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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/07 07:51:29
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Good thing that Most of our Hospitals are still running Windows XP.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/07 07:57:53
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I will be looking at switching what I can to Linux here soon.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/07 08:20:27
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I would do the same but we (I) have less control over the Graphics Cards Fans and Overclocking that is.
For me it is also a real big pain in the but to have to sudo to edit any text file or even run ls in some folders.
Just not a big fan of Linux is all.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/07 08:54:09
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I guess my biggest concern is I am about to start a 2 week work trip, and if windows decides to update while I am gone.
I will have no way of resetting my systems if they hang up, I think I may have to engineer a solution for the future using
a Raspberry PI, a network camera and switches I can control from the PI to be able to see whats happening and reset/boot
remotely.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/07 11:45:06
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I would think that you can Disable Windows Update Service and maybe Block the IP and or Host Name for Windows Update in your Firewall.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/07 12:11:52
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I had an issue with random reboots before I figured it out to be too light a gauge wire on the PSU
It was 18 and needed to be 14 and it cause overheating and reboots.
What I did was remove the password, when it reboots it starts back up and takes off where it left off.
It is strictly a cruncher behind a firewall.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/07 12:21:30
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Not a Bad Idea Their Bill 
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/09 14:16:03
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Just wanted to drop in before I crashout here.
I was going through some thoughts for Formula Boinc but do not want them on the open forum.
Is there any news on the private section as it would be perfect timing so we could get a strategy in place for the rest of the years projects and Sprints.
Plus some recruiting so we can make this AWESOME Team, even Better and Stronger.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/09 14:20:27
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I have a Thought about this as Well....
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/09 19:18:21
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Looks like my old 8350 decided it doesn't want to crunch while I am out of town as it is locked up or powered down but nothing I can fix till the 19th. Thankfully it was not doing anything to critical.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/09 19:42:42
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That's OK, It is Better Safe Then Sorry.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/15 21:34:45
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I have Found that Removing the SLI Bridge Gives Better Single GPU Performance on Each GPU.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/15 22:24:22
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When doing what Bill, folding, crunching or both?
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/16 08:56:43
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bcavnaugh
I have Found that Removing the SLI Bridge Gives Better Single GPU Performance on Each GPU.
Never run sli here, but is great to know, Thank bcavnaugh.. 
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/16 09:01:23
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Guy's, I have this private forum section on the brain again. PG is here and other Team's are watching us.
A couple of us have already voiced that they have suggestions, but PM's are not the best way to communicate the dynamic changing of projects quickly etc.
If there is no solution here, then we need to look at setting up our own.
So I think we need to work out what is needed, costs if needed, name, and who can join.
I was thinking of starting a new thread so we can get the spotlight back on this.
What do you think??
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/16 09:21:24
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I've never gotten an Official outcome from those that make these things happen - so "No answer" seems to be "the answer" - (sigh) Only suggestion at this time --> Make some Noise: https://www.evga.com/support/suggestions.asp Make your Own area in Discord; I know for a fact you can have a Private area that you would have to Add members to  https://discordapp.com/"All-in-one voice and text chat for gamers that's free, secure, and works on both your desktop and phone. Stop paying for TeamSpeak servers and hassling with Skype. Simplify your life." https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2538873EVGATech_ChristianB
Join in on the conversation in the EVGA discord here: http://discord.gg/TEAMEVGA
We got a new fancy URL!
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/16 09:33:23
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Cool GTX
I've never gotten an Official outcome from those that make these things happen - so "No answer" seems to be "the answer" - (sigh)
Only suggestion at this time --> Make some Noise: https://www.evga.com/support/suggestions.asp
Make your Own area in Discord; I know for a fact you can have a Private area that you would have to Add members to
https://discordapp.com/
"All-in-one voice and text chat for gamers that's free, secure, and works on both your desktop and phone. Stop paying for TeamSpeak servers and hassling with Skype. Simplify your life."
https://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2538873
EVGATech_ChristianB
Join in on the conversation in the EVGA discord here: http://discord.gg/TEAMEVGA
We got a new fancy URL!
Appreciate your effort. I just registered, so a trial will happen now, I will send some PM's out to others and we can see if this will work for us. Thanks for the suggestion CoolGTX
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/16 09:43:38
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Discord gets my vote...I already use it for other similar group forum stuff.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/17 15:13:36
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Found another use for my crunching rigs - we were ambushed the other day by a stray & really pregnant cat that my kiddos convinced us to keep (since it's <30deg in Houston right now). Have another cat so couldn't bring her inside, so set her up in garage. She had the kittens today, and have my rigs running full blast to keep the garage nice and balmy for her and the kittens - Even more legitimacy for burning through all that electricity:)
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/17 15:50:01
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/17 16:09:28
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/17 17:03:52
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When doing what Bill, folding, crunching or both?
Both, I was testing as why my second card was showing 0% usage and my first card was showing 68% and both cards running @2126MHz. I pulled off my SLI (HP) Bridge and the second card started showing 60%. I did this testing a Folding WU and Collatz with Einstein showing the biggest difference. I no longer have any rig with 3 or more GPU's so I cannot do anymore testing. Maybe it is all in my Head 
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/17 17:56:44
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When doing what Bill, folding, crunching or both?
Both, I was testing as why my second card was showing 0% usage and my first card was showing 68% and both cards running @2126MHz.
I pulled off my SLI (HP) Bridge and the second card started showing 60%.
I did this testing a Folding WU and Collatz with Einstein showing the biggest difference.
I no longer have any rig with 3 or more GPU's so I cannot do anymore testing.
