your story has changed a little now as to how it really would look, which is not what you posted up before - which is why I said I'd love to see a water cooled card today that would fit the profile you posted originally. All of these top end cards include back plates, but you're now saying that doesn't count either. I see. :D
     
    Those ASUS images on wccftech.com do not show the card end on, so I don't know why you're posting that link as an example, because there is nothing there that supports it. 
     
    Here's the lowest profile I can find, it's a slightly 'extended' single slot - basically they made the end a little wider than normal and added that lip over the block, but still call it a single slot (which it is), but impressive all the same, although the back plate is not pictured of course. Also note that you can just see where the fittings would go, which certainly make it wider than your pictured single slot, but yeah, this is about as good as it gets.. I have to wonder how restrictive it is on the water flow though.
     
    I don't really care the slightest about the question here lol, it was just the manner in which you responded to someone else's post that made me want to call out your claim. The concept of civility seems to be increasingly rare these days, and I'm certainly not perfect, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  ..have a nice day :D
     

     
     
     
    post edited by Nereus - 2020/12/06 15:42:27

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