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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 14:46:25 (permalink)
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And the demo at the beginning.

Demo has nothing to do with the score, why would you even run it?
 
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Timespy 2 runs
 
Kram beta Bios 2 stock: <--- Newest test added
  • Board Power Draw Average: 350.16W
  • PCI-E Slot: 73.98W
  • Pin 1 Average: 135.92W
  • Pin 2 Average: 140.25W
  • Average Voltage: ??? (GPU-Z log doesn't have voltage readings, maybe using older GPU-Z)
  • Kram's average clocks are at 1810 Mhz at least so that's a good sign

 
I probably had that turned off in GPU-Z?
 

post edited by kram36 - 2021/08/02 14:51:22
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 14:48:06 (permalink)
Just because it’s part of the full run and has more data. I don’t care about the score. Just the data from the telemetry. Which all factor into the stats like average clocks, etc. and more importantly it will actually show comparisons in the compare links rather than showing “N/A” for most of them. I don’t care about the CPU scores or the total score, just to have the compare links actually compare.
post edited by gsrcrxsi - 2021/08/02 14:50:30

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 14:53:46 (permalink)
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Just because it’s part of the full run and has more data. I don’t care about the score. Just the data from the telemetry. Which all factor into the stats like average clocks, etc. and more importantly it will actually show comparisons in the compare links rather than showing “N/A” for most of them. I don’t care about the CPU scores or the total score, just to have the compare links actually compare.

I lined them up, yes the green should be on your Graphics Test 1 instead of on mine.
 

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 14:58:28 (permalink)
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I probably had that turned off in GPU-Z?
 



This is strange. I have many more parameters being logged for my HC. But I haven’t really intentionally messed with any of the logging parameters. Do you have some turned off in the settings? I haven’t ever messed with the settings so I’m just speculating that some are disabled, or there’s something else weird going on.

Do you see voltage displayed in PX1 or AB?

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 15:06:07 (permalink)
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I probably had that turned off in GPU-Z?
 



This is strange. I have many more parameters being logged for my HC. But I haven’t really intentionally messed with any of the logging parameters. Do you have some turned off in the settings? I haven’t ever messed with the settings so I’m just speculating that some are disabled, or there’s something else weird going on.

Do you see voltage displayed in PX1 or AB?

Yes I turn off sensors that I don't care about, like CPU logging. Didn't realize I turned off a sensor reading that was needed.
 
I only used PX1 to turn off the led lights, then put the new beta bios on and used Afterburner 4.6.4 Beta 3 to set my clock speeds which shows mV, if that's what you're talking about, but Afterburner is shut down during the runs.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 15:07:37 (permalink)
 
 
Timespy 2 runs
 
Speedy Stock Bios:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 342.73W
  • PCI-E Slot: 64.69W
  • Pin 1 Average: 137.63W
  • Pin 2 Average: 140.35
  • Average Voltage: 0.897v
  • Average Clocks: 1712 Mhz <--- Added because Kram's voltages are missing
  • Note, speedy's temperatures averaged 80C
 
grxcrxsi Beta Bios 1:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 320.6W
  • PCI-E Slot: 65.5W
  • Pin 1 Average: 129.64W
  • Pin 2 Average: 125.8W
  • Average Voltage: 0.901v
 
grxcrxsi Beta Bios 2:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 359.9W
  • PCI-E Slot: 72.51W
  • Pin 1 Average: 146.46W
  • Pin 2 Average: 140.95W
  • Average Voltage: 0.939v
 
Kram beta Bios 2 stock: <--- Newest test added
  • Board Power Draw Average: 350.16W
  • PCI-E Slot: 73.98W
  • Pin 1 Average: 135.92W
  • Pin 2 Average: 140.25W
  • Average Voltage: ??? (GPU-Z log doesn't have voltage readings, maybe using older GPU-Z)
  • Average Clocks: 1810 Mhz (Compare to Speedy's)
  • Note, Kram's temperatures are 42.61C
 
Koopa MSI Ventus:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 346W
  • PCI-E Slot: 56.91W
  • Pin 1 Average: 149.25W
  • Pin 2 Average: 139.88W
  • Average Voltage: 0.937v
 
 Take note that Kram is water cooled, Speedy is not. So Kram gets bonus boost clocks, for reference see below
 

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 15:10:37 (permalink)
Need me to run the test again with the GPU Voltage sensor turned on?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 15:13:32 (permalink)
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Need me to run the test again with the GPU Voltage sensor turned on?




