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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/12 16:51:42 (permalink)
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Can i ask you a question, so I changed my power limit in  precision to 105 which is the max allowed, and now pulling 365 Watts in timespy, but my score actually went a little lower
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140 
 
 
Any reason why? I also noticed my clock speed dropped just a bit, not much, and temperature went higher.
 
 
I guess my question is should I raise my power limit or leave it at 100?  It seems like I am getting better performance at 100 vs 105 even though I am now pulling 365 watts?
 
I just assumed with more watts I would see higher perf?
 
 
Not a complaint and still very happy just trying to understand why and reasoning behind it.
 
 


I don't see a score you're trying to compare it to spmits hard for me to say anything besides your average clocks look within range of what it should be.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/12 18:28:11 (permalink)
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Can i ask you a question, so I changed my power limit in  precision to 105 which is the max allowed, and now pulling 365 Watts in timespy, but my score actually went a little lower
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140 
 
 
Any reason why? I also noticed my clock speed dropped just a bit, not much, and temperature went higher.
 
 
I guess my question is should I raise my power limit or leave it at 100?  It seems like I am getting better performance at 100 vs 105 even though I am now pulling 365 watts?
 
I just assumed with more watts I would see higher perf?
 
 
Not a complaint and still very happy just trying to understand why and reasoning behind it.
 
 


I don't see a score you're trying to compare it to spmits hard for me to say anything besides your average clocks look within range of what it should be.

Have to agree with KingEngineRevUp here. A Graphics Score of 19,233 from stock clocks with just the power slider maxed is pretty good.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/12 18:41:52 (permalink)
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Can i ask you a question, so I changed my power limit in  precision to 105 which is the max allowed, and now pulling 365 Watts in timespy, but my score actually went a little lower
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140 
 
 
Any reason why? I also noticed my clock speed dropped just a bit, not much, and temperature went higher.
 
 
I guess my question is should I raise my power limit or leave it at 100?  It seems like I am getting better performance at 100 vs 105 even though I am now pulling 365 watts?
 
I just assumed with more watts I would see higher perf?
 
 
Not a complaint and still very happy just trying to understand why and reasoning behind it.
 
 


I don't see a score you're trying to compare it to spmits hard for me to say anything besides your average clocks look within range of what it should be.



 
 
Here is my score at power 100 - graphic 19385
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64726626 
 
and score with power 105
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140  graphic 19 233
 
 
 
post edited by kongfra - 2021/08/12 18:43:41

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/12 18:52:53 (permalink)
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Here is my score at power 100 - graphic 19385
 
 
 
and score with power 105
 
  graphic 19 233



Hmmm, maybe it's time to update my drivers--would have thought I'd have a better graphics score:
 
. . .and since I can't post URLs, you're gonna have to put make this one: www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/22115415/spy/22070043#
post edited by mistakesweremade - 2021/08/12 18:55:47
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/12 20:38:48 (permalink)
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Can i ask you a question, so I changed my power limit in  precision to 105 which is the max allowed, and now pulling 365 Watts in timespy, but my score actually went a little lower

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140 


Any reason why? I also noticed my clock speed dropped just a bit, not much, and temperature went higher.


I guess my question is should I raise my power limit or leave it at 100?  It seems like I am getting better performance at 100 vs 105 even though I am now pulling 365 watts?

I just assumed with more watts I would see higher perf?


Not a complaint and still very happy just trying to understand why and reasoning behind it.




I don't see a score you're trying to compare it to spmits hard for me to say anything besides your average clocks look within range of what it should be.



 
 
Here is my score at power 100 - graphic 19385
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64726626 
 
and score with power 105
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140  graphic 19 233
 
 
 




Very simple answer. I see right away your temperatures are much cooler in your first score which nets you several bonus boost from the nvidia boost algorithm. For about every 5C you drop your temperature you get an additional 15 Mhz or so. 
 
Run your fans at 100% and redo the test and you'll see what I'm talking about. 
 
 
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/13 06:13:22 (permalink)
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Can i ask you a question, so I changed my power limit in  precision to 105 which is the max allowed, and now pulling 365 Watts in timespy, but my score actually went a little lower

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140 


Any reason why? I also noticed my clock speed dropped just a bit, not much, and temperature went higher.


I guess my question is should I raise my power limit or leave it at 100?  It seems like I am getting better performance at 100 vs 105 even though I am now pulling 365 watts?

