Scarlet-Tech
You shouldn't even load GeForce experience, and you Definitely should not use it to optimize a game.

GeForce experience can save a configuration file in your game that will always cause issues after you optimize it. If you really care about your games, you will optimize them yourself, so they are actually optimized, not statistically optimized according to a pool of cards.

Scarlet-Tech
You shouldn't even load GeForce experience, and you Definitely should not use it to optimize a game.

GeForce experience can save a configuration file in your game that will always cause issues after you optimize it. If you really care about your games, you will optimize them yourself, so they are actually optimized, not statistically optimized according to a pool of cards.

acezgutter
Uh...you guys should see what's going on over at Geforce.com's forums... seriously.
There will be no fix by nvidia. They claim the card is as intended and that they didn't lie to us, they just forgot to change some tech specs.
 

misiak
 
"They just forgot" ? Are you kidding ? You buy car with max speed 300km/h car and they just forgot to say that you can't go more than 250km/h otherwise if you do you car slow down to 50km/h. Omg people, use brain. This is a PR bull**** only to shut our month up and to avoid law suit. They don't know what to say. They lied and they knew about it. You want tell me tat none of 970 engineers noticed bad memory specification in tons of reviews all over the web ? Oh c'mooon...

misiak So we were cheated, that's the fact. I wanted card with full speed through all memory blocks.

Fennicillin

misiak So we were cheated, that's the fact. I wanted card with full speed through all memory blocks.

You wouldn't have known any different if someone hadn't told you. "I tried to play a bad port at 4K on hardware that isn't ready for it and it's playing badly! Time to make an account on every graphics card vendor and complain!"

Scarlet-Tech
The issue that is causing me to get confused still, and just because I see it with my cards... When I play games on a 3gb card, when 3gb is hit, I go from 70-90fps down to 10-20 and unplayable delays. With the 970's, you are going from 70-90 down to 30s and 40s with stutter.

That is what kills me. You are getting twice the performance over a flagship card when the limits are hit. That is a good start if you ask me.


Again: I do not agree with what nvidia has done. I think it was a stupid idea and action on their part. But, your slower vram is working much better than my nonexistent vram.

ty_ger07

Rigbuilder12
Your better off if your card doesn't try to access that 2nd .5GB pool, this is when your low fps spike would occur. Honestly if I were Nvidia, I would release a new Bios closing off that 2nd pool from EVER being accessed by the card, you do not need more than 3GB Vram for any game@ 1080, the 970GTX is not meant to play games at any other resolution. The 980GTX is a 1440 card, you will need 2 of them if you want to game @ 4k resolution. If you think otherwise, you need to re-educate yourself.

You are better off how? You are better off filling the GPU memory and then saturating the PCI-E bus with requests to the slower system memory for the additional needed memory? No. You are NOT better off without that last 0.5 GB. When needed, that last 0.5 GB is much better than system memory access over PCI-E. The last 0.5 GB is only used when absolutely necessary and is still way better than reverting to system memory in its absence. Cut that last 0.5 GB off your card and prove it! ;)