It would be nice to compare to speedy's run and see if you're sustaining voltages high as our above the Ventus also. It's hard to go off of clocks alone because of bonus temperatures you're getting form watercooling.
 
But your results look good, congratulations. 
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 15:18:41 (permalink)
Edit: One quirk of Beta Bios 2, I had to reinstall my drivers upon restart, I don't know if that's expected, I normally don't flash my Vbios.
 
 
Seems to provide a major boost in power, feels like I finally get all the power from this card.
 
 
Time Spy Stock Clocks- Power, voltage maxed.
Graphics-19015
Power and voltage set by X1
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 9 3950X,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (WI-FI) (3dmark.com)
 
 
GPU-Z log on stock-power draw sitting the 340-50's, PCIe power draw on cable #1 never went over 130w. 
Pcie near or at 70w and pcie #2 at 150w.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NX66b0XsUc6D1L24Q-pcQhLnl4aXZl6S/view?usp=sharing
 
 
 
Timespy Overclock +500 MemClock,+259? core clock @862mv 
Grpahics-20,210
Overclocking done with Afterburner
 
My card still benefits the most from raising the Core frequency at lower voltages, namely between 900-916MV. Memory cannot be clocked beyond +500-550mhz without major losses in performance.
Attempting +1000mhz like Agentnasa resulted in a graphics score in the 17000s which i can share if wanted/needed.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 9 3950X,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (WI-FI) (3dmark.com)
 
 
GpuZ log- PCIe power maxed, a few more volts on Pcie cable #1, #2 doing the same. Power draw now in 350-360's.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TIjIyVFLZ14pTqoZWNNbrqT4W1odNbkH/view?usp=sharing
 
Attached picture of the Core clock curve.
https://i.postimg.cc/Yq3Xvk2b/Screenshot-34.png
 
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Another time spy result
Graphics at 20,327. Just happy I cracked a total score of 19,000, there is a gpu z log, but it is a mess.
 
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 9 3950X,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (WI-FI) (3dmark.com)
 
Overall the bios seems to be an improvement and this is more like what I had expected when I got the card.
 
Comparison of Stock settings, Beta 1 on left Beta 2 on right. Only power and voltage maxed.
 
Result (3dmark.com)
 
 
 
 
Now MORE POWER.
 
 
https://media.giphy.com/m...2EKdL27mEMd/source.mov
 
post edited by Tricerakash - 2021/08/02 15:59:54
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 15:32:37 (permalink)
Let's hope EVGA puts out this second beta bios to everyone who wants it, sounds like it's working perfectly. I would love to test it out.
 
Thanks gsrcrxsi for continuing to pursue this issue.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 15:34:24 (permalink)
Timespy Graphic Test 2 run
 
grxcrxsi Beta Bios 1 (similar to stock, +120 on the core):
  • Board Power Draw Average: 320.6W
  • PCI-E Slot: 65.5W
  • Pin 1 Average: 129.64W
  • Pin 2 Average: 125.8W
  • Average Voltage: 0.901v
 
Speedy Stock Bios:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 342.73W
  • PCI-E Slot: 64.69W
  • Pin 1 Average: 137.63W
  • Pin 2 Average: 140.35
  • Average Voltage: 0.897v
Tricerakash Beta Bios 2:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 350.40
  • PCI-E Slot: 39.9W
  • Pin 1 Average: 127.55W
  • Pin 2 Average: 152.81W
  • Average Voltage: 0.944v
It would be nice if future testers can do a test with their stock bios and then the beta bios so we can compare your cards before and after results. 
 
Edit: Tricerakash and Kram both have average clocks of 1810 Mhz in their timespy graphic test 2. 
post edited by KingEngineRevUp - 2021/08/02 16:03:21
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 15:50:29 (permalink)
For my purposes beta 1 was basically identical to stock. So you can use that as a baseline.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 16:02:57 (permalink)
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For my purposes beta 1 was basically identical to stock. So you can use that as a baseline.



I think the only log I found from your post was +125 on the core but I don't think that would have changed much in terms of what average voltage your card was able to sustain so it can be used as a baseline IMO. Added it to the post above yours. 
 
