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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 02:39:47
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New BIOS does do wonders. Max Board Power Draw 370W and averaging around 350W. Results are with overclock and undervolt at 900mV.
Old BIOS:
www.3dmark.com/3dm/64596799?
www.3dmark.com/3dm/64596548?
New BIOS:
www.3dmark.com/3dm/64743327?
www.3dmark.com/3dm/64743604?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 05:21:40
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My card (3080ti XC3 gaming) had no change going to the new BIOS. Same overall power and same benchmarks. Stock settings. I was happy with performance of card, though.
Old BIOS (sustains around 345W)
Time Spy - GPU:18649
Port Royal - GPU:12448
New BIOS 94.02.71.80.BF Update 8/11
Time Spy - GPU:18633
Port Royal - GPU:12460
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 05:54:46
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My card (3080ti XC3 gaming) had no change going to the new BIOS. Same overall power and same benchmarks. Stock settings. I was happy with performance of card, though.
Old BIOS (sustains around 345W)
Time Spy - GPU:18649
Port Royal - GPU:12448
New BIOS 94.02.71.80.BF Update 8/11
Time Spy - GPU:18633
Port Royal - GPU:12460
Since your card was performing well before and was able to operate near its expected power limit, it is no surprise that you didn't see an improvement with the newer BIOS. The newer BIOS is supposed to fix the cards which were not performing well and were not operating near their expected power limit.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 06:02:43
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Since your card was performing well before and was able to operate near its expected power limit, it is no surprise that you didn't see an improvement with the newer BIOS. The newer BIOS is supposed to fix the cards which were not performing well and were not operating near their expected power limit.
Yep, that's why I said I was happy with performance. Just posting my results as point of reference for others looking here. I've seen some people post gains from BIOS even with good performing cards.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 06:54:51
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 07:29:15
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Updating my BIOS dropped performance.
Before: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64647260?
After: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64751427?
I lost about 300 points.
Scores can vary as much as 3% from run to run.
I tested it 3 times before and 3 times after. Pretty much the same results. I thought it might have been a fluke, but the other two post-BIOS update runs showed the same thing.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 07:54:25
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Updating my BIOS dropped performance.
Before: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64647260?
After: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64751427?
I lost about 300 points.
Scores can vary as much as 3% from run to run.
I tested it 3 times before and 3 times after. Pretty much the same results. I thought it might have been a fluke, but the other two post-BIOS update runs showed the same thing.
Are you moving the power slider to the max?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 08:02:29
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I have the evga 3080ti XC3 Ultra Gaming (12G-P5-3955-KR) and flashed the new bios last night. Running Red Dead Redemption II benchmark saw my GPU power draw in HWinfo range between 350-364 watts and GPU running consistently between 1830 - 1905 with only a +65 overclock in Precision X1. I'd say the card is performing as advertised. Very happy.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 08:16:33
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Is it me or MSI's x570 BIOS has no fast boot setting? There is memory fast boot that disables RAM checks during POST but no normal fast boot.
post edited by speedysloth - 2021/08/11 08:19:29
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 08:20:50
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Well seems bios is great news. I hope to get one of these soon. 52 secs out
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 08:31:30
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Updating my BIOS dropped performance.
Before: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64647260?
After: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64751427?
I lost about 300 points.
Scores can vary as much as 3% from run to run.
I tested it 3 times before and 3 times after. Pretty much the same results. I thought it might have been a fluke, but the other two post-BIOS update runs showed the same thing.
Are you moving the power slider to the max?
Yes.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 08:33:10
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Updating my BIOS dropped performance.
Before: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64647260?
After: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64751427?
I lost about 300 points.
Scores can vary as much as 3% from run to run.
I tested it 3 times before and 3 times after. Pretty much the same results. I thought it might have been a fluke, but the other two post-BIOS update runs showed the same thing.
Are you moving the power slider to the max?
Yes.
Could you possibly post a log from gpuz while running timespy?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 08:52:38
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Updating my BIOS dropped performance.
Before: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64647260?
After: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64751427?
I lost about 300 points.
Scores can vary as much as 3% from run to run.
I tested it 3 times before and 3 times after. Pretty much the same results. I thought it might have been a fluke, but the other two post-BIOS update runs showed the same thing.
