https://www.techpowerup.com/234731/amd-radeon-vega-frontier-edition-launched-starting-at-usd-999
 
I posted an earlier story about the Vega Frontier Edition launch but now there is far better news. It appears that AMD is going to launch this item at 999 dollars or about 200 dollars less than the estimated release price. This is going to give professionals a far better financial incentive to use this AMD Vega card as opposed to NVIDIA's professional cards which cost far more. 

No offense (AMD), but there will be no change. It will be - as always -, louder, hother and slower than the competition.

- I think it is to early to say that, but I'm confident now I made a good purchase last week.
For Vega and AMD, I think it's a strange start, hours ago they deleted a bench on reddit. And I wonder too why no social media guys like Jay or others got their sample allready...
 
Edit: Besides from that, the card - the features - sounds interesting, but I wonder if AMD will really deliver what they promise, or is it just some marketing?

Scarlet-Tech

Carbonshape
- I think it is to early to say that, but I'm confident now I made a good purchase last week.
For Vega and AMD, I think it's a strange start, hours ago they deleted a bench on reddit. And I wonder too why no social media guys like Jay or others got their sample allready...

Probably because these aren't "gaming" cards.. judt like nvidia not sending out Nvidia Titan X(P) and Titan Xp.

Maybe, but from my view I think AMD needs all the feedback (press) they can get.
 
Edit: Generally, I appreciate competition. But I have my doubts about performance. Probably, it will be as always (with the RX), there will be games that run better with AMD and there will be the opposite of it. No novum. + The bench says nothing.

Sounds like adventure!
 

 
No [...] aftermarket-coolers. Yeah, AMD!
 
Edit:...

Sajin, the bench you see is nothing. The real parameters will be out in a few days or weeks...
 
I really like the design of the Frontiers, but Nvidia is less stress.

Xavier Zepherious

PC Perspective Radeon Vega Frontier Edition Live Benchmarking - 4:30PM CDT

Update - 7:46pm: "So far, compared to the GTX 1080, it is slightly slower to even." - Ryan Shrout

AMD users will say that this isn't comparable to a 1080 because it isn't the gaming version.. just wait for the gaming version...

I still don't see how people can constantly look at things from that perspective. To me, if the Titan Xp performed the same as the 1080 in games, then I could understand them attempting to justify this thought process, but it is really confusing how they always try to make it sound better than it is.

Is the production on the Ryzen better than the Titan Xp? I am at work, so haven't had a chance to research properly. I am interested in all of the comparison for the targeted market for the AMD side versus the Titan Xp.

The Performance Story
From a gaming standpoint, the performance of the Radeon Vega Frontier Edition did not light the stage on fire. In general, our game benchmarks put the Vega FE somewhere between the GeForce GTX 1070 and the GTX 1080. If the RX Vega product ships with similar performance levels then it would compete in the $400-500 price market, lower than I think many of us had predicted performance to fall. There is still potential that AMD will be able to find some additional performance in the product before the consumer launch, either in drivers and efficiency improvements, higher clocks, or maybe better binning. At most, I could see AMD adding another 10% to the results we see with an odd case of a significantly under-developed part of the driver stack going beyond that.
 
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-16GB-Air-Cooled-Review 
 
 
there is no TBR or Tile base rasterizer right now
 
honestly what im hearing it's not good
take a gander of 3dcenter.org Forums on vega - talk is TBR has an issue - no simple fix coming either anytime soon
talk is  it's related to the loss of R&D engineers on the GPU side when Rory was there...and something was not caught or fixed - "but hey!!! it could be a bogus issue" 
raj was not there for Vega initial design- he's navi
 
could be if navi is based on vega we could even have a push back on timeline for navi now 

It kind of looks like an AMD Radeon Belly Flop Edition...

I wanted AMD to impress and have a great product but it seems like it was to much to ask for. I wonder though how much of it is based on the way games are made though and if in the future games could be optimized to run better on the AMD cards.

Xavier Zepherious
looks like the gaming card pushed back again - not at  SIGGRAPH
either we have HBM2 yields issues or  hardware issues/software issues or combination of all 3

Or... "oh my God, people are mad we overhyped another card, and it didn't deliver anything like we promised... no point in losing another round, delay it again".. lol. Ok, maybe not, but seriously... AMD obviously leaked some pretty big tests showing performance equal to or greater than the Titan xp... and can not deliver a strong competitor against a 1080.. at a 300w requirement... they are legitimately shooting themself in the foot at this point.

Scarlet-Tech

Xavier Zepherious
looks like the gaming card pushed back again - not at  SIGGRAPH
either we have HBM2 yields issues or  hardware issues/software issues or combination of all 3

Or... "oh my God, people are mad we overhyped another card, and it didn't deliver anything like we promised... no point in losing another round, delay it again".. lol. Ok, maybe not, but seriously... AMD obviously leaked some pretty big tests showing performance equal to or greater than the Titan xp... and can not deliver a strong competitor against a 1080.. at a 300w requirement... they are legitimately shooting themself in the foot at this point.

Bulldozer comes to mind. I remember their early slides showing bulldozer demolishing the Intel extreme chips of the time. Then they continually made the slides show lower and lower performance until it released and it came no where near what they had been claiming.

Thank you for Gamersnexus. Suddenly, AMD was not able to deliver. But the card - the design of it - looks stunning!

In a series of tweets, Radeon RX and AMD employees have confirmed that RTG is launching Radeon RX Vega in about one month at SIGGRAPH. The new tweets do not specifically mention CAPSAICIN, but SIGGRAPH conference in general. CAPSAICIN SIGGRAPH is just a part of SIGGRAPH, so maybe the launch is split, or I’m reading in-between the lines too much?

 
https://videocardz.com/70...-launching-at-siggraph

Carbonshape

rjohnson11
I want to see professional benchmarks before I make an opinion.

What would you call a professional benchmark?

People that use it specifically for production. Those that use this in a professional manner