Edit: Sorry, on mobile. So far so good. It looks like 3 testers so far are having higher clocks and voltages with more power draw. 
post edited by KingEngineRevUp - 2021/08/02 16:04:36
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 16:28:03 (permalink)
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Need me to run the test again with the GPU Voltage sensor turned on?




It would be nice to compare to speedy's run and see if you're sustaining voltages high as our above the Ventus also. It's hard to go off of clocks alone because of bonus temperatures you're getting form watercooling.
 
But your results look good, congratulations. 


Reran the test with the GPU Voltage Sensor on this time lol. I have logs files on all runs, also did the 2nd graphics test only on Time Spy Stock and OC.
 
Time Spy Stock vs OC +150 GPU +1000 Memory vs gsrcrxsi OC.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/21902556/spy/21902714/spy/21898806
 
Port Royal Stock vs OC +150 GPU +1000 Memory vs gsrcrxsi OC.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/1154455/pr/1154471/pr/1154079
 
Have logs files in a zip folder, should be able to download them here.
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9nhxqot0j0n0q6i/logs3.zip?dl=0
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 17:09:31 (permalink)
looking at my own data, 1883MHz average core clock for TS GPU test #2
~50C core temps
post edited by gsrcrxsi - 2021/08/02 17:10:54

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 17:20:36 (permalink)
We are going to need a bios like this for the 3080 Ti XC3 Hybrid cards too.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 17:30:31 (permalink)
Thanks, everyone.  I've sent your results over to our team.
 
 
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 17:35:33 (permalink)
Timespy Graphic Test 2 run 

grxcrxsi Beta Bios 1 (similar to stock, +120 on the core):
  • Board Power Draw Average: 320.6W
  • PCI-E Slot: 65.5W
  • Pin 1 Average: 129.64W
  • Pin 2 Average: 125.8W
  • Average Voltage: 0.901v
 grxcrxsi Beta Bios 2:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 359.9W
  • PCI-E Slot: 72.51W
  • Pin 1 Average: 146.46W
  • Pin 2 Average: 140.95W
  • Average Voltage: 0.939v
Tricerakash Beta Bios 2:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 350.40
  • PCI-E Slot: 69.9W
  • Pin 1 Average: 127.55W
  • Pin 2 Average: 152.81W
  • Average Voltage: 0.944v
Kram Beta Bios 2:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 350.96
  • PCI-E Slot: 73.93W
  • Pin 1 Average: 136.33W
  • Pin 2 Average: 140.67W
  • Average Voltage: 0.960v
 
The beta bios seems to consistently increase the average voltage, the extra power and whatever other tweaks EVGA has done to this bios looks like the fix XC3 users need. I'm assuming if you guys were running fans and AIOs on your card, you would be hitting 366W+ average board power draw? 
 
Looks like a success to me from our three testers here. I might be celebrating early for you all, but congratulations.

Edit: Fixed tricer PCI-E power draw
post edited by KingEngineRevUp - 2021/08/02 17:59:08
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 18:06:43 (permalink)
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Timespy Graphic Test 2 run 

grxcrxsi Beta Bios 1 (similar to stock, +120 on the core):
  • Board Power Draw Average: 320.6W
  • PCI-E Slot: 65.5W
  • Pin 1 Average: 129.64W
  • Pin 2 Average: 125.8W
  • Average Voltage: 0.901v
 grxcrxsi Beta Bios 2:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 359.9W
  • PCI-E Slot: 72.51W
  • Pin 1 Average: 146.46W
  • Pin 2 Average: 140.95W
  • Average Voltage: 0.939v
Tricerakash Beta Bios 2:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 350.40
  • PCI-E Slot: 69.9W
  • Pin 1 Average: 127.55W
  • Pin 2 Average: 152.81W
  • Average Voltage: 0.944v
Kram Beta Bios 2:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 350.96
  • PCI-E Slot: 73.93W
  • Pin 1 Average: 136.33W
  • Pin 2 Average: 140.67W
  • Average Voltage: 0.960v
 
The beta bios seems to consistently increase the average voltage, the extra power and whatever other tweaks EVGA has done to this bios looks like the fix XC3 users need. I'm assuming if you guys were running fans and AIOs on your card, you would be hitting 366W+ average board power draw? 
 