Are you moving the power slider to the max?
Yes.
Could you possibly post a log from gpuz while running timespy?
Yeah, I can do that. What data do you want? (it's usually easier to just type some of the results out than deal with a screenshot or something)
post edited by Cats4Life - 2021/08/11 08:57:27
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 08:58:42
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Updating my BIOS dropped performance.
Before: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64647260?
After: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64751427?
I lost about 300 points.
Scores can vary as much as 3% from run to run.
I tested it 3 times before and 3 times after. Pretty much the same results. I thought it might have been a fluke, but the other two post-BIOS update runs showed the same thing.
Are you moving the power slider to the max?
Yes.
Could you possibly post a log from gpuz while running timespy?
Yeah, I can do that. What data do you want? (it's usually easier to just type some of the results out)
I want to look at how the voltage, clock speed and power changes throughout the run. It would've been helpful to have a log from before the update but that can't be done now. You can use the following website to host the log file https://www.swisstransfer.com/en
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 09:07:40
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Updating my BIOS dropped performance.
Before: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64647260?
After: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64751427?
I lost about 300 points.
Scores can vary as much as 3% from run to run.
I tested it 3 times before and 3 times after. Pretty much the same results. I thought it might have been a fluke, but the other two post-BIOS update runs showed the same thing.
Are you moving the power slider to the max?
Yes.
Could you possibly post a log from gpuz while running timespy?
Yeah, I can do that. What data do you want? (it's usually easier to just type some of the results out)
I want to look at how the voltage, clock speed and power changes throughout the run. It would've been helpful to have a log from before the update but that can't be done now.
You can use the following website to host the log file
https://www.swisstransfer.com/en
I remember some of the numbers from my earlier post-update run (I think, about 85% sure). Voltage was consistent at 0.93-0.95. Clock speeds seemed fairly consistent too (average freq was around 1785-1800 mhz according to the timespy result page), and temperatures were around 69 deg. Power draw was consistently above 360W.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 09:13:29
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 09:43:17
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 11:25:19
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Did the update and results are very promising: - Stock settings, power maxed out = ~360W at all times. ~300 boost in score compared to before. - Underclock with 1890@850mv = 345-360W, average 350W. Finally cracked 20k graphics score. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22089959
post edited by speedysloth - 2021/08/11 11:43:01
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 11:36:10
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Cats4Life
Updating my BIOS dropped performance.
Before: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64647260?
After: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64751427?
I lost about 300 points.
You're average clocks have gone up. Why your score dropped is due to a margin of variation like Sajin pointed out You would literally have to do 10-20 runs each bios if you wanted some level of control and accuracy and collected the data within a 99% sigma deviation lol. But look at your average clocks, they went up a bin, about 15 MHz which is a sign it's working. You also did the test 3 days apart, windows updates could have occured and I see you're running a different driver from August 8 and August 11?
post edited by KingEngineRevUp - 2021/08/11 11:42:32
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 11:43:35
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Did the update and results are very promising:
- Stock settings, power maxed out = ~360 at all times. ~300 boost in score compared to before.
- Underclock with 1890@850mv = 345-360W, average 350W. Finally cracked 20k graphics score.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22089959
Wow speedy, correct me if I'm wrong but you were already having a decent draw befo the bios update right? And this update just gave you more?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 13:25:55
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speedysloth
Did the update and results are very promising:
- Stock settings, power maxed out = ~360W at all times. ~300 boost in score compared to before.
- Underclock with 1890@850mv = 345-360W, average 350W. Finally cracked 20k graphics score.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22089959
Thanks for sharing your Undervolt settings, they got me to 19542 graphics. www.3dmark.com/spy/22092631 Was that with the power slider maxed?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 15:50:46
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Did the update and results are very promising:
- Stock settings, power maxed out = ~360 at all times. ~300 boost in score compared to before.
- Underclock with 1890@850mv = 345-360W, average 350W. Finally cracked 20k graphics score.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22089959
Wow speedy, correct me if I'm wrong but you were already having a decent draw befo the bios update right? And this update just gave you more?