I just assumed with more watts I would see higher perf?


Not a complaint and still very happy just trying to understand why and reasoning behind it.




I don't see a score you're trying to compare it to spmits hard for me to say anything besides your average clocks look within range of what it should be.



 
 
Here is my score at power 100 - graphic 19385
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64726626 
 
and score with power 105
 
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/22117140  graphic 19 233
 
 
 




Very simple answer. I see right away your temperatures are much cooler in your first score which nets you several bonus boost from the nvidia boost algorithm. For about every 5C you drop your temperature you get an additional 15 Mhz or so. 
 
Run your fans at 100% and redo the test and you'll see what I'm talking about. 
 
 




 
Wow you right on the money!
 
Now my score jumped only thing I changed was power limit to max, did not even overlock yet and here is my score  - 19 659
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64828635? 
 
 
Edit:  I realized somehow my fan curve control was unchecked not sure how that happened maybe when I upgraded precision X1, so I guess in that one test it was using the default fan curve and could not cool it enough to get the speeds, with my fan curve control on you can see the boost in score
 
Thank you!
 
post edited by kongfra - 2021/08/13 06:15:58

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/14 16:37:04 (permalink)
350w looks like a hard limit imposed by Nvidia instead of AIB for 2x8pin 3080 ti cards. I personally have a 3080 ti xc3 HC and 3090 ftw3 hybrid. 3080 ti can never go above 350w no matter how you slide the max power in after burner

I read multiple threads like in chiphell forum that their 3080 tis cannot draw more than 350w including several Asus tuf 3080 tis.

Ironically the 3 8pin 3080 could draw around 400w 🤣
post edited by liuwh08 - 2021/08/14 16:49:19
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/14 17:10:10 (permalink)
I am not sure where the problem is, Everyone is posting Port Royal in the low to mid 13s out of the box and pulling 350w, 
Wattage is not a score . Its a measure of power consumption.
I got my first 3080 FTW3 Ultra back in November of last year and it pulled 380w it scored 200 less points less than FE tests I saw in the initial reviews... in PR 11282 and hit 81C, with the driver updates an such I got it to 11600 default and 12480 OC pulling 420w
My next card was a 3080 FTW3 Hybrid . With a the OC bios it toped out at 12898 and pulled 448w
Open unlimited power will only pop your card , you have only 2 8pin connectors rated at 150w each, do the math ...
I assure you wattage is not score, I have successfully managed to pull 588w and score 13898 on my KPE
If you are hitting 13200-13600 on 350 watts you ARE WINNING !


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 09:51:04 (permalink)
I received my 3080 TI XC3 Gaming, and I have some questions.
 
1) What tests should I run to see if my card actually come with the power cap?
 
2) What temps do you consider are normal/fine for this card (air cooling one)? Do you recommend me to change thermal pads or something to improve cooling? (not WC)
 
3) Do you guys purchased 3Dmark from Steam (29.99) to run the Time Spy benchmark? Is it worth it? Is it not free anymore?
 
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 10:03:58 (permalink)
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I received my 3080 TI XC3 Gaming, and I have some questions.
 
1) What tests should I run to see if my card actually come with the power cap?
 
2) What temps do you consider are normal/fine for this card (air cooling one)? Do you recommend me to change thermal pads or something to improve cooling? (not WC)
 
3) Do you guys purchased 3Dmark from Steam (29.99) to run the Time Spy benchmark? Is it worth it? Is it not free anymore?
 
Thanks.


Go into your motherboard bios, turn off Fast Boot and CSM. Download and install the latest Precision X1, run it so it will update your card on the first use of PX1. If you don't get an update then go to the Re-Bar section and check to see what bios is on the card. If you have the 12G-P5-3953-KR card the bios number should look like this.
 

 
 EDIT: Time Spy is free to run, you just can't turn off the demo. Download 3DMark from here, you will need an account to download it.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/settings/download/3dmark.zip/
post edited by kram36 - 2021/08/15 10:09:07
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 10:28:09 (permalink)
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Gato84
I received my 3080 TI XC3 Gaming, and I have some questions.
 
1) What tests should I run to see if my card actually come with the power cap?
 
2) What temps do you consider are normal/fine for this card (air cooling one)? Do you recommend me to change thermal pads or something to improve cooling? (not WC)
 
3) Do you guys purchased 3Dmark from Steam (29.99) to run the Time Spy benchmark? Is it worth it? Is it not free anymore?
 
