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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2020/12/19 14:01:49 (permalink)
Yes, there is clearly an issue here. Quick search found a lot more posts with same issue.
 
https://forums.evga.com/E...an-Issue-m3181781.aspx
https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-3080-FTW3-Ultra-Unstable-Fan-RPM-No-Solution-m3177411.aspx
 
@EVGA_JacobF We need your help here. I am not confident in support helping here.
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2020/12/19 14:06:13 (permalink)
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Yes, I have ultra model.




This could mean that the ultra models and hybrid kits are not supported with current firmware and software! We solved it dude! Maybe. Idk. Someone needs to verify that they used an Ultra model.


I'm also on an Ultra
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2020/12/31 02:45:43 (permalink)
I have a same problem except that I have 3090 ftw3 ultra. Once I flashed hybrid OC bios, fan rpm spikes up like crazy for a second or two while playing games no matter how I set a fan curve in precision x. I tried flashing XOC hybrid bios too, and even reverted back to air cooler bios by nvflash, but it still shows same odd behavior. Now I'm just left with no other option but to wait for them to fix it.... 
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2020/12/31 20:38:36 (permalink)
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Yeah those Hybrid bioses Jacob posted are great (LEDs work properly, fans show 2 instead of 3), but the fans are really not good.  It looks like the OC bios fan speeds are set to a minimum 40%, and the normal bios won't allow fan 1 to go below 20%.  I reverted back to the aircooled bios and can set my fans the way I like again.
 
Btw, last time I tried plugging all four radiator fans (Noctuas) into the hybrid fan header pigtail and they were locked at 1500rpm.




Once you flash the hybrid bios, you have to also run the latest version of Precision x, that will updated the MC firmware (fans, leds etc). Once I did that, my fans behave correctly.
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/02 08:31:57 (permalink)
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Yeah those Hybrid bioses Jacob posted are great (LEDs work properly, fans show 2 instead of 3), but the fans are really not good.  It looks like the OC bios fan speeds are set to a minimum 40%, and the normal bios won't allow fan 1 to go below 20%.  I reverted back to the aircooled bios and can set my fans the way I like again.
 
Btw, last time I tried plugging all four radiator fans (Noctuas) into the hybrid fan header pigtail and they were locked at 1500rpm.




Once you flash the hybrid bios, you have to also run the latest version of Precision x, that will updated the MC firmware (fans, leds etc). Once I did that, my fans behave correctly.




Not the case here. All up to date, nothing changed. 
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/02 10:31:48 (permalink)
FTW3 Ultra hybrid conversion here - same problem with the fans.  It almost seems load related, it's not just spikes - it's also sags in rpm.  If the card is not pushed to it's limit it's no problem.  I tried the fans that came with the kit -  some deepcool rf120s  and corsair ml pro 120s.  The deepcool fans have a much lower current rating printed on the back - it seemed to help and it was much quieter.  The corsairs were not any better than the ones that came with the kit (as far as rpm hunting) - since it seemed load related, I decided to run the fans off a hub and use the mainboard to control the rpm.  I just set the rpm as fast as it would go while still sounding good and I'm done for now.  The performance with the hybrid bios.. I think it's fine.  I tried with both the air and hybrid versions and see no difference.  That said - the fan hunting is insane off the pigtails from the card. I was searching for someone saying this when I first got my kit.   Also the stock fans... the whine from them is horrible. (imo)  Attached are links (edited to post) of 3dmark benches on hwbot - hybrid bios.  I'm still happy - getting that hot air out of my case, finally!
 
3dmark.com/spy/16926448
3dmark.com/pr/691280
post edited by icebearace - 2021/01/02 10:37:07
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/02 14:48:49 (permalink)
FTW3 Ultra conversion here.

Fans are not always behaving properly. Flashed both normal and OC hybrid BIOS exactly as instructed. Installed PX1 (v1.1.4) and did the microcontroller update. Not using anything other than supplied EVGA fans.
 
The fan speeds get really sketchy when under heavy load while gaming in VR and regular flat-screen. It's not immediately reproducible but seems to happen after a certain period of time as the card gets "heat soaked" and stressed.
As others have described, the fans spike from their setpoint, up to 100% and back again, very quickly.
 
It was fine before the Hybrid conversion, using PX1 (v1.1.1).
Looking forward to a stable update.
 
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/03 08:58:19 (permalink)
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Here is the BIOS updates to turn the card into a HYBRID. Each .zip includes 2 files. One for Normal BIOS and one for OC BIOS. Only install this update if the HYBRID kit is installed.
 