Maybe it is all in my Head
It's not in your head. Single GPU non-SLI performance is superior on a per GPU base for computational work, especially when using DP. The SLI just tries to separate the loads, one gpu does all the graphics processing, the other does all the physics processing etc etc so you have a 10-20% boost in efficiency of gpu usage. This of course means computation suffers as that isn't the target of SLI. My gaming is system is the only one that I keep the SLI bridge on. The others i've left them to run independent. I've never actually tested it like you have, but just used what i know from how SLI scaling should work and why data centers don't bother with it.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/17 18:20:58
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yatz10
Found another use for my crunching rigs - we were ambushed the other day by a stray & really pregnant cat that my kiddos convinced us to keep (since it's <30deg in Houston right now). Have another cat so couldn't bring her inside, so set her up in garage. She had the kittens today, and have my rigs running full blast to keep the garage nice and balmy for her and the kittens - Even more legitimacy for burning through all that electricity:)
I love this story and cats. Young little CryptoKitties born IRL. Probably worth at least 80k each! I wish I had a garage or really cold area in my house for my rigs.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/17 20:12:32
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When doing what Bill, folding, crunching or both?
Both, I was testing as why my second card was showing 0% usage and my first card was showing 68% and both cards running @2126MHz.
I pulled off my SLI (HP) Bridge and the second card started showing 60%.
I did this testing a Folding WU and Collatz with Einstein showing the biggest difference.
I no longer have any rig with 3 or more GPU's so I cannot do anymore testing.
Maybe it is all in my Head
It's not in your head. Single GPU non-SLI performance is superior on a per GPU base for computational work, especially when using DP. The SLI just tries to separate the loads, one gpu does all the graphics processing, the other does all the physics processing etc etc so you have a 10-20% boost in efficiency of gpu usage. This of course means computation suffers as that isn't the target of SLI. My gaming is system is the only one that I keep the SLI bridge on. The others i've left them to run independent. I've never actually tested it like you have, but just used what i know from how SLI scaling should work and why data centers don't bother with it.
I do wish I had removed them a few years back. It is simple to remove once you are done Benchmarking as so on.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/18 00:57:46
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I picked up an AsRock z370 Killer SLI/AC MB and an Intel i5-8600k, hexcore no HT, Corsair DDR3 3000 16gb
Just got done installing win10 pro did a few updates, 1607 is the OS ver I believe.
4400 @ 1.216v cores are 55-60c Going to let it run there for a while, hope to get close to 5ghz
I have a better cooler on the way. But so far so good. I did not patch the bios yet. And I will install the newest win10 tomorrow.
Doing PG PPS-MEGA tasks in 9min 45sec give or take. WooHoo BOOYAH
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/18 05:01:55
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I picked up an AsRock z370 Killer SLI/AC MB and an Intel i5-8600k, hexcore no HT, Corsair DDR3 3000 16gb
Just got done installing win10 pro did a few updates, 1607 is the OS ver I believe.
4400 @ 1.216v cores are 55-60c Going to let it run there for a while, hope to get close to 5ghz
I have a better cooler on the way. But so far so good. I did not patch the bios yet. And I will install the newest win10 tomorrow.
Doing PG PPS-MEGA tasks in 9min 45sec give or take. WooHoo BOOYAH
Nice Bill. That is a great time for completion.. So a question, what is better, More cores or speed? example, your 8700K has 6 cores @3.7Ghz against say a 7700K has 4 cores @4.2Ghz
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/18 20:03:43
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bill1024
I picked up an AsRock z370 Killer SLI/AC MB and an Intel i5-8600k, hexcore no HT, Corsair DDR3 3000 16gb
Just got done installing win10 pro did a few updates, 1607 is the OS ver I believe.
4400 @ 1.216v cores are 55-60c Going to let it run there for a while, hope to get close to 5ghz
I have a better cooler on the way. But so far so good. I did not patch the bios yet. And I will install the newest win10 tomorrow.
Doing PG PPS-MEGA tasks in 9min 45sec give or take. WooHoo BOOYAH
Nice Bill. That is a great time for completion..
So a question, what is better, More cores or speed?
example, your 8700K has 6 cores @3.7Ghz against say a 7700K has 4 cores @4.2Ghz
That is a tough question, it really depends on what project you are working on. Also what CPU instructions the project uses. When running these Mega tasks and tweaking memory, just going from 2166 (if I remember the # right) to 3000 made a big difference. SOB LLR tasks running MT x5660 westmere (i7-970) @4ghz 6core HT off 121-145,000 seconds i5-4690k Haswell @ 4.2 4core no HT 69-89,000 seconds i7-3930k Sandybridge @ 4.1 HT on 5core/12 threads 51-74,000 seconds Duel e5-2670 Sandy bridge @ 3ghz 2 tasks 8core/16threads ea. 59-71,000 Running WCG I would say the more cores the better, badges are by the hour, but WCG does not use special CPU instructions (AVX,AVX2...). So AMD or Intel, run a lot of cores and the points are there as are the badges. EDIT: Here is a review of the i5-8600 vs. a 7600k https://www.hardocp.com/a...s_7600k_at_5ghz_review
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/18 21:09:55
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I wonder how much of a gain from 2400 to 3200 will be?
I will give this a Go in the AM, Thanks.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2018/01/18 22:54:19
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I noticed when I was not using the computer the time for a pps-MEGA prime was just over 9 min. 6core MT A x5560 quadcore @3ghz took a hour 10min. on the MEGA tasks. Been busy getting other systems broken down and boxed, shipping out my daughters x58 FTW3 Setting up my Haswell i5-4690k for my daughter. Here is a review of the i5-8600k vs the 7600k https://www.hardocp.com/a...s_7600k_at_5ghz_review EDIT: I posted the new ram as DDR3 3000. New systems use DDR4 not DDR3. And the priced are up for some reason. It was high when first out, went down now back up. Go figure.
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