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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 15:06:42 (permalink)
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The only air-cooled BIOS I have is for the XC3 Ultra.  While I don't expect issues if your flashed that to an XC3 card, I'm also going to play devil's advocate here and suggest that you wait for our team to provide a BIOS specifically for the XC3 cards.  Assuming the general trend follows, the card will pull more power and be able to also hit higher clocks, which might be a bit out of the XC3's range.  Maybe not.  But I'd rather you wait until our team at least confirms to me that there will be a BIOS for each card.

Any insight as to whether or not validated FTW3 HC BIOS will be released?


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 15:13:01 (permalink)
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The only air-cooled BIOS I have is for the XC3 Ultra.  While I don't expect issues if your flashed that to an XC3 card, I'm also going to play devil's advocate here and suggest that you wait for our team to provide a BIOS specifically for the XC3 cards.  Assuming the general trend follows, the card will pull more power and be able to also hit higher clocks, which might be a bit out of the XC3's range.  Maybe not.  But I'd rather you wait until our team at least confirms to me that there will be a BIOS for each card.

Any insight as to whether or not validated FTW3 HC BIOS will be released?

e-mail 3090OC@evga.com for that. I bet you'll get it quicker. Or... Just flash the techpowerup one 
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 15:27:03 (permalink)
If more test subjects are required - my 3080Ti XC3 HC is still available... Otherwise, I guess I'll wait when it gets public release (if ever).
I really need a little higher GPU score to beat some guy in Time Spy Extreme... :P
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 16:48:13 (permalink)
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The only air-cooled BIOS I have is for the XC3 Ultra.  While I don't expect issues if your flashed that to an XC3 card, I'm also going to play devil's advocate here and suggest that you wait for our team to provide a BIOS specifically for the XC3 cards.  Assuming the general trend follows, the card will pull more power and be able to also hit higher clocks, which might be a bit out of the XC3's range.  Maybe not.  But I'd rather you wait until our team at least confirms to me that there will be a BIOS for each card.

Any insight as to whether or not validated FTW3 HC BIOS will be released?

e-mail 3090OC@evga.com for that. I bet you'll get it quicker. Or... Just flash the techpowerup one 

I thought that e-mail address was for 3090 BIOS only. Also, I’ve never used invalidated BIOS, but I know that TechPowerUp is pretty well known. I just don’t want to start having problems where none exist currently is all it boils down to. Then again, I suppose I could try the one you linked on one of my cards BIOS.
post edited by ObscureEmpyre - 2021/08/03 16:49:31


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 17:11:50 (permalink)
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The only air-cooled BIOS I have is for the XC3 Ultra.  While I don't expect issues if your flashed that to an XC3 card, I'm also going to play devil's advocate here and suggest that you wait for our team to provide a BIOS specifically for the XC3 cards.  Assuming the general trend follows, the card will pull more power and be able to also hit higher clocks, which might be a bit out of the XC3's range.  Maybe not.  But I'd rather you wait until our team at least confirms to me that there will be a BIOS for each card.

Any insight as to whether or not validated FTW3 HC BIOS will be released?

e-mail 3090OC@evga.com for that. I bet you'll get it quicker. Or... Just flash the techpowerup one 

I thought that e-mail address was for 3090 BIOS only. Also, I’ve never used invalidated BIOS, but I know that TechPowerUp is pretty well known. I just don’t want to start having problems where none exist currently is all it boils down to. Then again, I suppose I could try the one you linked on one of my cards BIOS.



It's a risk I have taken time and time again in the past and never had issues, but YMMV. Also, when I wanted the Hybrid Bios for my conversion, I had to e-mail 3090OC, which I thought was weird but sounds like the team handles BIOses also. 
 
But anyways, I used the unverified to flash my 3080 FTW3 and then the official one came out and it literally just flashed the same bios over again lol. 
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 17:49:41 (permalink)
So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 17:51:43 (permalink)
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So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.




Great news for those with those cards. Any hope for similar changes to the Onsemi non-ti 3080 FTW's with the same issue?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 17:58:47 (permalink)
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So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.


Oh that's good to know 😄 can't wait for it and see how much more I can get out of the card in the Witcher 3
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 18:07:54 (permalink)
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So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.




That's amazing news. Thanks you for the update Leem and thanks to the EVGA dev team as well for fixing this issue.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 18:28:51 (permalink)
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So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.

Wasn’t there supposed to be a 3080 Ti BIOS update for the display port 1.4 problem with PX1 1.2.3?


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 18:31:47 (permalink)
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EVGATech_LeeM
So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.

Wasn’t there supposed to be a 3080 Ti BIOS update for the display port 1.4 problem with PX1 1.2.3?

This is already available through PX1 in the method I described above.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 18:48:10 (permalink)
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So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.




 
That is awesome news!  Thank you!