3080 FTW3 HYBRID Kit BIOS =
3090 FTW3 HYBRID Kit BIOS =
 




How do I know if my 3090FTW3 Ultra is properly converted to Hybrid Bios? When I initially launched Precision X it didn't say Hybrid after it updated firmware and doesn't say it now after updating Bios. Will Precision X auto update my GPU firmware? 
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/03 14:58:02 (permalink)
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Here is the BIOS updates to turn the card into a HYBRID. Each .zip includes 2 files. One for Normal BIOS and one for OC BIOS. Only install this update if the HYBRID kit is installed.
 
3080 FTW3 HYBRID Kit BIOS =
3090 FTW3 HYBRID Kit BIOS =
 




How do I know if my 3090FTW3 Ultra is properly converted to Hybrid Bios? When I initially launched Precision X it didn't say Hybrid after it updated firmware and doesn't say it now after updating Bios. Will Precision X auto update my GPU firmware? 


Did you restart your pc after the flash?
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/03 16:36:41 (permalink)
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Here is the BIOS updates to turn the card into a HYBRID. Each .zip includes 2 files. One for Normal BIOS and one for OC BIOS. Only install this update if the HYBRID kit is installed.
 
3080 FTW3 HYBRID Kit BIOS =
3090 FTW3 HYBRID Kit BIOS =
 




How do I know if my 3090FTW3 Ultra is properly converted to Hybrid Bios? When I initially launched Precision X it didn't say Hybrid after it updated firmware and doesn't say it now after updating Bios. Will Precision X auto update my GPU firmware? 


Did you restart your pc after the flash?




Yes, many times. 
I installed the Hybrid Kit last week for my 3090FTW3. The moment I launched Px it said there is a firmware update. After updating it still said gpu is a FTW3 ULTRA and showed me the stats of the 3 fans. 2 on rad, 1 in shroud. Today after finding this post I manually updated GPU Bios with link above. Restarted. Says the same thing but now only shows me the stats of 2 fans. 
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/05 14:17:34 (permalink)
I am a 3090 FTW3 Convert to Hybrid. My FAN 1 in precision also randomly spikes to up to 3k regardless of fan settings/curve.
Really need some updates here on the problem. Using latest PX1 with firmware updated.
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/05 15:50:01 (permalink)
I've converted my 3090 to a hybrid too, but my issue is that Fan 1 (rad fans) has a minimum speed of 44% and Fan 2 on the card has a min speed of 40% irrespective of fan profile chosen, and even at idle. At those speeds, the card is much louder than when it was air cooled! It completely defeats the point of water cooling the card if it's louder. Performance is 0.9% faster, despite better temps.
 
Does anyone else have this? This is with the Hybrid XOC BIOS. When I switch back to the normal (Hybrid) BIOS, fan speeds can go lower, but still seem artificially high for the rad fans which are at 30% when idle.
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/05 21:52:23 (permalink)
This is normal to me and I don't think it's a problem with regards to FAN speeds. What's driving me nuts is the reving up and down of FANs at 3000 RPM.
Anyone else having this issue and a solution? I have half the mind to just connect the fans to my motherboard and let it control the speed. That should prevent the revving but I'd like to know if it's a hardware problem with the Kit or the card that's causing this. Seems more like a software/firmware issue.
 
 
jadcampbell
I've converted my 3090 to a hybrid too, but my issue is that Fan 1 (rad fans) has a minimum speed of 44% and Fan 2 on the card has a min speed of 40% irrespective of fan profile chosen, and even at idle. At those speeds, the card is much louder than when it was air cooled! It completely defeats the point of water cooling the card if it's louder. Performance is 0.9% faster, despite better temps.
 
Does anyone else have this? This is with the Hybrid XOC BIOS. When I switch back to the normal (Hybrid) BIOS, fan speeds can go lower, but still seem artificially high for the rad fans which are at 30% when idle.




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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/05 23:19:18 (permalink)
Today, when I turned on my PC. Px immediately wanted to do a firmware update. Now it says Gforce RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid. So at least the gpu now knows its a hybrid. But for whatever reason it broke Nvidia Broadcast. According to Broadcast I don't has the latest drivers (450 onward). Even though according to Gforce Experience I am on latest drivers (460.82 i believe). Not sure what is going on. Will report back if I find anything new/fix. 
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/06 01:51:50 (permalink)
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This is normal to me and I don't think it's a problem with regards to FAN speeds. What's driving me nuts is the reving up and down of FANs at 3000 RPM.
Anyone else having this issue and a solution? I have half the mind to just connect the fans to my motherboard and let it control the speed. That should prevent the revving but I'd like to know if it's a hardware problem with the Kit or the card that's causing this. Seems more like a software/firmware issue.
 
jadcampbell
I've converted my 3090 to a hybrid too, but my issue is that Fan 1 (rad fans) has a minimum speed of 44% and Fan 2 on the card has a min speed of 40% irrespective of fan profile chosen, and even at idle. At those speeds, the card is much louder than when it was air cooled! It completely defeats the point of water cooling the card if it's louder. Performance is 0.9% faster, despite better temps.
 