Looks like a success to me from our three testers here. I might be celebrating early for you all, but congratulations.

Edit: Fixed tricer PCI-E power draw

Nice to see things leaning towards the right direction.


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 18:31:35 (permalink)
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Timespy Graphic Test 2 run 

grxcrxsi Beta Bios 1 (similar to stock, +120 on the core):
  • Board Power Draw Average: 320.6W
  • PCI-E Slot: 65.5W
  • Pin 1 Average: 129.64W
  • Pin 2 Average: 125.8W
  • Average Voltage: 0.901v
 grxcrxsi Beta Bios 2:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 359.9W
  • PCI-E Slot: 72.51W
  • Pin 1 Average: 146.46W
  • Pin 2 Average: 140.95W
  • Average Voltage: 0.939v
Tricerakash Beta Bios 2:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 350.40
  • PCI-E Slot: 69.9W
  • Pin 1 Average: 127.55W
  • Pin 2 Average: 152.81W
  • Average Voltage: 0.944v
Kram Beta Bios 2:
  • Board Power Draw Average: 350.96
  • PCI-E Slot: 73.93W
  • Pin 1 Average: 136.33W
  • Pin 2 Average: 140.67W
  • Average Voltage: 0.960v
 
The beta bios seems to consistently increase the average voltage, the extra power and whatever other tweaks EVGA has done to this bios looks like the fix XC3 users need. I'm assuming if you guys were running fans and AIOs on your card, you would be hitting 366W+ average board power draw? 
 
Looks like a success to me from our three testers here. I might be celebrating early for you all, but congratulations.

Edit: Fixed tricer PCI-E power draw

It is good to know the glitch is finally fixed Congrats the efforts of members and EVGA Techs
 
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 19:49:21 (permalink)
This is really exciting to see, I'm glad EVGA was able to figure out a potential problem and a BIOS was able to correct the power behavior. I wonder how much this new BIOS will help cards that were using kinda normal power before? Hopefully we're able to see better behavior where the power limit sits around 350W more often than not for everyone, regardless of previous power behavior.
 
@KingEngineRevUp, thank you for consistently updating various people's results in the last few pages. They're very helpful.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 19:56:38 (permalink)
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Let me throw the "fixed" alternative option away😅:
 


You don't know how many times I felt like that with the Hydro Copper card lol.
 
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This is really exciting to see, I'm glad EVGA was able to figure out a potential problem and a BIOS was able to correct the power behavior. I wonder how much this new BIOS will help cards that were using kinda normal power before? Hopefully we're able to see better behavior where the power limit sits around 350W more often than not for everyone, regardless of previous power behavior.
 
@KingEngineRevUp, thank you for consistently updating various people's results in the last few pages. They're very helpful.


Yep, thanks KingEngineRevUp for compiling the data for us.
 
Still have to check out the other beta bios on my air cooled card that I put a Hybrid kit on. The bios should still work fine with the Hybrid kit, right?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 20:01:01 (permalink)
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Let me throw the "fixed" alternative option away😅:
 


You don't know how many times I felt like that with the Hydro Copper card lol.
 
speedysloth
This is really exciting to see, I'm glad EVGA was able to figure out a potential problem and a BIOS was able to correct the power behavior. I wonder how much this new BIOS will help cards that were using kinda normal power before? Hopefully we're able to see better behavior where the power limit sits around 350W more often than not for everyone, regardless of previous power behavior.
 
@KingEngineRevUp, thank you for consistently updating various people's results in the last few pages. They're very helpful.


Yep, thanks KingEngineRevUp for compiling the data for us.
 
Still have to check out the other beta bios on my air cooled card that I put a Hybrid kit on. The bios should still work fine with the Hybrid kit, right?




I'm anxiously waiting for those results. If the stock XC3 Air bios works then I would guess the beta one should as well, right?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 20:04:47 (permalink)
I would imagine the BOIS will still work, but the RGB and Fan Control might not work optimally. just like anyone else that puts a hybrid kit on their air cooled card and doesnt reflash it to hybrid.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 20:07:09 (permalink)
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I would imagine the BOIS will still work, but the RGB and Fan Control might not work optimally. just like anyone else that puts a hybrid kit on their air cooled card and doesnt reflash it to hybrid.