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 19:44:23 (permalink)
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So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.


I know I gave you and EVGA a hard time on this. It's very much appreciated that you addressed this issue, the integrity of EVGA stood tall again.
 
Thank you Lee and EVGA.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 20:08:37 (permalink)
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So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.


Does this include any tweaks for the FTW3 version?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 20:22:24 (permalink)
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So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.

Wasn’t there supposed to be a 3080 Ti BIOS update for the display port 1.4 problem with PX1 1.2.3?

This is already available through PX1 in the method I described above.

I ask because my 3080 Ti FTW3 didn’t update when I installed PX1 1.2.3 days ago when the version was released.


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 21:09:56 (permalink)
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So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.


Great to hear! Thank you for your work on this. Looking forward to updating my card with this bios when the time comes.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 23:53:12 (permalink)
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So, the latest update I have is that we will be releasing this BIOS through PX1 for all 3080 Ti XC3 models, including the models that we did not have a beta BIOS to test.  I don't have an ETA however.  When it's available, you'll go into PX1, click the ReBAR option at the top and update your BIOS.




This is really great news to me since today I bought the 3953 model

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/04 00:41:02 (permalink)
The new bios is going to put overclocked 3080 ti xc3 users neck and neck with the 3090 cards... Im within 500pts of most 3090s in Timespy gpu score now.... Cant wait to try this fw out.. 😍
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/04 08:11:58 (permalink)
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The new bios is going to put overclocked 3080 ti xc3 users neck and neck with the 3090 cards... Im within 500pts of most 3090s in Timespy gpu score now.... Cant wait to try this fw out.. 😍

If your card is performing that good, you should leave it alone. This bios puts the 3080 Ti XC3 cards on par with the 3080 Ti FE card at best.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/04 10:45:41 (permalink)
whats your score?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/04 11:58:35 (permalink)
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The new bios is going to put overclocked 3080 ti xc3 users neck and neck with the 3090 cards... Im within 500pts of most 3090s in Timespy gpu score now.... Cant wait to try this fw out.. 😍



 
what is your score?  I have not even tried to overclock mine.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/04 12:08:35 (permalink)
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The new bios is going to put overclocked 3080 ti xc3 users neck and neck with the 3090 cards... Im within 500pts of most 3090s in Timespy gpu score now.... Cant wait to try this fw out.. 😍



 
what is your score?  I have not even tried to overclock mine.

This is good news guys. I'm maybe 1-2 minutes away from a 3080 ti xc3 and was going to totally enter the step up for a ftw if this didn't get fixed.

Now I'm not sure. I'll just keep the xc3ti if this issue is resolved. No need to spend $200-$300 more for nothing.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/04 23:17:49 (permalink)
Amazing news! I also got a brand new 3080Ti XC3 Ultra recently (3955). Looks like I made the right choice after all. EVGA still holds the rep high. I'll post some results once the new bios gets released.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/05 04:40:55 (permalink)
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Amazing news! I also got a brand new 3080Ti XC3 Ultra recently (3955). Looks like I made the right choice after all. EVGA still holds the rep high. I'll post some results once the new bios gets released.


Post some results now so we can see the difference the bios makes.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/05 05:28:22 (permalink)
Couldn't read all 24 pages yet ... but it seemed to be insinuated in the other locked thread that this issue also effects 3070ti xc3 ... was it ever figured out if it does? The bios updates are only for 3080ti right?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/05 07:05:24 (permalink)
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Couldn't read all 24 pages yet ... but it seemed to be insinuated in the other locked thread that this issue also effects 3070ti xc3 ... was it ever figured out if it does? The bios updates are only for 3080ti right?

Pretty sure the new BIOS is intended for the 3080 Ti XC3. Insinuation is just that. Would need a whole new set of tests to see if the 3070 Ti XC3 is affected. Do you have one and, if so, are you experiencing power issues like that of its 3080 Ti counterpart?


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/05 10:17:49 (permalink)
I've been lurking this thread for a while, so happy to hear an update is coming for all 3080 Ti XC3 models. I'm anxiously awaiting the update for my 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra!
 
On another note, is there any chance of an update that would allow cards access to more power if they're not powering fans/leds?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/05 10:27:05 (permalink)
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On another note, is there any chance of an update that would allow cards access to more power if they're not powering fans/leds?



you'll be able to access the full 366W (if PL set to 105%) no matter if you have fans or LEDs or not. My HC card has no fans and LED off and it can pull all of it if I allow it.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/05 10:34:29 (permalink)
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you'll be able to access the full 366W (if PL set to 105%) no matter if you have fans or LEDs or not. My HC card has no fans and LED off and it can pull all of it if I allow it.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/05 12:25:49 (permalink)
Excited to try it out on my Hybrid card!
Thank you EVGA and LeeM
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