Thanks.


Go into your motherboard bios, turn off Fast Boot and CSM. Download and install the latest Precision X1, run it so it will update your card on the first use of PX1. If you don't get an update then go to the Re-Bar section and check to see what bios is on the card. If you have the 12G-P5-3953-KR card the bios number should look like this.
 

 
 EDIT: Time Spy is free to run, you just can't turn off the demo. Download 3DMark from here, you will need an account to download it.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/settings/download/3dmark.zip/




Thank you so much for the answers kram!!!
 
Yes, I have the 12G-P5-3953-KR card. I have one more question about this card. Is the RGB lightning of this card only for the EVGA logo? Or should I see the lights on for the "GEFORCE RTX 3080 Ti" text too? (because this last part is dark-off) 

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 10:55:34 (permalink)
The Logo is the only light 


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 11:00:23 (permalink)
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 13:53:09 (permalink)
Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).
 
3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?
 
I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 14:41:15 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).
 
3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?
 
I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 14:49:08 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).
 
3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?
 
I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.



It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 14:58:32 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).

3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?

I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.



It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

Use either X1 or AB, and drag the points along the fan curve to where you want them percentage-wise at specified temps. In X1, there are fan options in the lower right window of the main screen. Otherwise, click the right arrow a couple of times until you see the individual fan curves. In AB, go into Settings and in the Fan tab click “Enable user defined software automatic fan control” to adjust the curve there.


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 15:56:19 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).

3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?

I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.



It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

Use either X1 or AB, and drag the points along the fan curve to where you want them percentage-wise at specified temps. In X1, there are fan options in the lower right window of the main screen. Otherwise, click the right arrow a couple of times until you see the individual fan curves. In AB, go into Settings and in the Fan tab click “Enable user defined software automatic fan control” to adjust the curve there.



Thank you for answering. I configured X1 with the preset "Aggressive." The temperature is better now (70º average); however, the score in Time Spy did not improve at all.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64925299?
 
I don't even know if it can be improved or if this score is good enough for this card. If I compare with other scores that I saw in this post, my score is not good. Will the power issue is automatically fixed with the BIOS update on the XC3 cards, or should I perform an additional step "manually"?

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 16:17:27 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).

3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?

I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.



It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

Use either X1 or AB, and drag the points along the fan curve to where you want them percentage-wise at specified temps. In X1, there are fan options in the lower right window of the main screen. Otherwise, click the right arrow a couple of times until you see the individual fan curves. In AB, go into Settings and in the Fan tab click “Enable user defined software automatic fan control” to adjust the curve there.



Thank you for answering. I configured X1 with the preset "Aggressive." The temperature is better now (70º average); however, the score in Time Spy did not improve at all.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64925299?
 
I don't even know if it can be improved or if this score is good enough for this card. If I compare with other scores that I saw in this post, my score is not good. Will the power issue is automatically fixed with the BIOS update on the XC3 cards, or should I perform an additional step "manually"?

I know you said you haven’t overclocked the card, but have you dragged the power slider all the way to the right in either X1 or AB? Just don’t forget to click Apply when you do if you haven’t already adjusted the power slider.
post edited by ObscureEmpyre - 2021/08/15 16:19:21


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 16:55:40 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).

3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?

I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.



It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

Use either X1 or AB, and drag the points along the fan curve to where you want them percentage-wise at specified temps. In X1, there are fan options in the lower right window of the main screen. Otherwise, click the right arrow a couple of times until you see the individual fan curves. In AB, go into Settings and in the Fan tab click “Enable user defined software automatic fan control” to adjust the curve there.



Thank you for answering. I configured X1 with the preset "Aggressive." The temperature is better now (70º average); however, the score in Time Spy did not improve at all.
 
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64925299?
 
I don't even know if it can be improved or if this score is good enough for this card. If I compare with other scores that I saw in this post, my score is not good. Will the power issue is automatically fixed with the BIOS update on the XC3 cards, or should I perform an additional step "manually"?

I know you said you haven’t overclocked the card, but have you dragged the power slider all the way to the right in either X1 or AB? Just don’t forget to click Apply when you do if you haven’t already adjusted the power slider.



In X1, the power slider shows 100. Should I use it as 105 (max)? Is it even safe to modify it to 105? (the GPU temp is automatically moved to 91)

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 17:10:32 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).

3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?

I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.



