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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/19 12:32:39
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bcavnaugh I would say no to the T3500 Intel® AES New Instructions > No I have a T3400 with Windows XP running my Weather Station and that is about all it can do now.
bcav, Thanks that is good to know.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/19 13:12:27
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That Dell T3500 probably has the Intel Xeon W3530 / 2.8 GHz as that was one of the listed CPU options for it, with a bit of digging. For about twice as much money, you could get a refurbished Quantum Windmill system with 4 E5-2650 (6 core 2 Ghz, and as I recall one or two generations older than the W35xx series). This would probably deliver 4 TIMES the crunching power on many or most CPU-targeted crunching projects. Depends on what you want to crunch though - some projects love GPU crunching (Moo Wrapper, MilkyWay, Folding as examples) others are CPU specific so far (Yoyo, VGTU as examples).
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/19 13:31:51
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Right now just kind of exploring whats out there, I will most likely stay away from adding GPUs right now. I have been leaning towards the cpu type stuff like yoyo, and WCG. I do have a 1080ti, and 1060 I can do some GPU tasks with though. I have looked at some used server stuff on ebay, but I really have no clue about server hardware so just trying to learn more. I have built several desktops and upgraded them but never really paid attention to chip features such as the AES new instructions bcav mentioned, it was always yep this hardware should do the trick for me.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/19 13:46:33
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Anyone Remember what BOINC Project required Java be installed?
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/19 14:47:11
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QuintLeo That Dell T3500 probably has the Intel Xeon W3530 / 2.8 GHz as that was one of the listed CPU options for it, with a bit of digging. For about twice as much money, you could get a refurbished Quantum Windmill system with 4 E5-2650 (6 core 2 Ghz, and as I recall one or two generations older than the W35xx series). This would probably deliver 4 TIMES the crunching power on many or most CPU-targeted crunching projects. Depends on what you want to crunch though - some projects love GPU crunching (Moo Wrapper, MilkyWay, Folding as examples) others are CPU specific so far (Yoyo, VGTU as examples).
E5-26xx are only dual processor, E5-46xx are LGA 2011 quad socket. Can get a quad socket 2011 MB for 500$ or so, and four E5-4650 eight core 2.7ghz CPUs for 160$ each and have 32/64 for 1,100 -1,200$
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/19 15:33:43
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bcavnaugh Anyone Remember what BOINC Project required Java be installed?
that would be ddm-project :)
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/19 15:40:37
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/19 17:27:39
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QuintLeo That Dell T3500 probably has the Intel Xeon W3530 / 2.8 GHz as that was one of the listed CPU options for it, with a bit of digging. For about twice as much money, you could get a refurbished Quantum Windmill system with 4 E5-2650 (6 core 2 Ghz, and as I recall one or two generations older than the W35xx series). This would probably deliver 4 TIMES the crunching power on many or most CPU-targeted crunching projects. Depends on what you want to crunch though - some projects love GPU crunching (Moo Wrapper, MilkyWay, Folding as examples) others are CPU specific so far (Yoyo, VGTU as examples).
E5-26xx are only dual processor, E5-46xx are LGA 2011 quad socket. Can get a quad socket 2011 MB for 500$ or so, and four E5-4650 eight core 2.7ghz CPUs for 160$ each and have 32/64 for 1,100 -1,200$
Bill thanks for that information.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/19 20:09:46
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Might be about time to retire my FX-8350 will have to see how long it keeps chugging.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 10:04:26
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And overnight the 8350 started locking up and is out of the game. Time to figure out what to replace it with on the cheap. Any suggestions on a board and CPU that can use the existing DDR3 Ram for 300 or so.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 12:42:30
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polarbeardj And overnight the 8350 started locking up and is out of the game. Time to figure out what to replace it with on the cheap. Any suggestions on a board and CPU that can use the existing DDR3 Ram for 300 or so.
Is it the CPU or mother board that is the problem?? Agree bcavnaugh, Bummer....
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 13:08:53
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polarbeardj And overnight the 8350 started locking up and is out of the game. Time to figure out what to replace it with on the cheap. Any suggestions on a board and CPU that can use the existing DDR3 Ram for 300 or so.
Here's 8 threads combo for under $200 but you need to figure out what you want to do with it.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 13:57:05
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Honestly if you're going to do BOINC you want an Intel Sandy bridge or newer. AVX and the new instructions make a big difference and more and more projects are using the new instructions. AMDs version of AVX is not nearly as good as Intel's. I haven't ween anyone who is thrilled with the newest AMD for BOINC. I think one project they do better than Intel (Bill ?) And the price of a new CPU Intel or AMD, you can score a CPU, MB and maybe some ram with it, in the used market.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 13:59:19
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bill1024 Honestly if you're going to do BOINC you want an Intel Sandy bridge or newer. AVX and the new instructions make a big difference and more and more projects are using the new instructions. AMDs version of AVX is not nearly as good as Intel's. I haven't ween anyone who is thrilled with the newest AMD for BOINC. I think one project they do better than Intel (Bill ?) And the price of a new CPU Intel or AMD, you can score a CPU, MB and maybe some ram with it, in the used market.