It definitely did. I was able to hit 350-360W in games/benchmarks before but now the power usage is always 350W+, regardless of what I'm running. I'm getting ~50Mhz higher average clock in timespy. Before: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22055172After: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22090499 Both are with the same undervolt (1890/850mv). The after was boosting up to 1905 at some points during the test despite the undervolt (that never happened before). In games I'm seeing even better results: Plague Tale Innocence -> Before: ~1675Mhz/340W , After: -> ~1760/355W Monster Hunter World -> Before: ~1800Mhz/320W, After: -> 1890Mhz/350W Temperatures are 2-3 degrees higher but that doesn't bother me at all. RangerRobAZ
speedysloth
Did the update and results are very promising:
- Stock settings, power maxed out = ~360W at all times. ~300 boost in score compared to before.
- Underclock with 1890@850mv = 345-360W, average 350W. Finally cracked 20k graphics score.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22089959
Thanks for sharing your Undervolt settings, they got me to 19542 graphics. www.3dmark.com/spy/22092631 Was that with the power slider maxed?
I'm glad I could help. Yes, that was with the power slider + temperature maxed out. 1890@850 is stable for me in stress tests and multiple days of gaming. It should be reachable by most people. It doesn't reduce power draw or temperatures too much but allows my card to boost significantly higher. Just don't change your fan speed, a lot of people do that with undervolts and I wouldn't really recommend that.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 17:13:15
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Anyone interested in booting up the Patron Demo on Steam. 3080ti FTW going full power limit in that game, 1440p 144hz display. Just a quick test in the game but it is sustaining the load, bouncing between 440-450w.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 21:38:52
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Anyone interested in booting up the Patron Demo on Steam.
3080ti FTW going full power limit in that game, 1440p 144hz display.
Just a quick test in the game but it is sustaining the load, bouncing between 440-450w.
You’re in the wrong thread. This is about the XC3, not FTW
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 21:45:02
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DELPHl
Anyone interested in booting up the Patron Demo on Steam.
3080ti FTW going full power limit in that game, 1440p 144hz display.
Just a quick test in the game but it is sustaining the load, bouncing between 440-450w.
You’re in the wrong thread. This is about the XC3, not FTW
Cool, What I am getting at is does it max out the XC3 power limit since it is the same work load. It's free to try.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/11 23:34:19
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Can someone use GPU-Z to send the bios the techpowerup?
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/12 00:36:38
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Can someone use GPU-Z to send the bios the techpowerup?
I just did for the 3953. https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/236371/236371
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/12 06:40:37
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Can someone use GPU-Z to send the bios the techpowerup?
I just did for the 3953.
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/236371/236371
Thanks speedy
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap?
2021/08/12 15:59:17
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I just updated my 3080 TI XC3 - 3953 and has bios now: 94.02.71.80.BF
here are my time spy results, looks better, not huge difference getting about 380 more points then before, I was getting 19005 before, but looks like my Clock is better. I should add I was not having major issue so no complaints, but I don't mind more performance , and this is at stock
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64726626?
Here was my previous results before I upgraded BIOS just to compare
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/21887954
Also tested a quick game and ran benchmark of Red Dead Red Demption 2, getting constant 345 - 347 Watt, where as before I was getting 330, so definitely an improvement and saw 1950 mhz on average as clock speeds
I think it's going to affect everyone differently. Some people were stuck at 280-300W, imagine the clock bins when them accessing 350-366W of power now. But if some of you were already pushing 320-330W, then an extra 15-30W will probably get you a bin (15 Mhz) or two (30 Mhz).
Can i ask you a question, so I changed my power limit in precision to 105 which is the max allowed, and now pulling 365 Watts in timespy, but my score actually went a little lower https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140 Any reason why? I also noticed my clock speed dropped just a bit, not much, and temperature went higher. I guess my question is should I raise my power limit or leave it at 100? It seems like I am getting better performance at 100 vs 105 even though I am now pulling 365 watts? I just assumed with more watts I would see higher perf? Not a complaint and still very happy just trying to understand why and reasoning behind it.
3080 TI XC3, i9-10850K, Noctua NH-D15S, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite, Crucial Ballistix 32 GB Ram DDR4-3200 CL16 , EVGA Supernova G6 1000W 80+ Gold, Windows 10 Pro, LG 27GP83B-B with Dual Dell S2716DG Monitor, 2 TB Crucial MX500 SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case
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