Have you noticed any instability with the beta bios yet, especially with your production work?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 20:15:12 (permalink)
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I would imagine the BOIS will still work, but the RGB and Fan Control might not work optimally. just like anyone else that puts a hybrid kit on their air cooled card and doesnt reflash it to hybrid.


Have you noticed any instability with the beta bios yet, especially with your production work?


nope. been running all day.
 
after 6hrs of crunching, I dialed it back to 290W though. with the new BIOS and higher core clocks, I was seeing about 3% improvement in crunch times, but at the cost of using 12% more power. so I dialed it back to where it was for better power efficiency.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 20:37:21 (permalink)
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Let me throw the "fixed" alternative option away😅:
 


You don't know how many times I felt like that with the Hydro Copper card lol.
 
speedysloth
This is really exciting to see, I'm glad EVGA was able to figure out a potential problem and a BIOS was able to correct the power behavior. I wonder how much this new BIOS will help cards that were using kinda normal power before? Hopefully we're able to see better behavior where the power limit sits around 350W more often than not for everyone, regardless of previous power behavior.
 
@KingEngineRevUp, thank you for consistently updating various people's results in the last few pages. They're very helpful.


Yep, thanks KingEngineRevUp for compiling the data for us.
 
Still have to check out the other beta bios on my air cooled card that I put a Hybrid kit on. The bios should still work fine with the Hybrid kit, right?
 
 
 


I bet you have . Credit to all around who contributed in making this possible for other customers.
 

gsrcrxsi
I would imagine the BOIS will still work, but the RGB and Fan Control might not work optimally. just like anyone else that puts a hybrid kit on their air cooled card and doesnt reflash it to hybrid.


If I am not mistaken it could work with some minor tweaking. Also, keep in mind the bios will be released to assist those with the issues you guys have, not all have the same issues you guys have encountered.



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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 22:28:59 (permalink)
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gsrcrxsi
I would imagine the BOIS will still work, but the RGB and Fan Control might not work optimally. just like anyone else that puts a hybrid kit on their air cooled card and doesnt reflash it to hybrid.


Have you noticed any instability with the beta bios yet, especially with your production work?


nope. been running all day.
 
after 6hrs of crunching, I dialed it back to 290W though. with the new BIOS and higher core clocks, I was seeing about 3% improvement in crunch times, but at the cost of using 12% more power. so I dialed it back to where it was for better power efficiency.


That's really good to hear. Means that the beta shouldn't be too far from being publicly released. Thanks again for testing it out.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/02 22:49:08 (permalink)
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This is really exciting to see, I'm glad EVGA was able to figure out a potential problem and a BIOS was able to correct the power behavior. I wonder how much this new BIOS will help cards that were using kinda normal power before? Hopefully we're able to see better behavior where the power limit sits around 350W more often than not for everyone, regardless of previous power behavior.
 
@KingEngineRevUp, thank you for consistently updating various people's results in the last few pages. They're very helpful.


No problem, hopefully your fix comes soon.

kram36
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Let me throw the "fixed" alternative option away😅:
 


You don't know how many times I felt like that with the Hydro Copper card lol.
 
speedysloth
This is really exciting to see, I'm glad EVGA was able to figure out a potential problem and a BIOS was able to correct the power behavior. I wonder how much this new BIOS will help cards that were using kinda normal power before? Hopefully we're able to see better behavior where the power limit sits around 350W more often than not for everyone, regardless of previous power behavior.
 
@KingEngineRevUp, thank you for consistently updating various people's results in the last few pages. They're very helpful.


Yep, thanks KingEngineRevUp for compiling the data for us.
 
Still have to check out the other beta bios on my air cooled card that I put a Hybrid kit on. The bios should still work fine with the Hybrid kit, right?


Real happy for you, imagine if we had any other cars like a Zotac, highly doubt they'd work with a bunch of users on a forum to fix their problem.

Thanks EVGA for helping these guys out.
 
Do hydro coppers still have the fan headers active? If not, I imagine you won't have functioning shroud fans, the pump won't pump and the fans won't spin? Not sure. I don't think I've seen anyone flash a hydro copper bios onto a air cooled card. Maybe everything will just spin at 100%?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/03 03:56:45 (permalink)
Yea I'm impressed that EVGA responded so well. Be lucky to get that from any other company.

Would be nice if they would tweak the FTW3 bios to fix this issue with it as well.
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