100% Agree.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 14:07:24
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polarbeardj And overnight the 8350 started locking up and is out of the game. Time to figure out what to replace it with on the cheap. Any suggestions on a board and CPU that can use the existing DDR3 Ram for 300 or so.
Is it the CPU or mother board that is the problem?? Agree bcavnaugh, Bummer....
Not sure which is the problem, I swapped around some ram and reset the bios to default and retweaked it a little but no overclocking to see if that helps. So its running again now waiting to see if it will lock up. yodap
polarbeardj And overnight the 8350 started locking up and is out of the game. Time to figure out what to replace it with on the cheap. Any suggestions on a board and CPU that can use the existing DDR3 Ram for 300 or so.
Here's 8 threads combo for under $200 but you need to figure out what you want to do with it.
I most likely will get an intel to try it out as I have stuck to AMD in my desktop builds, and only had intel in laptops. Was looking at the 7600k as the price doesnt seem to bad.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 15:10:14
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The i5-8400 looks kind of appealing to me and pricing is wallet freindly. Since I will most likely be waiting till the 1st of december (getting busy with work and travel). I can put up with having to buy some new ram also instead of being to impulsive with my shopping. Thoughts on the i5-8400?
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 15:16:44
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Link to CPU It is a 6 Core No HT CPU. SSE4.1/4.2, AVX2 Max # of PCI Express Lanes 16
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 15:58:44
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You can consider this, need ram. I have seen 8 sticks of 4gb (32gb) Samsung EEC-R 1333, for 30-40$ on ebay I did pick op a set for 25$ Server ram is cheap on ebay. Goes good with this , uses a regular EVGA 650G or better PSU There are plenty of cases out these that will work with this. http://natex.us/intel-s26...rd-dual-e5-2670-sr0kx/ Can use windows 7 pro or win10 pro, or Linux Can upgrade to 26xxV2 Ivybridge 10/12 core CPUs in the future
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 16:33:40
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 17:37:56
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bill1024 You can consider this, need ram. I have seen 8 sticks of 4gb (32gb) Samsung EEC-R 1333, for 30-40$ on ebay I did pick op a set for 25$ Server ram is cheap on ebay. Goes good with this , uses a regular EVGA 650G or better PSU There are plenty of cases out these that will work with this. http://natex.us/intel-s26...rd-dual-e5-2670-sr0kx/ Can use windows 7 pro or win10 pro, or Linux Can upgrade to 26xxV2 Ivybridge 10/12 core CPUs in the future
This is definitely something I would like to do never messed with a dual socket.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 17:55:59
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I did see a couple good deals on another forum the other day. I will dig around and see if I can find them again. If I did not already have too many systems I would of jumped on it. Dual systems are easy, quad socket you have to use windows server OS or linux Win 7 - 10 pro/home only sees 2 CPUs. There are a few here who could walk you through setup. I have two of those I linked to and I know a couple others here bought one or two. Just have to make sure everything in BIOS is set to performance, not energy savings. Several of us run naked boards, meaning no cases, just a MB on a piece of wood . I use one inch blocks under them to let air circulate under there to help with heat.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/20 18:00:50
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The i7-3930k 4930k (E5-1650 1650v2 xeons) hexcores overclock very well. I bought the xeons as low as 75$ server pulls. They are very good at BOINC and have 40 PCIE lanes for multiple GPU set ups.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/21 04:26:17
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bill1024 I did see a couple good deals on another forum the other day. I will dig around and see if I can find them again. If I did not already have too many systems I would of jumped on it. Dual systems are easy, quad socket you have to use windows server OS or linux Win 7 - 10 pro/home only sees 2 CPUs. There are a few here who could walk you through setup. I have two of those I linked to and I know a couple others here bought one or two. Just have to make sure everything in BIOS is set to performance, not energy savings. Several of us run naked boards, meaning no cases, just a MB on a piece of wood . I use one inch blocks under them to let air circulate under there to help with heat.
bill1024 The i7-3930k 4930k (E5-1650 1650v2 xeons) hexcores overclock very well. I bought the xeons as low as 75$ server pulls. They are very good at BOINC and have 40 PCIE lanes for multiple GPU set ups.
bill, thanks for all the great information.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/21 16:15:03
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Good day today, I do some wood turning and recieved second place in our club show and tell intermediate division out of about 10 entries. This is the second piece I have gotten in our display cabinet at the community center that we have our monthly meeting at. Edit - it is Flamed Box elder, and the knob on top is Red Heart. about 6" diameter.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/21 16:23:10
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polarbeardj Good day today, I do some wood turning and recieved second place in our club show and tell intermediate division out of about 10 entries. This is the second piece I have gotten in our display cabinet at the community center that we have our monthly meeting at.
Nice wood working skills and congratulations on your 2nd place!
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/21 17:30:06
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polarbeardj Good day today, I do some wood turning and recieved second place in our club show and tell intermediate division out of about 10 entries. This is the second piece I have gotten in our display cabinet at the community center that we have our monthly meeting at.
Nice wood working skills and congratulations on your 2nd place!
I agree! It looks like a really nice piece.
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Re: Crunching Team general open ended discussions
2017/10/21 17:30:45
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Congratulations, very nice work, spalted wood looks so good. I make knife handles for my pocket knives, about as far as I go.
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