It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

Use either X1 or AB, and drag the points along the fan curve to where you want them percentage-wise at specified temps. In X1, there are fan options in the lower right window of the main screen. Otherwise, click the right arrow a couple of times until you see the individual fan curves. In AB, go into Settings and in the Fan tab click “Enable user defined software automatic fan control” to adjust the curve there.



Thank you for answering. I configured X1 with the preset "Aggressive." The temperature is better now (70º average); however, the score in Time Spy did not improve at all.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64925299?

I don't even know if it can be improved or if this score is good enough for this card. If I compare with other scores that I saw in this post, my score is not good. Will the power issue is automatically fixed with the BIOS update on the XC3 cards, or should I perform an additional step "manually"?

I know you said you haven’t overclocked the card, but have you dragged the power slider all the way to the right in either X1 or AB? Just don’t forget to click Apply when you do if you haven’t already adjusted the power slider.



In X1, the power slider shows 100. Should I use it as 105 (max)? Is it even safe to modify it to 105? (the GPU temp is automatically moved to 91)

Yes, it’s perfectly safe to do so. The power and temp sliders are locked together unless you unlock them. All it does is allow the card to draw more power which means a bit more heat, so that fan curve you adjusted will work well. You aren’t using any custom BIOS or physically modifying the card, so you’re still operating within the designed power limit since it won’t allow you to go beyond 105%. You’ll notice a small improvement in Time Spy by adjusting the power limit, but you won’t see a huge increase unless you overclock.


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 17:30:43 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).

3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?

I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.



It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

Use either X1 or AB, and drag the points along the fan curve to where you want them percentage-wise at specified temps. In X1, there are fan options in the lower right window of the main screen. Otherwise, click the right arrow a couple of times until you see the individual fan curves. In AB, go into Settings and in the Fan tab click “Enable user defined software automatic fan control” to adjust the curve there.



Thank you for answering. I configured X1 with the preset "Aggressive." The temperature is better now (70º average); however, the score in Time Spy did not improve at all.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64925299?

I don't even know if it can be improved or if this score is good enough for this card. If I compare with other scores that I saw in this post, my score is not good. Will the power issue is automatically fixed with the BIOS update on the XC3 cards, or should I perform an additional step "manually"?

I know you said you haven’t overclocked the card, but have you dragged the power slider all the way to the right in either X1 or AB? Just don’t forget to click Apply when you do if you haven’t already adjusted the power slider.


In X1, the power slider shows 100. Should I use it as 105 (max)? Is it even safe to modify it to 105? (the GPU temp is automatically moved to 91)

Yes, it’s perfectly safe to do so. The power and temp sliders are locked together unless you unlock them. All it does is allow the card to draw more power which means a bit more heat, so that fan curve you adjusted will work well. You aren’t using any custom BIOS or physically modifying the card, so you’re still operating within the designed power limit since it won’t allow you to go beyond 105%. You’ll notice a small improvement in Time Spy by adjusting the power limit, but you won’t see a huge increase unless you overclock.



Ok. Thank you for the help. I have one more question. Would you recommend undervolting to lower the temp (after maxing out the power slider)? Should I use MSI AB to do so? Because I do not know how to do it with X1.

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/15 18:21:23 (permalink)
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Hey guys. I ran the Time Spy test and it seems I have a bad score when compared to others. I also have a high average temperature (79º).

3080 Ti XC3 Gaming (12G-P5-3953-KR)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64922567?

I read that some of you improved temps and numbers by modifying the fan curve. In my X1, the fans are set as Auto. Any recommendations?

Is your card overclocked any? Have you updated the BIOS since the power issues for the XC3 was addressed? Try a more aggressive fan curve.



It is not overclocked. I just installed the card and updated the BIOS to its last version. What fan curve do you recommend? I don't even know where to change the fan curve and how to configure it. X1 or should I install MSI Afterburner?

Use either X1 or AB, and drag the points along the fan curve to where you want them percentage-wise at specified temps. In X1, there are fan options in the lower right window of the main screen. Otherwise, click the right arrow a couple of times until you see the individual fan curves. In AB, go into Settings and in the Fan tab click “Enable user defined software automatic fan control” to adjust the curve there.



Thank you for answering. I configured X1 with the preset "Aggressive." The temperature is better now (70º average); however, the score in Time Spy did not improve at all.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/64925299?