Does anyone else have this? This is with the Hybrid XOC BIOS. When I switch back to the normal (Hybrid) BIOS, fan speeds can go lower, but still seem artificially high for the rad fans which are at 30% when idle.





No revving for me, thankfully, that sounds even worse.
 
The fan speed is an issue in terms of noise level at idle though - it's way too noisy when I'm using the PC for work and the card should be effectively silent when under 30 degrees GPU temp. IT was when air cooled. 
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/06 05:11:43 (permalink)
Well, it might not have done it earlier but it's doing it now and it sucks. Add me to the list of people to the list. At least when it was air cooled it was the same volume all the time. This is really distracting.
 
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/06 05:33:29 (permalink)
For your fan spinning case, make sure your switch is not in OC bios and using normal bios. OC bios have fans always spinning. Please check that. In normal bios my VRM fan does not spin at all.
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/06 07:49:06 (permalink)
At least I'm not the only one experiencing this issue. I had a ticket open with EVGA. Their suggestion was to reapply TIM to the GPU, ensuring that the whole die is covered. I've done that but the fan 1 was still going wild with spikes to 100% and back down while the card is under heavy load.
 
I ended up removing the fans from the pigtails and plugged them directly into my corsair H150i commander core. Set a fan curve that's controlled by GPU temp and no more issues with the fan spikes. The weird part? You can still see fan 1 spiking in precision and GPU-Z while card is under load even though there aren't any fans connected to it...
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/06 08:01:26 (permalink)
I will probably do the same and plug them into my motherboard to control the fans if this goes on.
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/06 12:01:41 (permalink)
Just came to say I also have the same issue here after installing the hybrid kit on my 3090. Radiator fan's constantly revving up super loud and then going back down when playing games. PX1 showed them at 17,000 RPM once which I don't even know if that's actually possible? This is probably the loudest hybrid kit I've ever owned.
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/06 12:10:17 (permalink)
Damn.. this is a very discouraging thread. I was just about to order a hybrid kit for my FTW3 Ultra...
 
Going to wait a bit and see if these issues are resolved.
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/06 12:19:43 (permalink)
Anyone have positive experiences to share with the hybrid kit?
 
Is it possible these issues are just from people not installing bios and using precision x1?
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/06 13:10:21 (permalink)
The hybrid kit is great otherwise. My temps are fantastic on a push/pull setup with Noctua AF12x25s. GPU temp hovers around 50c after a few hours of gaming with clocks hitting 2100 and staying there the entire session. This wasn't possible on air.
 
 
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/06 13:13:11 (permalink)
I wish EVGA could update us on what's wrong and causing this. Even acknowledging that this is being looked into or telling us what is causing it would seriously be a big help.
I've already lodged a support ticket, hope they respond and not ask me to RMA the card cause it was so hard to put together and I was not provided and spare thermal pads to be able to remove/reapply the hybrid kit if needed.
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/06 16:12:55 (permalink)
Coming back to this.  Same as altra with the spikes showing... - even though as mentioned earlier, I gave up on using the graphics card to power the fans.  (there is nothing plugged into the pigtails for fan 1)  I see the spikes in gpu-z and in precision x1 - with nothing connected.  It's no wonder there are issues with that output.  I am running the XOC bios - (after flashing the regular hybrid bios)  
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/08 09:21:53 (permalink)
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Anyone have positive experiences to share with the hybrid kit?
 
Is it possible these issues are just from people not installing bios and using precision x1?




I did both of those things. I've tested with and without the XOC BIOS. This is definitely a problem with the kit. It's annoying, but it hopefully is just a minor software update away from being fixed. I wouldn't let it stop you buying one if you want it - I'm sure they'll come through with a fix soon. 
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/08 13:17:11 (permalink)
I would like to think so but my reply from customer service asked me to send them screenshots of PX1 and GPUZ showing this error. It is concerning to me that it seems they are not aware of such issues.
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/09 11:44:05 (permalink)
Same issue here.I just installed my 3080 FTW3 kit and flashed the BIOS.
This is really annoying.
Max 30000000RPM ****.

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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/10 09:26:19 (permalink)
Just wanted to add my name to this issue, JUST converted my FTW3 Ultra 3090 yesterday and it's been doing the revving up. I can reproduce it every time at the Overwatch login window. As soon as I login and it takes me to the main menu it goes away.
 
I have tried it with PX1, MSI Afterburner and no GPU software at all, it always does it.
 
PX1 recognizes my card is a Ultra Hybrid, so I flashed my BIOS correctly as well.
post edited by BTCyanide - 2021/01/10 09:50:06
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Re: 3080 ftw3 hybrid kit fans spin up to 3000 rpm 2021/01/10 14:22:42 (permalink)
Seems like the community really need an official evga response to this issue..
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