I don't even know if it can be improved or if this score is good enough for this card. If I compare with other scores that I saw in this post, my score is not good. Will the power issue is automatically fixed with the BIOS update on the XC3 cards, or should I perform an additional step "manually"?

I know you said you haven’t overclocked the card, but have you dragged the power slider all the way to the right in either X1 or AB? Just don’t forget to click Apply when you do if you haven’t already adjusted the power slider.


In X1, the power slider shows 100. Should I use it as 105 (max)? Is it even safe to modify it to 105? (the GPU temp is automatically moved to 91)

Yes, it’s perfectly safe to do so. The power and temp sliders are locked together unless you unlock them. All it does is allow the card to draw more power which means a bit more heat, so that fan curve you adjusted will work well. You aren’t using any custom BIOS or physically modifying the card, so you’re still operating within the designed power limit since it won’t allow you to go beyond 105%. You’ll notice a small improvement in Time Spy by adjusting the power limit, but you won’t see a huge increase unless you overclock.



Ok. Thank you for the help. I have one more question. Would you recommend undervolting to lower the temp (after maxing out the power slider)? Should I use MSI AB to do so? Because I do not know how to do it with X1.

Personally, I prefer AB over X1. And, you can try undervolting if you want a more stable clock with maybe a small dip in performance. You probably wouldn’t notice for gaming, but feel free to play around with it. I’d rather overclock than castrate my card though. That’s just my preference.


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/16 09:29:22 (permalink)
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Personally, I prefer AB over X1. And, you can try undervolting if you want a more stable clock with maybe a small dip in performance. You probably wouldn’t notice for gaming, but feel free to play around with it. I’d rather overclock than castrate my card though. That’s just my preference.

Just a reminder that physical damage will void your warranty.  Overclocking, on the other hand, will not.
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/16 11:06:27 (permalink)
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Personally, I prefer AB over X1. And, you can try undervolting if you want a more stable clock with maybe a small dip in performance. You probably wouldn’t notice for gaming, but feel free to play around with it. I’d rather overclock than castrate my card though. That’s just my preference.

Just a reminder that physical damage will void your warranty.  Overclocking, on the other hand, will not.




Sorry, I did not get it what does it means. Which one of the two (undervolting or overclocking) could void my warranty if the GPU get damaged? And which one is safest to perform without voiding my warranty in case something fails?

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/16 12:20:46 (permalink)
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Personally, I prefer AB over X1. And, you can try undervolting if you want a more stable clock with maybe a small dip in performance. You probably wouldn’t notice for gaming, but feel free to play around with it. I’d rather overclock than castrate my card though. That’s just my preference.

Just a reminder that physical damage will void your warranty.  Overclocking, on the other hand, will not.




Sorry, I did not get it what does it means. Which one of the two (undervolting or overclocking) could void my warranty if the GPU get damaged? And which one is safest to perform without voiding my warranty in case something fails?

Neither will void your warranty if you’re using X1 especially, and AB typically has the same features as X1 with regard to overclocking and undervolting. I believe Lee was talking about something like shunt modding which would physically alter your card, potentially damaging it in the process.


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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/16 13:27:09 (permalink)
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Personally, I prefer AB over X1. And, you can try undervolting if you want a more stable clock with maybe a small dip in performance. You probably wouldn’t notice for gaming, but feel free to play around with it. I’d rather overclock than castrate my card though. That’s just my preference.

Just a reminder that physical damage will void your warranty.  Overclocking, on the other hand, will not.




Sorry, I did not get it what does it means. Which one of the two (undervolting or overclocking) could void my warranty if the GPU get damaged? And which one is safest to perform without voiding my warranty in case something fails?

Neither will void your warranty if you’re using X1 especially, and AB typically has the same features as X1 with regard to overclocking and undervolting. I believe Lee was talking about something like shunt modding which would physically alter your card, potentially damaging it in the process.



Ohh Ok. Thank you for the explanation!

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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/16 20:20:00 (permalink)
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I believe Lee was talking about something like shunt modding which would physically alter your card, potentially damaging it in the process.


I think Lee might have been making a joke about "castrating" your card. That would do some physical damage. 
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Re: 3080 Ti XC3 Ultra Hydro Copper, low power consumption, hidden power cap? 2021/08/16 20:35:52 (permalink)
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I believe Lee was talking about something like shunt modding which would physically alter your card, potentially damaging it in the process.


I think Lee might have been making a joke about "castrating" your card. That would do some physical damage. 

Derp!


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